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ScaleReady · 11-10-2011, 06:08 PM

I have been seeing SO MANY posts in the want ads and sale ads with these wraiths. Why is everyone getting rid of them and going back to the "old ways"???? Seems like they were hot for a minute, then fizzled out.

SledRig · 11-10-2011, 06:15 PM

This is the way any type of RC goes. One minute it's hot, then it's not. With all of the media outlets and hype, I think the anticipation is the most excitement. Everyone wants to preorder...... I think it's hard to live up to expectations.

Underground · 11-10-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PHILLBILLY

Seems like they were hot for a minute, then fizzled out.

....well its like the cool kid at school...once he craps his pants, people find someone else to heap their praise upon.

ScaleReady · 11-10-2011, 06:17 PM

Guess that is why I build all mine from scratch. Then you know what you got and how it will do. They did provide us with some killer axles though! I still would like a set of them

War Pig · 11-10-2011, 06:19 PM

I think everyone wanted the hot new thing and then realized that it wasn't the perfect crawler. They are limited in stock form, and not everyone wants to dump a bunch of money into one to make it perform better. They are fun, but limited. That being said, I love mine.

crazyorigin · 11-10-2011, 07:44 PM

There is no perfect crawler, period.

I think it is just a classic example of people wanting the newest thing to hit the market, and when they have it they just want the next thing, and then the next and so on. I love my wraith, but they are big (wide/long) and take some $ to set up for serious bashing. I broke a $4 part and it resulted in me spending about $600 on upgrades, hahahaha.

dezfan · 11-10-2011, 07:48 PM

The Wraiths are cool, but didn't really push my buttons.

Personally, I was hoping for something a little more on the scale side w/ a narrower set of axles.

That said, a couple of the Bronco and Blazer bodied Wraith builds have caught my attention.

JeremyH · 11-10-2011, 07:59 PM

I dig my wraith. Hands down, the most fun RC in my collection!

omenwolf · 11-10-2011, 08:03 PM

We are a fickle bunch(rc people in general) we always want the new thing, then we get it mod the crap out of it than we start looking for the next new thing. EXO TERRA hint hint. And by the way I love my Wraith and run it all the time.

madkawi650 · 11-10-2011, 08:15 PM

Love my wraith too.. Just wish I had $1000 for all the mods I want. Haha

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hende · 11-10-2011, 10:07 PM

Been trying to decide I sold my comp rig was gunna go for a scaler of sorts. Would the wraith be a happy medium between the two maybe?

squatch71 · 11-10-2011, 10:20 PM

Im with DEZ...narrower axles would of done it for me.

Hoyta · 11-10-2011, 10:20 PM

I loved my Wraith- enough wheel speed on 3s to have fun with. It lived up to its hype for me

crunky · 11-10-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by squatch71

Im with DEZ...narrower axles would of done it for me.

me six.

TexasSP · 11-11-2011, 07:36 AM

I think it's just part and parcel to a consumer society who always has to have the latest in an attempt to be happy.

I have only ever bought one truck right when it came out, which was the original SCX10 kit. Other than that I wait and see what they are really like first.

I think the wraiths are cool, but for me and what I like, they don't fit. I much prefer something with narrower axles and more street truck looking. Plus, after seeing them in action up close, they have some limitations that I don't care for. If I was to build a similar type rig, I would go with AX axles or R1 axles for my build.

bigstu · 11-11-2011, 07:41 AM

I bought mine just to have the axles and play around with a TTC truck. Figured I could get something that would be a little different than the norm. Too bad klabeaume beat me to it. LOL...

yoda@4x4 · 11-11-2011, 07:52 AM

Most of you are right the NEW is always Cool and then it die's and on to the next NEW cool thing... and your right it does take a ton of money and upgrade's to get these things the way you want it to perform and look. I like my wraith they are fun and a good all round truck, a norrow axle would have been nice but we will just have to wait and see what they bring next....

RANOVRU · 11-11-2011, 08:06 AM

Ive wanted one since RCC put the first info up about it and will still be getting one.

I wasnt aware of any major problems aside from the normal things folks whine about.

And although "scale" is constantly evolving I cant get over how scale the Wraith IS for an out of the box RTR. Reminiscing from the "History of RCC" thread I remember my first HG "scaler" being a cut down TXT frame with Clod axles and a PL Rubicon shell. At the time it was the bees knees. To see how far things have come I think the Wraith is sick for a RTR.

johnnyh66 · 11-11-2011, 09:37 AM

I knew I wanted a set of Wraith axles for my Rock Rider chassis as soon as the stats came out... and I got a set as soon as RPP started parting out the kit's. Personally, I don't care for the buggy chassis that much so I knew I would never actually buy a Wraith.

The only rc's I've ever bought new when they first came out were the Traxxas Mini E-Revo and the Venom VMX 450.
I have no regrets about the Traxxas.

I did regret the Venom though because as soon as people started running the bike, including me, the plastic gyro gears started failing.

Fortionatlly, unlike Axial with the rear Wraith shaft issue, Venom immediately released metal gears and sent them to everyone that had purchased the first run of bikes and they upgraded all the bikes from then on.

Come to think of it, all of the rc's I have were bought used or pieced together from used parts... patience young grasshopper.

bob1961 · 11-11-2011, 10:04 AM

people keep forgetting that axial makes entry level stuff like the AX10, SCX10, XR10 and now the WRATH is no difference....then the market follows up very nicely with upgraded parts....if axial made there stuff top of the line they would need to charge at least $500.00+ for there stuff with upgraded heavy duty parts where one wouldn't need to upgrade....when the AX10 scorpion came out i thought bout buying the kit, but then i would only really use the axles housing from it so i just bought them and went from there....now i'm thinking of using the WRATH axle in my pro 4 SCT truck instead of RC4WD's short course axle they have since the WRATH axle looks to be the same width....remember axial kits/trucks are entry level at a good cheap price

...........bob

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11-10-2011, 06:08 PM	#1
ScaleReady RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yelm Posts: 1,643	Wraiths....not all they cracked up to be? I have been seeing SO MANY posts in the want ads and sale ads with these wraiths. Why is everyone getting rid of them and going back to the "old ways"???? Seems like they were hot for a minute, then fizzled out.

11-11-2011, 08:06 AM	#18
RANOVRU Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 464	Ive wanted one since RCC put the first info up about it and will still be getting one. I wasnt aware of any major problems aside from the normal things folks whine about. And although "scale" is constantly evolving I cant get over how scale the Wraith IS for an out of the box RTR. Reminiscing from the "History of RCC" thread I remember my first HG "scaler" being a cut down TXT frame with Clod axles and a PL Rubicon shell. At the time it was the bees knees. To see how far things have come I think the Wraith is sick for a RTR. Last edited by RANOVRU; 11-11-2011 at 10:07 AM.

11-11-2011, 10:04 AM	#20
bob1961 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wayne county. PA Posts: 2,507	people keep forgetting that axial makes entry level stuff like the AX10, SCX10, XR10 and now the WRATH is no difference....then the market follows up very nicely with upgraded parts....if axial made there stuff top of the line they would need to charge at least $500.00+ for there stuff with upgraded heavy duty parts where one wouldn't need to upgrade....when the AX10 scorpion came out i thought bout buying the kit, but then i would only really use the axles housing from it so i just bought them and went from there....now i'm thinking of using the WRATH axle in my pro 4 SCT truck instead of RC4WD's short course axle they have since the WRATH axle looks to be the same width....remember axial kits/trucks are entry level at a good cheap price ...........bob .... Last edited by bob1961; 11-11-2011 at 10:08 AM.

11-10-2011, 06:15 PM	#2
SledRig Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Everson, WA Posts: 174	This is the way any type of RC goes. One minute it's hot, then it's not. With all of the media outlets and hype, I think the anticipation is the most excitement. Everyone wants to preorder...... I think it's hard to live up to expectations.

11-10-2011, 06:17 PM	#4
ScaleReady RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yelm Posts: 1,643	Guess that is why I build all mine from scratch. Then you know what you got and how it will do. They did provide us with some killer axles though! I still would like a set of them

11-10-2011, 06:19 PM	#5
War Pig I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The beautiful Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,923	I think everyone wanted the hot new thing and then realized that it wasn't the perfect crawler. They are limited in stock form, and not everyone wants to dump a bunch of money into one to make it perform better. They are fun, but limited. That being said, I love mine.

11-10-2011, 07:44 PM	#6
crazyorigin Sometimes, I make things. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mt. Upton Posts: 1,043	There is no perfect crawler, period. I think it is just a classic example of people wanting the newest thing to hit the market, and when they have it they just want the next thing, and then the next and so on. I love my wraith, but they are big (wide/long) and take some $ to set up for serious bashing. I broke a $4 part and it resulted in me spending about $600 on upgrades, hahahaha.

11-10-2011, 07:48 PM	#7
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	The Wraiths are cool, but didn't really push my buttons. Personally, I was hoping for something a little more on the scale side w/ a narrower set of axles. That said, a couple of the Bronco and Blazer bodied Wraith builds have caught my attention.

11-10-2011, 07:59 PM	#8
JeremyH I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 16,952	I dig my wraith. Hands down, the most fun RC in my collection!

11-10-2011, 08:03 PM	#9
omenwolf Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Gresham Posts: 136	We are a fickle bunch(rc people in general) we always want the new thing, then we get it mod the crap out of it than we start looking for the next new thing. EXO TERRA hint hint. And by the way I love my Wraith and run it all the time.

11-10-2011, 08:15 PM	#10
madkawi650 Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chezzetcook Nova Scotia Posts: 537	Love my wraith too.. Just wish I had $1000 for all the mods I want. Haha Sent from my highly abused iPhone using Tapatalk

11-10-2011, 10:07 PM	#11
hende Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Salem,Oregon Posts: 662	Been trying to decide I sold my comp rig was gunna go for a scaler of sorts. Would the wraith be a happy medium between the two maybe?

11-10-2011, 10:20 PM	#12
squatch71 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: four o six Posts: 2,101	Im with DEZ...narrower axles would of done it for me.

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11-10-2011, 10:20 PM	#13
Hoyta Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Franklin, Va Posts: 456	I loved my Wraith- enough wheel speed on 3s to have fun with. It lived up to its hype for me

11-11-2011, 07:36 AM	#15
TexasSP RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tyler, TX Posts: 1,619	I think it's just part and parcel to a consumer society who always has to have the latest in an attempt to be happy. I have only ever bought one truck right when it came out, which was the original SCX10 kit. Other than that I wait and see what they are really like first. I think the wraiths are cool, but for me and what I like, they don't fit. I much prefer something with narrower axles and more street truck looking. Plus, after seeing them in action up close, they have some limitations that I don't care for. If I was to build a similar type rig, I would go with AX axles or R1 axles for my build.

11-11-2011, 07:41 AM	#16
bigstu RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Auburn, MI Posts: 1,177	I bought mine just to have the axles and play around with a TTC truck. Figured I could get something that would be a little different than the norm. Too bad klabeaume beat me to it. LOL...

11-11-2011, 07:52 AM	#17
yoda@4x4 Looking for new Trails Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: GPS locating signal..... Posts: 558	Most of you are right the NEW is always Cool and then it die's and on to the next NEW cool thing... and your right it does take a ton of money and upgrade's to get these things the way you want it to perform and look. I like my wraith they are fun and a good all round truck, a norrow axle would have been nice but we will just have to wait and see what they bring next....

11-11-2011, 09:37 AM	#19
johnnyh66 Scale Detail Engineering Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 5,573	I knew I wanted a set of Wraith axles for my Rock Rider chassis as soon as the stats came out... and I got a set as soon as RPP started parting out the kit's. Personally, I don't care for the buggy chassis that much so I knew I would never actually buy a Wraith. The only rc's I've ever bought new when they first came out were the Traxxas Mini E-Revo and the Venom VMX 450. I have no regrets about the Traxxas. I did regret the Venom though because as soon as people started running the bike, including me, the plastic gyro gears started failing. Fortionatlly, unlike Axial with the rear Wraith shaft issue, Venom immediately released metal gears and sent them to everyone that had purchased the first run of bikes and they upgraded all the bikes from then on. Come to think of it, all of the rc's I have were bought used or pieced together from used parts... patience young grasshopper.

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