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Now, THAT'S what I call "precautionary measures"...lol

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"Multiple industries, from transportation & travel, to banking & Wall Street, ARE being affected by this situation...THAT IS REALITY. The "media" didn't create these statistics...reality is CAUSING these statistics. I'm not trying to turn this thread into something political, but, to use another example, when Trump started imposing tariffs, he (falsely) claimed it would help to bolster the U.S. economy, and would boost/create jobs. The reality is that it caused countless U.S. businesses to go out of business."

So the media making a much bigger deal of this has no bearing on how people react? Use your head.

"Countless" businesses? Get a grip. Name 10 reasonably sized, well established businesses that went under.

"More peace, love, laughter & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place" except for those knuckle dragging free market conservatives, of course.

Your own governor has praised Trump's handling of the Wuhan virus. Maybe you need to take a chill pill.

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You want statistics. Here's one, straight from public records. Because of 9/11, almost 18,000 small businesses were shut down or destroyed. There's your proof.

As for Gov. Needing 'praising' Trump, you've twisted the facts. He was NOT "praising Trump's handling of the Wuhan virus"...it was ONLY a response related to the Grand Princess Cruise ship. Here are Newsom's exact words (the 'He said' is Newsom telling the press what Trump said):

"He said, 'We’re gonna do the right thing, and you have my support — all of our support — logistically and otherwise.' He said everything that I could have hoped for. And we had a very long conversation. And every single thing he said, they followed through on. Every single thing. His administration — and it starts at the top, including the vice president — has been consistent with the expectation that we repatriate these passengers and we do it in a way that does justice to the spirit that defines the best of our country and the state of California."

Trump's handling of the Grand Princess matter, and his overall handling of the entire coronavirus matter, are two entirely different things. I'd be willing to bet that, if it were entirely up to Trump, he would have left the passengers stranded at Sea...thankfully, is NOT up to him.

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9/11? You might want to remember that happened more than 15 years before President Trump took office and didn't have much to do with Chinese trade. Maybe you are relying on MSDNC or CNN for your facts and figures. You need to get a more reliable source.

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Those facts...and, they ARE facts...didn't come from MSNBC, or CNN. Again, they came from public records, not any "news source". And, before you even think of asking me to provide the same, you can easily search them out on your own...use your brain. A simple Google search will turn up several. However, since you appear to have purposely chosen those two news sources, and no others, I can only surmise that you, too, are another blind Trump supporter.

In typical Trump-supporter fashion, you not only blame the media, but the exact same media sources he always blames. The points I initially made were NOT ones of political nature...they were points that have the potential of affecting people worldwide. Yes, the media played a considerable part in starting that ball rolling, but it's the stupidity of people who believe everything they're told that had helped that ball to pick up speed.

Think of it like a runaway locomotive - the faster it gets, and the longer it keeps picking up speed, the harder it is to stop. Worse, there are only three things capable of stopping it: a wall, a derailment, or it running out of steam. Thankfully, previous virus scares, such as the Ebola situation a few years ago, "ran out of steam". In the matter of the coronavirus, people better start praying that it's the latter, because the first two possibilities, as with a locomotive, would be nothing less than disasterous. If I were to take some examples from Hollywood...and, I admit, these examples are EXTREMELY day-fetched (purposely so)...let's hope the outcome is more like "Outbreak", and let like "Resident Evil" (both are great movies...tho, I'll gladly take Mila over Morgan).

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I reiterate, President Donald J. Trump was inaugurated on January 20th, 2016 while the event that is referred to as 9/11 occurred on September 11th, 2001, over 15 years earlier. What the hell does 9/11 have to do with the Wuhan virus?! It doesn't matter where you get your facts from if you are talking about something completely unrelated.

My reasons for mentioning those particular news sites is that they have a well-deserved reputation for getting facts completely wrong. Must be a basic leftist trait.

As for being a "blind Trump supporter" I do support Trump, especially when you look at the lunacy espoused by those who would like to replace him. Not blind at all, just logical and rational.

Remember, there are none so blind as those who will not see. Try getting some treatment for your Trump Derangement Syndrome, it is causing more harm to America than COVID 19, SARS, MERS and Swine flu combined.

More logic, rational thought and personal responsibility will make the world a much better place.

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I understand you're a Trump supporter, but, honestly, how incompetent are you? It doesn't seem to matter how many times I explain that NEITHER Trump, NOR the media a has ANYTHING to do with EITHER event. I was NEVER talking about the events, themselves, nor was I (initially) ANY politically-related comments. This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about when Trump supporters start turning things into something political - they twist what's been said

This will be my last comment in this thread, as the absurdity had reached a level that competent people, myself included, should remove themselves from. The ENTIRE point I was making a from the beginning, is the "aftermath" of what can happen in situations like this...especially when media has blown it out of proportion. Put another way, the point was how it can easily affect other industries, including industries that have no connection to the 'occurrence'. And, honestly, it's not just that it "can" affect other industries...in the cases of the coronavirus, it already IS affecting other industries.

To the moderators, please, pardon me for saying the things I'm about to say. At the same time, Freedom of Speech, as guaranteed by The Constitution, legally allows me to not only say this, but it protects me from any form of retaliation. This includes removing what I've written, changing what I've written, blocking me, as well as other protections...and, failure to comply with that law can result in a lawsuit (as some other sites, including other forums, have faced). I never wanted to politicize this thread, I tried explaining that such was never my intention, and, even after someone else started turning it political after I merely commented that someone's commented sounded like they were a Trump supporter, just like the media blowing the coronavirus matter our of proportion, this thread has been blown out of proportion. I'm sorry that some people had to twist some things that I said, and I apologise for my minor lashing out Y them for having done so. Anyway, here's the final thing I will say in this thread, after which I am done with this thread.

Why does it seem as if Trump supporters are completely incapable of using their brains to truly evaluate things, and they only want to believe what 'Dear, Trump" tells them? Even when evidence is shoved right in front of their faces (such as the recent impeachment matter...which, as most people are aware, was followed by a "kangaroo court" joke-of-a-trial), they are incapable of seeing/believing it. Even when he tells boldface lies, and the truth later comes out (even moreso when Trump, himself, eventually tells the truth...or, at least, his 'twisted' version of the truth), his followers still prefer to believe the lies he originally told. This man is a CRIMINAL, is corrupted down to his very soul, and NEEDS to be removed from office by WHATEVER means necessary. If a horse breaks it's leg, 9 times out of 10, the horse is euthanized, so as to "put it out of its misery". Trump is far worse, metaphorically-speaking, than a "broken leg". I wish someone would put him out of 'The People's' misery. He is looked upon...not only by citizens of this country, but even by political leaders worldwide...as the laughing-stock of this country. Not only is he is completely undoing the accomplishments of the previous 4 presidents (Democrats AND Republicans), but he has put himself on the path of dictatorship. Is that what you want this country to become...a counter run by an incompetent, self-serving, egotistical, corrupt, maniacal, egocentric, mentally-unstable dictator?

I have spoken.

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Trump derangement syndrome at its fullest. Good luck with Creepy Joe come November. Off to work I go no mask but a nice little 9mm to protect me from The Who Haun virus. MAGA:flipoff:

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Panther- I honestly couldn't care less about forum arguments ( as stated previously... both sides become completely entrenched and there is rarely compromise, empathy, etc. It just becomes a shit show of nonproductive back-n-forth). And this isn't a jab at you in the least. I have no issues with anyone on any forum because it really doesn't relate to my actual life. But just take this for what it's worth as I'm fairly seasoned in the world of moderating forums...

You are incorrect here ^^^. The content that you post in a forum community has absolutely NO protected status. People occasionally make that assumption but the owners and representatives of this forum have the right to delete, to censor, and to scrutinize content. This is THEIR forum and they reserve the privilege and responsibility to act accordingly. Forums ( despite what you seem to think) are absolutely not a "protected free speech" arena. If you choose to argue this point that's fine and there are plenty of others that have your same mindset but you're 100% wrong here. Again... I'm not jumping on any bandwagon nor am I attempting to ostracize you for your thoughts... just stating a very rudimentary fact. Much respect to everyone in this thread. I have no dog in any emotionally charged internet thread... carry on.

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You are out of touch with reality. You say that economy hasn't improved and then you go onto say that it technically has. WTF? Seriously... WTF?!

And then you go onto say you "didn't want to politicize this" but then you ahead and say Trump is bad, bad, bad and Obama is good, good, good. Come on, man. This is insane talk.

Stop giving Obama credit for Trump's work. Trump's economy exceeded expectations that were projected during Obama's time in office! Obama was a socialist and I shudder to think what would happen to this country if he got his wish and we were burdened by a public healthcare system during this virus outbreak.

Also, Exhibit A for your education.

https://apnews.com/7bc266bcef8712930ce1dc7048312912

As high plains drifter stated, you don't understand the First Amendment.

You should start taking the advice of your signature.


Anyway...


The Coronavirus, like the flu, is going to mainly affect those with "underlying issues" of which I qualify. To combat this I get a flu shot every year. A vaccine is not yet available for the Coronavirus. But the biggest scare of this whole thing IMO is that China has shut down and our supply chain is going to be hurting. Who knows which ingredients of my life sustaining medications are made in China? Sometimes these drugs are already on back order and now they're going to be tougher to get.

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@ pathetic6834

4 words ......... you are a fool

pep

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@Panther6834 - lest we forget earlier Posts..... ”nor was I (initially) ANY politically-related comments.”

Dude - as soon as some folks pushed back on your narrative with their own opinions, you went straight to the “You must be a Trump Supporter” line of attack. Agree with others too, wtf does 911 have to do with the current state of manufactured hysteria surrounding the Coronavirus? There’s this phrase, it involves apples and oranges.

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"I have spoken."

A three year investigation cleared Trump and then a partisan politically motivated impeachment fell flat and we still get leftist useful fools parroting the tired "Trump is a criminal" thing with an utter lack of anything resembling facts or evidence. Facts don't care about your "feelings".

For a long time the leftists defended the lackluster Obama economy and said that it was the new normal. Obama himself said that you couldn't wave a magic wand and bring back the jobs lost. Now you are claiming that Obama is responsible for the vastly improved economy, completely ignoring the simple fact that Trump's diametrically opposed policies (compared to Obama) are responsible.

People like you are a big part of why people like me would love to see California secede. Better that than having a bunch of you infecting red states as economic refugees and then voting in the same sort of people and expecting a different result. You know what Einstein said about that.

~more facts, logic and personal responsibility would make the world a far better place than all the leftist ideas could dream of.

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Let’s settle it down with the personal attacks and name calling. You can disagree with each other till you’re blue in the face but don’t need to call people pathetic, fools, or tell them they are the reason a state should leave the country.

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:lmao:

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Why did this subject turn political. I don't get it. It has nothing with politics. I agree with what Topher just said.

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"something that only old people with pre existing conditions have to worry about."

Thats not quite true, the patient 0 in Italy was a 38 YO marathon runner in perfect condition, and he still needed a couple weeks in a ICU
The Danish patient 0 was cleared a week or so ago after 2 weeks in isolation in his apartment, he said that as far as fly infections go this one did not even make his top 10.

Personally i cant even remember the last time i was down with a flu, it is decades for sure.
When they are around every year and people have them, i get a little runny nose and at worst a sore throat, but the stuff like puking your guts out ASO i have not done that from a flu since i was a kid / teen.

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It's old school RCC! :lmao: I know that was well before your time, but this would have been minor back then. I do agree to keep it from name calling. We can all get sucked into it, but I'd like to think we're a "more mature" - as much as a group of adults that play with toys can get. :ror:


Sadly, it seems everything turns political these days. Divide and conquer.


Interestingly enough, most young children don't seem to be affected even if they are carrying the disease!

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Denmark got shut down tonight, all non essential public works are sent home ,schools ans so on are out for at least 2 weeks,and tomorrow emergency laws will be passed by our parliament.
Hoarding hit the fans tonight too, after the statement by the PM Danes hit the stores pulling stuff from the shelves.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20200302/den...-should-you-be

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It did bring a little grin to my face !:mrgreen: