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PinchFlat · 08-18-2005, 02:43 PM

FYI Here are the 3 classes we will be running in our 2006 Utah points series.

Class 1 - Squat to Pee Class (formally Super Crawler)

- No limits to wheelbase, Vehicle track width or height.
- No limits on tire type or size.
- Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only.
- No limits to steering configuration
- You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable).
- The body must be 1/10th scale or larger.
- The body can be cut/modified but must retain 70% of its original form, but the width or the cab must be the factory width.
- Body should resemble its original form (jeep bodies look like a jeep)

Class 2 - Old School Class (ALL NEW CLASS)

- Limited to ClodBuster, TXT-1 or E-Maxx configuration.
- Vehicle wheelbase is a maximum 14 inches..
- Limited to ClodBuster/TXT, standard MAXX sized wheel or smaller. Wheel Narrowing is allowed.
- Limited to un-modified tires only (straight out of the bag).
- Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only.
- 4-wheel steering allowed, Y-harness only. No crab steer or independent rear steer allowed.
- You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable).
- The body must be 1/10th scale or larger.
- Limited to full body only (the only trimming allowed will be fender flairs).

If any Class 2 vehicle violates any of these guidelines it must be run in the Class 1 - beginner Class

Class 3 - Pro-Mod Class (formally 2.2 Class)

- Vehicle is limited to Tamiya TLT-1 axles ONLY.
- Vehicle wheelbase is a maximum 12.5 inches.
- Limited to 2.2 sized wheels and tires only.
- Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only.
- 4 wheel steering allowed, Y-harness only. No crab steer or independent rear steer allowed.
- You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable).
- The body must be 1/10th scale or larger.
- The body can be cut/modified but must retain 70% of its original form, but the width or the cab must be the factory width.
- Body should resemble its original form (jeep bodies look like a jeep)

If any Class 3 vehicle voilates any of these guidelines it must be run in the Class 1 - Beginner Class

JakeTheAlligatorMan · 08-18-2005, 03:43 PM

So if you have a "2.2 Clod" or a Twinforce, you have to run in the "Beginner Class", and the "Old School Class" is for People who haven't modded there trucks for over a year?

kaetwo · 08-18-2005, 04:15 PM

Kind of....NOT! HEHEHEHE

We have just found that the Super Class is just way to easy and therefor warrants the "Beginner" title. Finding courses in our area is becoming more and mor difficult, especially to find one that really takes the Supers to the limit. The bottom line is you can either make it or you can't with a super.

The oldschool class is just for those that want to add some difficulty to the larger crawlers. A sort-of getting back to our roots class.

The Pro Mod class would be kind of like the the "12th scale mod carpet class"....well not exactly but you get the point. There tuff and the challenge is always there. Limiting them to a sort-of spec type class makes'em even more challenging.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take away from what the Supers are all about, its just that they have progressed to the point that there just a little to easy to walk through a course. Perhaps in a different area they would be more of a challenge. I got thinking the other day about why JK went to a Maxx style crawler......Is it becase it's a better crawler? Did he just want to try something different? Or was it because he was just not challenged by the Super Clod anymore? Who knows.

Late

CSR · 08-18-2005, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeTheAlligatorMan

So if you have a "2.2 Clod" or a Twinforce, you have to run in the "Beginner Class", and the "Old School Class" is for People who haven't modded there trucks for over a year?

Looks like a 2.2" Clod could fit into Class 2, the "Old School Class".

Sparky J · 08-18-2005, 04:30 PM

Well thats a bummer for us that made a clod 2.2 to meet the 12.5" WB guidelines,with no rear steer!! Now we gotta stretch to meet the 14.5" guidelines.

kaetwo · 08-18-2005, 04:37 PM

SparkyJ - Where are you located? If it's not in Utah then don't worry, unless your group follows our lead :-).

Where just changing it up for the year 2006. In 05' we added the 2.2 class and it expoited in our face. Next year where changing the 2.2 and adding Old School. And in 2007.....LTFO! To give you an idea.....Think naked, outdoors, film crews, crawling and lots jello. It's still in the infant stages but I've got a pretty good idea on what to do.....

Late

PinchFlat · 08-18-2005, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky J

Well thats a bummer for us that made a clod 2.2 to meet the 12.5" WB guidelines,with no rear steer!! Now we gotta stretch to meet the 14.5" guidelines.

14"

Sparky J · 08-18-2005, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaetwo

SparkyJ - Where are you located? If it's not in Utah then don't worry, unless your group follows our lead :-).

Where just changing it up for the year 2006. In 05' we added the 2.2 class and it expoited in our face. Next year where changing the 2.2 and adding Old School. And in 2007.....LTFO! To give you an idea.....Think naked, outdoors, film crews, crawling and lots jello. It's still in the infant stages but I've got a pretty good idea on what to do.....

Late

So I can still compete with a clod 2.2 at this upcoming event in Moab? Still no rear steer? Sorry I could'nt for some reason download the rules or maps!

Sparky J · 08-18-2005, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

14"

kaetwo · 08-18-2005, 04:51 PM

Oh ya totally, bring out the clod. These changes are for 06' not for the remaining 05' season......

Late

Fishmaxx · 08-19-2005, 04:21 PM

Beginner Class................ptfffffffffffffffffff

kingcobra · 08-21-2005, 08:04 PM

I will probably get flamed or thrashed for asking but say my rig had twin axles that were narrowed to tlt1 width could I still not run in class 3? I am thinking mabey it is stated only tlt-1 axles so everyone has the same width...or I am wrong all together.

Fishmaxx · 08-22-2005, 05:57 AM

[QUOTE=kingcobra]I will probably get flamed or thrashed for asking but ...........QUOTE]

We can't even get you to drive cross town, and you are worried about what you can run across the country in Utah! WTF!

In Utah their smaller classes have exploded. We had 2 or 3 trucks outside "Super Class" show up at our last get together (24drivers). We are behind them a little.

Our terrain is not a diverse as theirs, so if its challenging for the Super Trucks then its often impossible for the little guys.

kingcobra · 08-22-2005, 04:50 PM

I was thinking all of the sanctioned events had the same rules...that was my intent for asking....and if you remember correctly when that last comp was held I had a twinforce with close to standard width axles running 2.2 tires and wheels...the class I would have been in would have had me seriously handicapped....I don't see the point in competing if there isn't a chance I'll even place. however if my rig can be run in the 2.2 class now that the axles have been narrowed I want to compete.

Fishmaxx · 08-22-2005, 07:41 PM

Download the rules HERE

Locally we(SERCRC) follow rccrawler.com rules.
Other groups amend the rules to fit their membership and terrain.

Several members already own 2.2 class rigs, but no one brings them or shows up because no one brings them or shows up. Its a vicious circle............so bring your damn truck and show up!

jason · 08-22-2005, 07:50 PM

Why not call it the unlimited class, beginner class just doesn't seem like a very good name for the most capable class.

I think by calling it the beginner class you are scareing people from building new things, who wants to build something very innovative, such as Kevin did with the stick, that will walk all over everyone, then be thrown into a group call beginners?

kevinlongisland · 08-23-2005, 10:19 AM

i agree jason, the names need some work. but i really like the idea of an "old school class". It will definitely make it easier to find challenging terrain.

Fishmaxx · 08-23-2005, 07:57 PM

Its just a guess, but I bet Matt and Brett were trying to get this exact reaction when they named it "Beginner Class"

Those damn Bi tches!

Ace · 08-23-2005, 09:27 PM

I think "squat to pee class" would be even better.

thefordmccord · 08-23-2005, 11:17 PM

I wish that more 2.2 trucks would show up at the comps here. I always have mine with me and just end up messing around with it while the clod is resting...

08-18-2005, 02:43 PM	#1
PinchFlat Say hello to my dactylion Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On the Boat to Whore Island Posts: 4,470	Crawler specs for UTRCRC 2006 Season FYI Here are the 3 classes we will be running in our 2006 Utah points series. Class 1 - Squat to Pee Class (formally Super Crawler) - No limits to wheelbase, Vehicle track width or height. - No limits on tire type or size. - Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only. - No limits to steering configuration - You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable). - The body must be 1/10th scale or larger. - The body can be cut/modified but must retain 70% of its original form, but the width or the cab must be the factory width. - Body should resemble its original form (jeep bodies look like a jeep) Class 2 - Old School Class (ALL NEW CLASS) - Limited to ClodBuster, TXT-1 or E-Maxx configuration. - Vehicle wheelbase is a maximum 14 inches.. - Limited to ClodBuster/TXT, standard MAXX sized wheel or smaller. Wheel Narrowing is allowed. - Limited to un-modified tires only (straight out of the bag). - Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only. - 4-wheel steering allowed, Y-harness only. No crab steer or independent rear steer allowed. - You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable). - The body must be 1/10th scale or larger. - Limited to full body only (the only trimming allowed will be fender flairs). If any Class 2 vehicle violates any of these guidelines it must be run in the Class 1 - beginner Class Class 3 - Pro-Mod Class (formally 2.2 Class) - Vehicle is limited to Tamiya TLT-1 axles ONLY. - Vehicle wheelbase is a maximum 12.5 inches. - Limited to 2.2 sized wheels and tires only. - Limited to 4-wheeled vehicles only. - 4 wheel steering allowed, Y-harness only. No crab steer or independent rear steer allowed. - You must run a body (full tube chassis acceptable). - The body must be 1/10th scale or larger. - The body can be cut/modified but must retain 70% of its original form, but the width or the cab must be the factory width. - Body should resemble its original form (jeep bodies look like a jeep) If any Class 3 vehicle voilates any of these guidelines it must be run in the Class 1 - Beginner Class Last edited by PinchFlat; 08-24-2005 at 08:53 AM.

08-18-2005, 04:15 PM	#3
kaetwo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Whales Posts: 2,939	..... Kind of....NOT! HEHEHEHE We have just found that the Super Class is just way to easy and therefor warrants the "Beginner" title. Finding courses in our area is becoming more and mor difficult, especially to find one that really takes the Supers to the limit. The bottom line is you can either make it or you can't with a super. The oldschool class is just for those that want to add some difficulty to the larger crawlers. A sort-of getting back to our roots class. The Pro Mod class would be kind of like the the "12th scale mod carpet class"....well not exactly but you get the point. There tuff and the challenge is always there. Limiting them to a sort-of spec type class makes'em even more challenging. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take away from what the Supers are all about, its just that they have progressed to the point that there just a little to easy to walk through a course. Perhaps in a different area they would be more of a challenge. I got thinking the other day about why JK went to a Maxx style crawler......Is it becase it's a better crawler? Did he just want to try something different? Or was it because he was just not challenged by the Super Clod anymore? Who knows. Late Last edited by kaetwo; 08-18-2005 at 04:32 PM.

08-18-2005, 04:37 PM	#6
kaetwo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Whales Posts: 2,939	..... SparkyJ - Where are you located? If it's not in Utah then don't worry, unless your group follows our lead :-). Where just changing it up for the year 2006. In 05' we added the 2.2 class and it expoited in our face. Next year where changing the 2.2 and adding Old School. And in 2007.....LTFO! To give you an idea.....Think naked, outdoors, film crews, crawling and lots jello. It's still in the infant stages but I've got a pretty good idea on what to do..... Late

08-18-2005, 04:51 PM	#10
kaetwo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Whales Posts: 2,939	.... Oh ya totally, bring out the clod. These changes are for 06' not for the remaining 05' season...... Late

08-18-2005, 03:43 PM	#2
JakeTheAlligatorMan Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: and OR. if . . . . Gone Fishin :p :b :p Posts: 501	So if you have a "2.2 Clod" or a Twinforce, you have to run in the "Beginner Class", and the "Old School Class" is for People who haven't modded there trucks for over a year?

08-18-2005, 04:30 PM	#5
Sparky J RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DODGING ROCK CHUCKERS Posts: 1,137	Well thats a bummer for us that made a clod 2.2 to meet the 12.5" WB guidelines,with no rear steer!! Now we gotta stretch to meet the 14.5" guidelines.

08-19-2005, 04:21 PM	#11
Fishmaxx I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on a Big Rock Posts: 7,837	Beginner Class................ptfffffffffffffffffff

08-21-2005, 08:04 PM	#12
kingcobra Lifetime Gold Baby! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: GA Posts: 530	I will probably get flamed or thrashed for asking but say my rig had twin axles that were narrowed to tlt1 width could I still not run in class 3? I am thinking mabey it is stated only tlt-1 axles so everyone has the same width...or I am wrong all together.

08-22-2005, 05:57 AM	#13
Fishmaxx I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on a Big Rock Posts: 7,837	[QUOTE=kingcobra]I will probably get flamed or thrashed for asking but ...........QUOTE] We can't even get you to drive cross town, and you are worried about what you can run across the country in Utah! WTF! In Utah their smaller classes have exploded. We had 2 or 3 trucks outside "Super Class" show up at our last get together (24drivers). We are behind them a little. Our terrain is not a diverse as theirs, so if its challenging for the Super Trucks then its often impossible for the little guys.

08-22-2005, 04:50 PM	#14
kingcobra Lifetime Gold Baby! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: GA Posts: 530	I was thinking all of the sanctioned events had the same rules...that was my intent for asking....and if you remember correctly when that last comp was held I had a twinforce with close to standard width axles running 2.2 tires and wheels...the class I would have been in would have had me seriously handicapped....I don't see the point in competing if there isn't a chance I'll even place. however if my rig can be run in the 2.2 class now that the axles have been narrowed I want to compete.

08-22-2005, 07:41 PM	#15
Fishmaxx I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on a Big Rock Posts: 7,837	Download the rules HERE Locally we(SERCRC) follow rccrawler.com rules. Other groups amend the rules to fit their membership and terrain. Several members already own 2.2 class rigs, but no one brings them or shows up because no one brings them or shows up. Its a vicious circle............so bring your damn truck and show up!

08-22-2005, 07:50 PM	#16
jason R.I.P. Chip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Crawler State Posts: 13,938	Why not call it the unlimited class, beginner class just doesn't seem like a very good name for the most capable class. I think by calling it the beginner class you are scareing people from building new things, who wants to build something very innovative, such as Kevin did with the stick, that will walk all over everyone, then be thrown into a group call beginners?

08-23-2005, 10:19 AM	#17
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	i agree jason, the names need some work. but i really like the idea of an "old school class". It will definitely make it easier to find challenging terrain.

08-23-2005, 07:57 PM	#18
Fishmaxx I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on a Big Rock Posts: 7,837	Its just a guess, but I bet Matt and Brett were trying to get this exact reaction when they named it "Beginner Class" Those damn Bi tches!

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08-23-2005, 09:27 PM	#19
Ace Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 901	I think "squat to pee class" would be even better.

08-23-2005, 11:17 PM	#20
thefordmccord Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Carlisle, KY Posts: 327	I wish that more 2.2 trucks would show up at the comps here. I always have mine with me and just end up messing around with it while the clod is resting...

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