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RCALLOYS · 09-11-2005, 09:14 PM

Hello all. WELL, finally got some time to go play. Dad came up for dinner this evening and then we loaded up our Willys and headed to the parking lot. First off to establish a baseline, Dad's stock Willy was clocked. He ran a blistering 13mph, not bad for a stock Willy. Then, Brushless Willy came out to play. First run, 6 cell pack and best of 5 runs. With the 6 cell we hit 22mph as a best. Then, add another cell and a fresh 6 cell pack for a 7 cell run. Best of 5 we ran 26mph. Dump those packs and load another fresh 6 cell pack and a custom 2 cell pack for an 8 cell run. Took 8 tries to get the hang of launching this thing BUT it is impressive. Especially for something with a 7.750 wheelbase

Did 5 runs on 8 cells and was able to lock in 28mph on the radar gun. On the last run with this set up Dad says Willy clocked 34mph when he went by. However Dad forgot to let go of the trigger on the gun to lock the speed on the display! Did figure out 8 cells is really good for 600 foot burnouts

Had one very very bad accident on a full throttle run. Cartwheeled probably 8-10 times (very noisy) and splatted up against a chain-link fence. All is ok, only injury was Willy lost his right foot somehow during the impact. What is next you say? Well, time to gear up and stretch the wheelbase some more. Also need to upgrade tires, stock Willy rubbers SUCK. We'll get to 40mph, dunno when but we will

Pics for your enjoyment, sorry no action shots or video. No action shots because Dad can't operate the camera. No video because my computer pooped itself and I am running a 450mhz IBM in the meantime!

JasonInAugusta · 09-11-2005, 09:26 PM

lmao.

Someone did a good job with pics!

(although I think you cheated by locking the high speed and taking a poser shot) ;)

RCALLOYS · 09-11-2005, 09:40 PM

Uh huh, was wondering how long it would take someone to post up saying I cheated because of the poser shot. Of all people, sheesh........you know me better than that Jason. I would never cheat.

If ya want, you can call my Dad tomorrow to get a verification of Willy's speed from him. LOL

Would have been difficult and dangerous to stand behind the radar man, drive Willy and fire off a pic as he went to get the radar gun in the picture. Sucks not having a 'puter that will do video. Once my puter comes back to life we'll do some video footage.

JasonInAugusta · 09-11-2005, 09:47 PM

I was saying you cheated with pics. Didn't take them while Willy was moving. ;)

I'd love to see you fire off a shot like that and keep everything in focus as it passed by that close at 28mph.

RCALLOYS · 09-11-2005, 10:31 PM

Bah, I know what you meant Jason. Just have to give ya trouble. We did attempt to shoot pics looking past the radar gun and it's display AND get Willy in the background. Produced more of an abstract art type thing than a photograph

Pretty trippy. Video camera is the answer. Hoping later this month after my puter is back and Willy has been tweaked more, to shoot video.

microgoat · 09-12-2005, 12:07 PM

that's one hot Willy! can't wait to see what you do with a long Willy.

JasonInAugusta · 09-12-2005, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microgoat

that's one hot Willy! can't wait to see what you do with a long Willy.

To tell you the truth...I don't want to see it!

badger · 09-12-2005, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonInAugusta

To tell you the truth...I don't want to see it!

Thankfully for Braceysdad, you don't have to. He personally showed Microgoat what can be done with a long willy.

microgoat · 09-12-2005, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger

Thankfully for Braceysdad, you don't have to. He personally showed Microgoat what can be done with a long willy.

and now it's a Wet Willy!

RCALLOYS · 09-12-2005, 10:20 PM

Decided to make Willy longer today

Was able to add a whopping .987 to the wheelbase which required some chassis mods (hacking). Also 3 pairs of misc. spacers to get everything bolted back together. Turned out pretty nice and is rather stout for the way I went about it. Spacers were made for control arms, shock mounts and the control arm brace contraption. Had to open up the chassis as well where the steering linkage goes through and flip the servo around. Was worried about steering but it all worked out cool. Will take him for a hot lap this week later and see how we did.

microgoat · 09-13-2005, 11:00 AM

Soooooo....

now it's a Slick Willy?

braceysdad · 09-13-2005, 03:22 PM

Micro, You Tell Me. How Slick Was It?

JohnRobHolmes · 09-14-2005, 11:18 AM

28 mph isnt too bad for your first attempts. did you get some temp readings by chance? im sure you had lots of head room, but a temp reading would let you know how much you can gear up (once you gear up again and take another temp reading). does the novak manual give you a max operating temp on the motor? i would give it 150F to be safe, 175F to push it, and 200F for maxxing it out. past 100C is asking for trouble on most motors.

RCALLOYS · 09-14-2005, 08:02 PM

Temps were very nice for controller and motor. Motor was about 110 and the controller, 135 so I am guessing we have room to gear up. Did manage to come up with a tire combo. Was fiddling around with some old Traxxas wheels (Nitro Sport) and began to wonder if cutting the beads off them would work on Willy wheels. Turns out yes, the Traxxas wheels once removed...... their ID was perfect to press OVER Willy's wheels. Get to keep stock wheels, correct offset and use 2.2 rubbers. Also can remove the 2.2 beads and go back to stock Willy tires. Mounted up a set of very old Amark slicks I got off E-Bay years ago. They are about 4.750 in diameter so that is a .500 gain over Willy's stock tires. Out for a hot lap we went and WOW, a few smokey burnouts and the tires came to life. I cannot believe how hard these slicks bite. Hard enough to explode the plastic hexes that drive the wheels

Will be making some stainless or aluminum replacements this week! Will be back out maybe this weekend for some more radar runs with the taller back tires. Did some carving on the stock Willy tires as well, the fronts. Put a generous 45 degree angle on both outter and inner edges of the tread. Less tire rolling along the ground plus no square edge to bite when corrective steering is required. No pics of the front tire mods, still limping with my old IBM puter! Few pics of the slicks.

JasonInAugusta · 09-14-2005, 08:55 PM

"Super Gripper" on the body and Amark slicks...

Lookin' good.

I messed around here a few minutes ago to see what my Novak 5800 would do in a lil' 1:18 (7" wheelbase) truck I have here. 25.7mph on a half-dead 6 cell 1800 pack.

Can't wait to see how fast you get this thing going.

bulletproofcustoms · 09-14-2005, 09:40 PM

I agree those armark slicks are sweet......

I found this pic over on the tiny site kinda funny

RCALLOYS · 09-15-2005, 01:57 PM

Hello all
Managed to get the front tire pictures on the slow computer today. Took it for a hot lap last nite, big time difference on steering. The fronts don't dig anymore when turning, should help on violent rollovers

Made my new hexes today but of course my friggin' IBM doesn't like to run USB devices more than once. Sooooo, can't get the pics off the camera! Front tire pictures........

microgoat · 09-15-2005, 04:59 PM

so now it's a long slick Willy with cut-up rubbers?

sounds really dangerous, yet strangely compelling.

09-11-2005, 09:14 PM	#1
RCALLOYS Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St.Louis, MO. Posts: 369	Brushless Willy Speed Results. 56K Beater Hello all. WELL, finally got some time to go play. Dad came up for dinner this evening and then we loaded up our Willys and headed to the parking lot. First off to establish a baseline, Dad's stock Willy was clocked. He ran a blistering 13mph, not bad for a stock Willy. Then, Brushless Willy came out to play. First run, 6 cell pack and best of 5 runs. With the 6 cell we hit 22mph as a best. Then, add another cell and a fresh 6 cell pack for a 7 cell run. Best of 5 we ran 26mph. Dump those packs and load another fresh 6 cell pack and a custom 2 cell pack for an 8 cell run. Took 8 tries to get the hang of launching this thing BUT it is impressive. Especially for something with a 7.750 wheelbase Did 5 runs on 8 cells and was able to lock in 28mph on the radar gun. On the last run with this set up Dad says Willy clocked 34mph when he went by. However Dad forgot to let go of the trigger on the gun to lock the speed on the display! Did figure out 8 cells is really good for 600 foot burnouts Had one very very bad accident on a full throttle run. Cartwheeled probably 8-10 times (very noisy) and splatted up against a chain-link fence. All is ok, only injury was Willy lost his right foot somehow during the impact. What is next you say? Well, time to gear up and stretch the wheelbase some more. Also need to upgrade tires, stock Willy rubbers SUCK. We'll get to 40mph, dunno when but we will Pics for your enjoyment, sorry no action shots or video. No action shots because Dad can't operate the camera. No video because my computer pooped itself and I am running a 450mhz IBM in the meantime! Last edited by RCALLOYS; 09-15-2005 at 01:53 PM.

09-11-2005, 09:26 PM	#2
JasonInAugusta 06 Super National Champ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stark Industries Bar and Grill Posts: 11,361	lmao. Someone did a good job with pics! (although I think you cheated by locking the high speed and taking a poser shot) ;) Last edited by JasonInAugusta; 09-11-2005 at 09:29 PM.

09-12-2005, 10:20 PM	#10
RCALLOYS Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St.Louis, MO. Posts: 369	Longer Willy Decided to make Willy longer today Was able to add a whopping .987 to the wheelbase which required some chassis mods (hacking). Also 3 pairs of misc. spacers to get everything bolted back together. Turned out pretty nice and is rather stout for the way I went about it. Spacers were made for control arms, shock mounts and the control arm brace contraption. Had to open up the chassis as well where the steering linkage goes through and flip the servo around. Was worried about steering but it all worked out cool. Will take him for a hot lap this week later and see how we did.

09-15-2005, 01:57 PM	#17
RCALLOYS Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St.Louis, MO. Posts: 369	Front Tire Pics Hello all Managed to get the front tire pictures on the slow computer today. Took it for a hot lap last nite, big time difference on steering. The fronts don't dig anymore when turning, should help on violent rollovers Made my new hexes today but of course my friggin' IBM doesn't like to run USB devices more than once. Sooooo, can't get the pics off the camera! Front tire pictures........

09-11-2005, 09:40 PM	#3
RCALLOYS Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St.Louis, MO. Posts: 369	Uh huh, was wondering how long it would take someone to post up saying I cheated because of the poser shot. Of all people, sheesh........you know me better than that Jason. I would never cheat. If ya want, you can call my Dad tomorrow to get a verification of Willy's speed from him. LOL Would have been difficult and dangerous to stand behind the radar man, drive Willy and fire off a pic as he went to get the radar gun in the picture. Sucks not having a 'puter that will do video. Once my puter comes back to life we'll do some video footage.

09-11-2005, 09:47 PM	#4
JasonInAugusta 06 Super National Champ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stark Industries Bar and Grill Posts: 11,361	I was saying you cheated with pics. Didn't take them while Willy was moving. ;) I'd love to see you fire off a shot like that and keep everything in focus as it passed by that close at 28mph.

09-11-2005, 10:31 PM	#5
RCALLOYS Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St.Louis, MO. Posts: 369	Bah, I know what you meant Jason. Just have to give ya trouble. We did attempt to shoot pics looking past the radar gun and it's display AND get Willy in the background. Produced more of an abstract art type thing than a photograph Pretty trippy. Video camera is the answer. Hoping later this month after my puter is back and Willy has been tweaked more, to shoot video.

09-12-2005, 12:07 PM	#6
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	that's one hot Willy! can't wait to see what you do with a long Willy.

09-13-2005, 11:00 AM	#11
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	Soooooo.... now it's a Slick Willy?

09-13-2005, 03:22 PM	#12
braceysdad Adilynsdad too! Join Date: May 2004 Location: G ville Posts: 8,844	Micro, You Tell Me. How Slick Was It?

09-14-2005, 11:18 AM	#13
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	28 mph isnt too bad for your first attempts. did you get some temp readings by chance? im sure you had lots of head room, but a temp reading would let you know how much you can gear up (once you gear up again and take another temp reading). does the novak manual give you a max operating temp on the motor? i would give it 150F to be safe, 175F to push it, and 200F for maxxing it out. past 100C is asking for trouble on most motors.

09-14-2005, 08:02 PM	#14
RCALLOYS Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St.Louis, MO. Posts: 369	Temps were very nice for controller and motor. Motor was about 110 and the controller, 135 so I am guessing we have room to gear up. Did manage to come up with a tire combo. Was fiddling around with some old Traxxas wheels (Nitro Sport) and began to wonder if cutting the beads off them would work on Willy wheels. Turns out yes, the Traxxas wheels once removed...... their ID was perfect to press OVER Willy's wheels. Get to keep stock wheels, correct offset and use 2.2 rubbers. Also can remove the 2.2 beads and go back to stock Willy tires. Mounted up a set of very old Amark slicks I got off E-Bay years ago. They are about 4.750 in diameter so that is a .500 gain over Willy's stock tires. Out for a hot lap we went and WOW, a few smokey burnouts and the tires came to life. I cannot believe how hard these slicks bite. Hard enough to explode the plastic hexes that drive the wheels Will be making some stainless or aluminum replacements this week! Will be back out maybe this weekend for some more radar runs with the taller back tires. Did some carving on the stock Willy tires as well, the fronts. Put a generous 45 degree angle on both outter and inner edges of the tread. Less tire rolling along the ground plus no square edge to bite when corrective steering is required. No pics of the front tire mods, still limping with my old IBM puter! Few pics of the slicks.

09-14-2005, 08:55 PM	#15
JasonInAugusta 06 Super National Champ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stark Industries Bar and Grill Posts: 11,361	"Super Gripper" on the body and Amark slicks... Lookin' good. I messed around here a few minutes ago to see what my Novak 5800 would do in a lil' 1:18 (7" wheelbase) truck I have here. 25.7mph on a half-dead 6 cell 1800 pack. Can't wait to see how fast you get this thing going.

09-14-2005, 09:40 PM	#16
bulletproofcustoms Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boobslando, florida Posts: 323	I agree those armark slicks are sweet...... I found this pic over on the tiny site kinda funny

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09-15-2005, 04:59 PM	#18
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	so now it's a long slick Willy with cut-up rubbers? sounds really dangerous, yet strangely compelling.

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