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03-22-2015, 11:24 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: SW Ontario, Canada
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The only triple I ever owned was a Yamaha XS750 4-stroke with shaft drive. I bought it used and it had been fitted with slightly higher bars and a very comfortable 'King and Queen' seat. I remember I had to watch throttle application on damp roads when going around roundabouts as the back wheel used to like to 'step out' and you would end up going around 'speedway style' on opposite lock with a spinning rear wheel!   | |
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03-22-2015, 11:49 AM
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| MODERATOR™   Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio
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| Re: Cool Pictures
Quick flip of the topic for a minute. |
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03-22-2015, 07:21 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delta B.C.
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| Re: Cool Pictures
Recently discovered cave in Vietnam..just epic  http://ninjanews.com/a-farmer-found-...r-breath-away/ Here is a cool drone flight through Last edited by vonclod; 03-22-2015 at 07:25 PM. |
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03-23-2015, 01:15 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Working in my dream RC workshop and remodeling my entire home.
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From something like mine here.....  To this.... (This guy has the same model and year as mine In the same color and matching pipes as mine. Aside from the air cleaner, he has already done what I have always imagined. Found him on Facebook by chance in a group we both belong to.)  Last edited by MAXXMASHER; 03-23-2015 at 04:24 AM. | |
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03-23-2015, 10:37 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delta B.C.
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| Re: Cool Pictures
Cool stuff , Sporty is a good engine to mod and make power, I think some of the Buels(shame they are gone) are putting out 100+hp. Nice project keep us posted. My dad rode his H2(80hp just over 400lbs) after he bought it and decided it was a death trap so he stripped her down and welded some gussets into the frame and made it right..it was still scary(hard to keep front wheel down when it hits the powerband) but at least it would go straight. I miss my dad, such a skilled welder/engineer so much I never learned from him.
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03-23-2015, 04:15 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Western, NC
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| Re: Cool Pictures
HP is overrated, carving corners is where it's at.  I'm fortunate to live in street bike mecca  |
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03-23-2015, 04:24 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Athens
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Plus it's hardly like a Harely can use even 70bhp as they don't stop or go round corners well, so what's the point | |
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03-23-2015, 04:28 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jacksonville Illinois
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| Re: Cool Pictures
I always wanted to put a Harley or two Harley motors in my Miata. Can you imagine the confusion hearing that idle at a stop light. Or fire up without warning..... Badass.
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03-23-2015, 04:36 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Western, NC
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03-23-2015, 05:45 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Athens
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Twin shocks, belt drive and a Harely motor, no thanks Exhaust looks perfectly placed to melt your right leg as well, must have taken them all of 10mins to "design" that The twin exhausts are what nails it for me, that goes into the "all show and no go" category for me, just like Harelys in fact  Last edited by EeePee; 03-23-2015 at 05:57 PM. |
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03-23-2015, 08:37 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Deep in Swing Town
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| Re: Cool Pictures
The XR 750 was introduced in 1970 and has dominated the flat track scene ever since. It possesses engine power characteristics that are ideal for flat track racing. It has a gradual powerband that delivers excellent torque and horsepower. And since they switched to alloy cylinders in 1972 from its original cast iron cylinders, it has been extremely durable. just saying.......... Flat Track Grand National Champions 2009 - Jared Mees (Harley-Davidson) 2008 - Ken Coolbeth (Harley-Davidson/Honda) 2007 - Ken Coolbeth (Harley-Davidson/Honda) 2006 - Ken Coolbeth (Harley-Davidson/Honda) 2005 - Chris Carr (Harley-Davidson/KTM) 2004 - Chris Carr (Harley-Davidson/Rotax/KTM) 2003 - Chris Carr (Harley-Davidson/Rotax/VOR) 2002 - Chris Carr (HarleyDavidson/Rotax/ATK/VOR) 2001 - Chris Carr (Harley-Davidson/Rotax /ATK) 2000 - Joe Kopp (Harley-Davidson) 1999 - Chris Carr (Harley-Davidson) 1998 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1997 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1996 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1995 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1994 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1993 - Ricky Graham (Honda) 1992 - Chris Carr (Harley-Davidson) 1991 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1990 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1989 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1988 - Scott Parker (Harley-Davidson) 1987 - Bubba Shobert (Honda) 1986 - Bubba Shobert (Honda) 1985 - Bubba Shobert (Honda) 1984 - Ricky Graham (Honda) 1983 - Randy Goss (Harley-Davidson) 1982 - Ricky Graham (Harley-Davidson) 1981 - Mike Kidd (Harley-Davidson/Yamaha) 1980 - Randy Goss (Harley-Davidson) 1979 - Steve Eklund (Harley-Davidson/Yamaha) 1978 - Jay Springsteen (Harley-Davidson) 1977 - Jay Springsteen (Harley-Davidson) 1976 - Jay Springsteen (Harley-Davidson) 1975 - Gary Scott (Harley-Davidson) 1974 - Kenny Roberts (Yamaha) 1973 - Kenny Roberts (Yamaha) 1972 - Mark Brelsford (Harley-Davidson) 1971 - Dick Mann (BSA) 1970 - Gene Romero (Triumph) 1969 - Mert Lawill (Harley-Davidson) 1968 - Gary Nixon (Triumph) 1967 - Gary Nixon (Triumph) 1966 - Bart Markel (Harley-Davidson) 1965 - Bart Markel (Harley-Davidson) 1964 - Roger Reiman (Harley-Davidson) 1963 - Dick Mann (BSA/MAT) 1962 - Bart Markel (Harley-Davidson) 1961 - Carroll Resweber (Harley-Davidson) 1960 - Carroll Resweber (Harley-Davidson) 1959 - Carroll Resweber (Harley-Davidson) 1958 - Carroll Resweber (Harley-Davidson) 1957 - Joe Leonard (Harley-Davidson) 1956 - Joe Leonard (Harley-Davidson) 1955 - Brad Andres (Harley-Davidson) 1954 - Joe Leonard (Harley-Davidson) love me some XR 750"s |
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03-23-2015, 08:54 PM
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| MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio
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What kind of curve is desirable for flat track? Fat torque curve or peaky high end? |
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03-23-2015, 09:33 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: grand junction
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03-24-2015, 02:23 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Athens
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Any Motocross or enduro championships won on a Harley? Just asking In all seriousness if you're American the draw is obvious, there are areas with long straight roads so cruising is more important than cornering, they're also American so folks buy with their heart. I've ridden several though and in my opinion coming from sportsbikes, they're crap. The suspension is crap, the brakes are crap, the sitting position is crap, the engine is like it's been taken out of a tractor, the foot forward position is crap and they handle so bad they become a liability when ridden on European roads in a group. The other thing over here in Europe is that most Harely buyers don't have a foooookin clue about bikes, most are middle aged bank managers going through a mid life crisis, so they buy into the life style idea of a Harley. Which to be honest is equally kinda funny and sad by the same amount. So for Americans in America i still think they're crap bikes but i understand the draw, i still think they're crap as bikes though. But then again i have a Miata and Smart and play with toy cars so...... | |
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03-24-2015, 07:22 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Deep South
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Harley's have a niche, and apparently it's not one you fit in. I don't own one and never will. But I know quite a few that do and love them for what they are and how they use them. Which is basically just cruising. They'll make a 3-4 day trip on them crushing the scenic highways. Try that on a crotch rocket as a middle aged person with the wifey on the bag while carrying several changes of clothes and toiletries in saddle bags or a backpack. Just saying. You laugh at Harley's like we laugh at Smart cars. It's all good. Different machine, different riding conditions, and a different mindset. |
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03-24-2015, 07:50 AM
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| ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX
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03-24-2015, 08:26 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Athens
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The Mrs and i have done Greece to the UK and back a few times on various sportsbikes. Throw in a bit of touring getting there and we usually see 5000 miles in 3 weeks. My old Cbr fv pic'd here in the alps  Each to their own, as i say in the US i can understand the appeal even if they're not for me | |
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03-24-2015, 11:09 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Western, NC
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Yep all show, no go, as pictured below. My point was that Harley has made a model that turns, stops, and does things that you would not normally think they'd be suited for. If it's not your cup of tea, that's fine. But automatically dismissing something's capabilities based on appearance alone is pretty closed minded IMO. I've had my eyes opened more than once by guys on completely unassuming looking bikes, and for that matter, completely unassuming looking riders. They even have a spec class series devoted to it, and if I had the cash, I'd love to race in it. It all comes down to the rider and bike setup that way.  Last edited by hpiguy; 03-24-2015 at 11:12 AM. |
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03-24-2015, 12:10 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoCal.
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Harleys are great for Motocross. Harleys are slowly creeping into freestyle motocross now. |
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03-24-2015, 12:27 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Athens
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I used to race old air cooled TZ250's, we had a blast but compared to any other bike it was like riding a pushbike speed wise. As far as judging something based upon appearances. Twin shocks aren't the best way to go, i know this from experience, the fact that they've been replaced by mono shocks on pretty much all performance motorbikes is a pretty reliable tell tale. There is absolutely no performance gain to be had by using 2 end cans of a 4 stroke, all you're doing is adding weight. If that's not done just for show i don't know what is. I'd also question the logic of having 1 shock right next to the exhaust, unless it's a mod that's restricted due to some class regulations it seems a pretty daft location. A quick google and first mention of lap times i found for the Harleys was at NJMP.. A Harley-Davidson XR1200 ridden by Shane Narbonne clocked a 1:29.773 First google result i found for a road bike time there was this guy on a R6 with road tyres. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8NwkAq6dQ At 6:20 he posted a lap of 1'32.24 Sure 2.5 seconds a lap is a huge gap, there's not a racer in the world that wouldn't do anything to get that sort of advantage. But for (what seems) to be a stock 600cc road bike (i.e. with lights, number plate, stock fairing etc) on road tyres, being ridden by someone without race experience, hopefully it goes some way to put my point forward that Harleys aren't really circuit bikes and that by making them so it's all about show. Not to say slow bikes aren't entertaining to watch if they're evenly matched, but it's more a Harely public relations exercise than anything else IMO, hence the all show no go remark *BTW Josh Hayes posted a 1:20.716 in 2009 there in the American Superbike championship Such a shame he didn't get a better chance in MotoGP  | |
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