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Train Of Thought · 03-30-2008, 11:45 PM

...with reverse.
If it can also operate brushless, that would be a bonus.
Just dunked my Tekin Rebel in the pond. It smoked so bad that one of the battery leads fell out of the ESC case!
Time for something new and better

Plus I don't want to have to worry about a little water stopping my fun.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Maggster · 03-31-2008, 11:20 AM

THIS one will run 3s lipo, is waterproof, and has reverse, BUT it has no brakes and no low voltage cutoff. I would be interested in a different answer to this question too.

JohnRobHolmes · 03-31-2008, 11:21 AM

Sounds like you need to just get a waterproof box, nothing on the market that will take 3s that I know of.

Maggster · 03-31-2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

Sounds like you need to just get a waterproof box, nothing on the market that will take 3s that I know of.

The Proboat one I linked to will run on 4-10 cells nimh. I run mine on 3S lipo, but you have to watch it. It doesn't have LVC.

(At least I did until my lipo bit the dust...RIPcs)

JohnRobHolmes · 03-31-2008, 08:45 PM

Right, thus my statement that there isn't anything for 3s lipo on the market that I know of. LVC is key for lipo use.

Train Of Thought · 03-31-2008, 08:45 PM

How about an Mtroniks Viper?
http://www.mtroniks.net/mtroniks_SC_...ubCategoryID=3
...or the "super truck"
http://www.mtroniks.net/mtroniks_SC_...ubCategoryID=5

I know a lot of possible ESC's will not have lipo cutoff. I have been using lipos without cutoff in everything from helis to crawlers to RX packs and starter boxes. I can handle it

How about the LRP Marine Reverse?
http://www.lrp-electronic.de/e/lis/ (bottom of page, but only "splash proof")

Train Of Thought · 03-31-2008, 08:55 PM

OK, so I waterproof my junk myself, which ESC would you recommend then?

FYI: While I rawk crawl and like it alot, I also take my rig out and beat the crap out of it doing other stuff like hill climbing, mud, logs, sand, jumps... and ponds.
So, not totally concerned with drag brake and all that.

Thanks again

gothikon · 03-31-2008, 09:37 PM

The Mamba Max can handle 3s. I think they say it's water resistant rather than waterproof. I sank my crawler which uses a mamba max at the weekend in a foot or two of water and the whole thing was fine. Unfortunately I hadn't finished setting up my waterproof electronics box, everything was in the box, but it wasn't sealed up and waterproof...

The RX took a while to dry out and until it did the whole thing was glitching until it was completely dry but everything survived and it's all running again now.

Finedesign put a Hydra 120 or something in their brushless LST conversion, it's probably overkill for a crawler but I think it can handle up to 6S LiPo, it's completely waterproof, don't know about the breaking options.

mysharona · 03-31-2008, 10:26 PM

I think I heard somewhere that the Mamba series is waterproof, I know the mamba 25 is waterproof, but I am unsure about the max. you might give castle a call tomorrow.

JohnRobHolmes · 03-31-2008, 10:27 PM

Castle controllers are conformal coated. Water resistant, not necessarily dunkable.

Yotakid89 · 04-01-2008, 03:53 PM

So they wouldnt be ok for mudding or semi deep water crossings. What kind of case would you put them in?

Looking at getting a mamba max but need something for all terrain. Mud, rocks, water, dirt, sand

JohnRobHolmes · 04-01-2008, 04:24 PM

I would put one into a ballon or condom, then seal the opening with some silicon and a ziptie.

Yotakid89 · 04-01-2008, 04:30 PM

I assume a non lubed condom

I read about dry-rot withthe balloon. How often do you change yours. How about overheating problems. i will be running during our summers here in Washington and it can hit 110. Just drive it into a creek to cool it off

JohnRobHolmes · 04-01-2008, 04:42 PM

I don't run in water, solves the problem

If I were, I would use a mamba max to keep the heat down. Then I would either balloon it (change every month or so) or put it into a small tupperware container.

Yotakid89 · 04-01-2008, 04:54 PM

Looks like I'll be Ballooning as i plan on using a Mamba Max. Just velcro it down? Would it be ok to put the receiver in with the ESC or would that be too much heat in one balloon?

JohnRobHolmes · 04-01-2008, 05:46 PM

I would use zip ties to keep it down, a balloon would shift on the velcro. If your RX doesn't hate you for being too close to the ESC give it a shot. I would use a different balloon on the other side of the rig for picky radios.

Yotakid89 · 04-01-2008, 06:04 PM

Ok thanks! I just priced a good order on your site. Expect an order in baout a month

hairba11 · 04-01-2008, 06:37 PM

I have been using a $0.78 travel soap dish from wally-world. it is large enough for my mamba-max, 7channel r/x, and CCBEC. notched one end to let the wires out, and shoe gooed the heck out of it. seems to work ok.

Yotakid89 · 04-01-2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hairba11

I have been using a $0.78 travel soap dish from wally-world. it is large enough for my mamba-max, 7channel r/x, and CCBEC. notched one end to let the wires out, and shoe gooed the heck out of it. seems to work ok.

It seals shut waterproof? Did you shoe goo it shut?

Maggster · 04-02-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

Right, thus my statement that there isn't anything for 3s lipo on the market that I know of. LVC is key for lipo use.

My bad John, I misunderstood what you were saying.

03-30-2008, 11:45 PM	#1
Train Of Thought Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon City, Or Posts: 105	Looking for waterproof, 3S capable brushed ESC ...with reverse. If it can also operate brushless, that would be a bonus. Just dunked my Tekin Rebel in the pond. It smoked so bad that one of the battery leads fell out of the ESC case! Time for something new and better Plus I don't want to have to worry about a little water stopping my fun. Thanks for any suggestions!

03-31-2008, 08:55 PM	#7
Train Of Thought Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon City, Or Posts: 105	OK, so I waterproof my junk myself, which ESC would you recommend then? FYI: While I rawk crawl and like it alot, I also take my rig out and beat the crap out of it doing other stuff like hill climbing, mud, logs, sand, jumps... and ponds. So, not totally concerned with drag brake and all that. Thanks again Last edited by Train Of Thought; 03-31-2008 at 09:12 PM.

03-31-2008, 11:20 AM	#2
Maggster Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 171	THIS one will run 3s lipo, is waterproof, and has reverse, BUT it has no brakes and no low voltage cutoff. I would be interested in a different answer to this question too.

03-31-2008, 11:21 AM	#3
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Sounds like you need to just get a waterproof box, nothing on the market that will take 3s that I know of.

03-31-2008, 08:45 PM	#5
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Right, thus my statement that there isn't anything for 3s lipo on the market that I know of. LVC is key for lipo use.

03-31-2008, 09:37 PM	#8
gothikon Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 33	The Mamba Max can handle 3s. I think they say it's water resistant rather than waterproof. I sank my crawler which uses a mamba max at the weekend in a foot or two of water and the whole thing was fine. Unfortunately I hadn't finished setting up my waterproof electronics box, everything was in the box, but it wasn't sealed up and waterproof... The RX took a while to dry out and until it did the whole thing was glitching until it was completely dry but everything survived and it's all running again now. Finedesign put a Hydra 120 or something in their brushless LST conversion, it's probably overkill for a crawler but I think it can handle up to 6S LiPo, it's completely waterproof, don't know about the breaking options.

03-31-2008, 10:26 PM	#9
mysharona Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2007 Location: lacey Posts: 833	I think I heard somewhere that the Mamba series is waterproof, I know the mamba 25 is waterproof, but I am unsure about the max. you might give castle a call tomorrow.

03-31-2008, 10:27 PM	#10
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Castle controllers are conformal coated. Water resistant, not necessarily dunkable.

04-01-2008, 03:53 PM	#11
Yotakid89 Rock Stacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Washington Posts: 83	So they wouldnt be ok for mudding or semi deep water crossings. What kind of case would you put them in? Looking at getting a mamba max but need something for all terrain. Mud, rocks, water, dirt, sand

04-01-2008, 04:24 PM	#12
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I would put one into a ballon or condom, then seal the opening with some silicon and a ziptie.

04-01-2008, 04:30 PM	#13
Yotakid89 Rock Stacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Washington Posts: 83	I assume a non lubed condom I read about dry-rot withthe balloon. How often do you change yours. How about overheating problems. i will be running during our summers here in Washington and it can hit 110. Just drive it into a creek to cool it off

04-01-2008, 04:42 PM	#14
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I don't run in water, solves the problem If I were, I would use a mamba max to keep the heat down. Then I would either balloon it (change every month or so) or put it into a small tupperware container.

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04-01-2008, 04:54 PM	#15
Yotakid89 Rock Stacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Washington Posts: 83	Looks like I'll be Ballooning as i plan on using a Mamba Max. Just velcro it down? Would it be ok to put the receiver in with the ESC or would that be too much heat in one balloon?

04-01-2008, 05:46 PM	#16
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I would use zip ties to keep it down, a balloon would shift on the velcro. If your RX doesn't hate you for being too close to the ESC give it a shot. I would use a different balloon on the other side of the rig for picky radios.

04-01-2008, 06:04 PM	#17
Yotakid89 Rock Stacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Washington Posts: 83	Ok thanks! I just priced a good order on your site. Expect an order in baout a month

04-01-2008, 06:37 PM	#18
hairba11 RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Louis (High Ridge) Posts: 1,279	I have been using a $0.78 travel soap dish from wally-world. it is large enough for my mamba-max, 7channel r/x, and CCBEC. notched one end to let the wires out, and shoe gooed the heck out of it. seems to work ok.

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