Got the bounce !!!

[Subytuner]

So my dilemma .....

Chaotic Special Lw, crawls great has awesome break over ,pretty good side hill.. But every time I go to bump it over the rear gets a huge bounce but not in a good way also the front seems to be constantly looking for traction ( maybe the surface I am running )

My set up -

XR10
Chaotic Special LW
Chaotic Ti links
Big bores - Doug's cups -mini T pinks - 35 wt oil
Vp DH wheels x4
Vp C's and knuckles
Vp knuckle weights + 1/4" add-ons
No rear weights ( swapped all axle hardware with aluminum)
Rover- whites with CI 2 stage foams ( closed cell inner soft outers )
Hr trans cases f/r
Rc4wd gears
Vp f/r axle top link mounts
Hitec 7950th
Chaotic Ti straight link
Vp rear lock outs
Novak Rock Star motors 45t
Punk dig
Castle bec
FXR esc
Any suggestions on top link placement on the VP f/r axle mounts ?

Thanks everyone

[mindless]

Pics would be very helpful side shots link lengths and mounting points

[WooPigSooie]

What foams are you running in those rovers?

[Subytuner]

Originally Posted by WooPigSooie

What foams are you running in those rovers?

Crawler Inovations 2 stage with soft outers
Closed cell inners and soft memory outers

[WooPigSooie]

Are they the soft outers with memory tuning rings? Or are they full memory outers?

[HARDKNOCKZ]

Originally Posted by Subytuner

Crawler Inovations 2 stage with soft outers
Closed cell inners and soft memory outers

Soft memory outers? Eddie doesn't use memory foam that Im aware of. Are you running soft outers front & rear? Which closed cell inners are you running? That SOUNDS like a foam tuning issue but you can also thicken up your shock oil a little to slow the rebound.

SOME hop is inevitable. Just happens but if its a gnarly hop...ya should be able to tune it out fairly easy.

J.D.

[Jslick]

I have heard of the closed cell inners giving lighter rigs a bit of hop.

[Subytuner]

Originally Posted by HARDKNOCKZ

Soft memory outers? Eddie doesn't use memory foam that Im aware of. Are you running soft outers front & rear? Which closed cell inners are you running? That SOUNDS like a foam tuning issue but you can also thicken up your shock oil a little to slow the rebound.

SOME hop is inevitable. Just happens but if its a gnarly hop...ya should be able to tune it out fairly easy.

J.D.

Sorry... Your right soft outers are not memory foams . I have the double Duce CI foams narrow closed cell inners with the soft outers front and rear

[WooPigSooie]

This may sound strange but I'm going to try and make sense. Put a medium outer in the rear it will reduce the bouncing of the inner due to the increase in resistance of the outer. Since the DH wheels are heavy to begin with you should notice an increase in traction if you put medium outers front and back. This will also decrease the unnecessary tire roll while side hilling.

[WooPigSooie]

Just to put it in perspective you have 34.38oz (2.15lbs) of weight in your wheels and knuckle weights alone.

[slowride1]

run a lil heavier shock oil in the rear as well . i had that prob as well an i went with a softer foam in the tire an heavier oil in the rear shocks.

had the same prob with my switch an did the same thing with it as well an it stoped

[WooPigSooie]

It's funny how different stuff works for different people. I would just try all these great suggestions and see what works for you.

[Subytuner]

Originally Posted by WooPigSooie

It's funny how different stuff works for different people. I would just try all these great suggestions and see what works for you.

True statement ! Looks like I've got some changes to try

[WooPigSooie]

One more thing. Are your wheels or tires vented?

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Drive smoother

[JeremyH]

Originally Posted by HARDKNOCKZ

Soft memory outers? Eddie doesn't use memory foam that Im aware of.

He sells them for the 1.9 single stage an used to sell than as outers for 2.2s..

[Subytuner]

Originally Posted by WooPigSooie

One more thing. Are your wheels or tires vented?

Vented= yes

[Subytuner]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Drive smoother

Not sure smoothness will get you there in every situation , as we all know you do need a little bump up once and a while

[WooPigSooie]

Originally Posted by Subytuner

Vented= yes

I would make sure they are vented enough. It is hard to get the closed cell foams vented. I also noticed a big difference the more i vented.

[Subytuner]

Originally Posted by WooPigSooie

I would make sure they are vented enough. It is hard to get the closed cell foams vented. I also noticed a big difference the more i vented.

A while ago I was having trouble with the closed cell's venting but since then I have vented the tires, plenty of air comes out and goes right back in at the same rate