12-21-2017, 09:26 AM | #601 |
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12-21-2017, 09:43 AM | #602 |
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You're such an inspiration for the ways That I'll never ever choose to be Oh so many ways for me to show you How the savior has abandoned you **** your God Your Lord and your Christ He did this Took all you had and Left you this way Still you pray, you never stray Never taste of the fruit You never thought to question why It's not like you killed someone It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side Praise the one who left you Broken down and paralyzed He did it all for you He did it all for you Oh so many many ways for me to show you How your dogma has abandoned you Pray to your Christ, to your god Never taste of the fruit Never stray, never break Never---choke on a lie Even though he's the one who did this to you You never thought to question why Not like you killed someone It's Not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side Talk to Jesus Christ As if he knows the reasons why He did it all for you Did it all for you He did it all for you.. |
12-21-2017, 09:46 AM | #603 |
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Nothing wins a religion debate than lyrics from Maynard. |
12-21-2017, 09:53 AM | #604 |
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I’m still praying for tital waves... Gotta remember to look for those albums on iTunes. |
12-21-2017, 11:30 AM | #605 |
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12-21-2017, 03:46 PM | #606 |
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I want to believe in god, I really do. Problem is I'm just so confused as to which one I should believe in |
12-21-2017, 03:53 PM | #607 | |
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Good point. There's no other valid or plausible explanation. So it must be the work of a god, even though there's actually no evidence to suggest it was.... So who created god then? | |
12-21-2017, 04:58 PM | #608 | |||
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12-21-2017, 05:19 PM | #609 | ||
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If you're so adamant, please prove your theorem that there is no god or 'higher power'. | ||
12-21-2017, 06:15 PM | #610 | |||
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I love these types of discussions as long as everyone remains calm and doesn't take it personally or claim to have 'won' anything, very interesting to me. All religions I can think of at the moment have a god (central higher power), Christianity, Buddhism (except Buddhism apparently), native Americans (Great Creator), etcetera, in my opinion these are all the same god, God, Creator, etc. Buddhism and native American religions make the most sense to me, I've studied many of them and know (and discuss with some of them about this), there seems to be consensus that there's a higher power even though it seems that Buddhism doesn't necessarily agree that there is. This discussion reminds me of a very interesting docudrama we watched on Netflix awhile back. Very deep discussion, interesting, loved it! Everyone should be raised to be in tune/touch with the Earth/cosmos and all that is around us, would be a much better place to live. Humano (2013) - IMDb Humano (2013) Not Rated | 1h 27min | Documentary, Mystery | November 2013 (Argentina) Humano Poster A young man travels to the Andean mountains to understand the origin of man and the reason of his existence. Director: Alan Stivelman Writer: Alan Stivelman In Yoga, "Namaste", the spirit within me honors the spirit within you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste Native American religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_religion Buddhism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism | |||
12-21-2017, 06:24 PM | #611 | |
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The burden of proof is on those making the positive claim of the existence of a god. My position is that I do not accept any of the past or current claims of a god or gods. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | |
12-21-2017, 06:30 PM | #612 | |
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I’m disappointed in your misunderstanding of the definition of the word theory in science vs normal parlance as you are usually precise. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | |
12-21-2017, 06:37 PM | #613 |
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Spaceman....lol. Enjoy and repeat as needed. Edit: by the way why would the word theory ever be used in a non-scientific manner? After all we are trying to either prove or disprove. Here ya go, btw I like that show too, but they often assume a little too much. https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/Ancient-Aliens Last edited by Natedog; 12-21-2017 at 06:39 PM. |
12-21-2017, 06:38 PM | #614 |
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The funny thing about his debate is that nobody ACTUALLY knows anything...
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12-21-2017, 06:57 PM | #615 |
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12-21-2017, 07:35 PM | #616 |
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Personally, I don't care what people believe in. If it makes people feel better believing there's some type if higher power, then thumbs up to them . Whatever floats your boat and I'm not here to try and change your belief.... However, when believers make statements like 'the work of god is evident all around us'.... as a fairly pragmatic and rational person I'm curious about this, cause I don't see any obvious evidence of the work of god. Unless of course I just simply accept the bibles version of events and historical accounts..... and don't question any of the many glaringly obvious holes in the story.... Apart from quoting passages from the bible or people stating their faith in their chosen God, no-one, not a single person in this thread has been able to provide a single shred of indisputable evidence for the existence of one or more Gods.... Happy for people to believe whatever they want, but please, stop suggesting there's a sh*tload of evidence for the existence of a god, when there's in fact none. If there was evidence then there'd be no debate and we wouldn't even be having this discussion, right? Last edited by Rotare; 12-21-2017 at 08:21 PM. |
12-21-2017, 07:59 PM | #617 |
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12-21-2017, 09:37 PM | #618 | |
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I understand faith. Faith is just dandy. We all have it in some form or another. I have no problem with it, or with people that have it. What I have a problem with is faith defended with "facts" and "science". If it were factual and provable, you wouldn't need faith, and most that attempt to use science to prop up their beliefs have very little knowledge in how science even works, and try to use it like it was simply an unfounded belief. | |
12-21-2017, 10:46 PM | #619 | |
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It's more Sum of All Things, Creation Energy, The Universe, Shared Consciousness... which we are all a part of. Which in my mind is one of the main differences between indigenous beliefs and the Abrahamic religions... Abrahamic religions teach us the human is separate from God and you must worship to gain favor of God or be punished. Indigenous beliefs teach us God is within us, within all things, we are One and all things should be treated with the same respect. | |
12-21-2017, 10:58 PM | #620 |
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That’s about the jist of it where I’m from too.
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