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Old 02-12-2008, 06:56 PM   #21
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Thats why im asking questions. I had no idea it was illegal
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:25 PM   #22
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No, he's referring to me. I had sold some stickers a while ago. But i had no idea it was illegal. Im not pointing fingers, heck, im pointing fingers at myself. Ill admit it 100%.
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:37 PM   #23
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No, he's referring to me. I had sold some stickers a while ago. But i had no idea it was illegal. Im not pointing fingers, heck, im pointing fingers at myself. Ill admit it 100%.
Ok, my fault. I delete my last post. thought he was questioning me.
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:48 PM   #24
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That is why I asked Jason first if I could put his logo in my paint scheme before I did it.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:43 PM   #25
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It is up to each company to protect their copyrights, I choose to do so, some don't.

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...That guy was competing against Jason with RCC's own product. Jason sells his RCC decals here on the site. And that money helps in many ways to keep the site up and running. So he is taking money from Jason by selling his stickers without permission...
Two very good points.

Large companies often don't even bother going after "the little guy". In the end, it's not worth thier time or money, and in some cases it even helps build thier brand to have people making items using thier name or logo.

And as Xtreme said, selling decals is directly effecting Jason's business. Sure - Toyota may not care that someone is making RC items using thier logos, even if they might not have permission - because in the end, it does not effect Toyota's sales because it is not a competing product. But Jason does indeed sell decals, and someone buying these on eBay takes away from Jason's potential sales.
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Should I ahve gotten an okay before I got rccrawler tatooed on my willie?

After all I sell my body all the time so....
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:56 PM   #27
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Should I ahve gotten an okay before I got rccrawler tatooed on my willie?

After all I sell my body all the time so....
What, you couldnt fit the www. or the .com?
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:57 PM   #28
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Should I ahve gotten an okay before I got rccrawler tatooed on my willie?

After all I sell my body all the time so....
Jason said for the little bit of change you collect that it doesn't matter! It's not the original like his. Just a KNOCK OFF!
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:57 PM   #29
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Should I ahve gotten an okay before I got rccrawler tatooed on my willie?

After all I sell my body all the time so....
That's not really a competitive market, but I'd double check if I were you, just to be sure. Hey - that's free advertising
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What, you couldnt fit the www. or the .com?
Mr. smartie pants!

Honestly all I could get wa rcc...
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Jason said for the little bit of change you collect that it doesn't matter! It's not the original like his. Just a KNOCK OFF!
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That's not really a competitive market, but I'd double check if I were you, just to be sure. Hey - that's free advertising
Not sure if it counts taking the money out one hand and putting it in the other...
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:17 PM   #32
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I think Constantmotion should get some free rccrawler stickers for starting this excellent thread.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:11 PM   #33
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I think Constantmotion should get some free rccrawler stickers for starting this excellent thread.
Good idea! I will contact Mr-Sign-Man from the UK and see if he can hook him up.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:30 PM   #34
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Two very good points.

Large companies often don't even bother going after "the little guy". In the end, it's not worth thier time or money, and in some cases it even helps build thier brand to have people making items using thier name or logo.

And as Xtreme said, selling decals is directly effecting Jason's business. Sure - Toyota may not care that someone is making RC items using thier logos, even if they might not have permission - because in the end, it does not effect Toyota's sales because it is not a competing product. But Jason does indeed sell decals, and someone buying these on eBay takes away from Jason's potential sales.
I don't care how big or small a company is, if you are using copyright material without the permission of the owner of such copyright, you are in the wrong. Even if it is used on a product that does not directly compete with the product sold by the copyright owner. If anyone is using the logo's of larger companies such as Toyota, putting them on their crawler products to sell for profit and not getting permission ahead of time, they are in the wrong. What's interesting is that some of the vendors that are doing this, have copyrights on their own material and I bet would be upset if someone used their copyrighted material without permission.
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This is between RCC and the seller on ebay.

Anything we say...doesn't really matter.

If Jason's lawyer is on it, that's good enough for me.

No need to sit and debate a matter in which we aren't involved.
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This is between RCC and the seller on ebay.

Anything we say...doesn't really matter.

If Jason's lawyer is on it, that's good enough for me.

No need to sit and debate a matter in which we aren't involved.

Nothing wrong with debating the matter. It educates the uniformed.
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Nothing wrong with debating the matter. It educates the uniformed.
It also leads to things getting blown out of proportion.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:23 AM   #38
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It also leads to things getting blown out of proportion.
that would NEVER happen on this board....

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Well he finally got the picture and pulled the auction or ended up selling them.
NOT
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:00 AM   #40
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Funny people think its OK for TCS to sell those rings...I doubt they paid for the licensing rights for those marks. Especially when Tamiya dropping the Chevy Clod grille and RE-TOOLED (a very costly process) to not have to re-license (obviously more costly than re-tooling).

I'd love to be proven wrong, however I'm doubting they went through the proper avenues to pay for licensing of a copyrighted logos.

I also point this out since they have a lot of patent pending products. They likely have legal counsel on patents and trademarks.
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