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darkstar · 05-16-2008, 12:04 PM

I recently installed a Goat system in my crawler yesterday. I currently have a 2s 1330 7.4v Lipo pack. I want to know if it's safe to run a 11.1v 3s pack on it. I've read a few different things on them, and I've heard you can, and you can't.

MrBadExample · 05-16-2008, 12:08 PM

I don't think it's rated for 3s, and I wouldn't want to be the one to get magic smoke from my goat system after paying $$$$.

darkstar · 05-16-2008, 12:16 PM

this is true, but it would be interesting to try.

jevyguy · 05-16-2008, 12:19 PM

The specs on novak's web site say it is only good with 4-6 cells or 2s lipo. No go on the 3s lipo, you will get the magic smoke!

Stormin2u · 05-16-2008, 12:22 PM

Why do you need more power? Sorry silly question I forgot this is the "Rock Crawling" form.

I've run 7 cells and the extra voltage didn't make a noticeable differance for the additional weigh so I've just been running 6 cells and I have more than enough wheel speed for my driving style and run time is near 1 hour.

darkstar · 05-16-2008, 12:26 PM

I want the extra power for when I really might need it, more power never hurt anyone!

Charlie · 05-16-2008, 12:56 PM

Howdy,

A customer that is local to us came in with his crawler for a setup issue, noticed he had a 3S pack installed and warned him not to use.

He was fine with the warning and continued to use it. Few weeks later came back with a burned up ESC. So they work, but they won't last. We strongly recommend staying within the recomendations.

thanks
charlie@teamnovak.com

darkstar · 05-16-2008, 01:17 PM

I played on staying with the 2s. I just wanted to know for future reference. I dont plan on frying my expensive combo.

Stormin2u · 05-16-2008, 05:17 PM

darkster, a 6 or 7 cell which is the max recommended, has more than enough power. I don't feel like any other combo out there is any more powerful and still provides the drive ability of the Goat. Even the Cobalts running Lipos or 8 cells don't seem to put out any more torque or wheel speed IMO. I think you made a great choice I haven't seen anything that makes me want to sell my Goat yet.

darkstar · 05-16-2008, 05:25 PM

I'll be testing out the Goat later today... On the settings however, what profile are you running?

Stormin2u · 05-16-2008, 06:26 PM

I have the expo setting right now.

darkstar · 05-16-2008, 06:32 PM

I have mine set at the same as well. how well does the drag brake work as compaired to the rooster?

Stormin2u · 05-16-2008, 07:11 PM

I don't have a rooster but it can be set to lock it up pretty well.

MrBadExample · 05-16-2008, 08:26 PM

Mine is on the factory settings and the drag brake will stop you very well and actually hold you in place in all but the steepest inclines.

Gyyro · 05-16-2008, 08:48 PM

More power? I have had my goat system since Oct. of last year. all I can say is there isn't anything I have come up against that the motor couldn't power through. the drag break is a little weird in the way it works but once your use to it it's manageable.

Gyyro

xirtic · 05-16-2008, 08:55 PM

LOVE my Goat on the 6 cells. TONS of wheel speed. I see no need to go up to 7 cells. My pals running 3 cell lipos on Mamba ESCs and various motors really are not any or much faster....and I love the control afforded by the Goat setup. VERY SMOOTH.

darkstar · 05-16-2008, 10:05 PM

I use Lipo's only right now, so the 2s 1400 ones I have seem to work very well.

roborg5000 · 05-16-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkstar

I use Lipo's only right now, so the 2s 1400 ones I have seem to work very well.

I use a 2s 1500 Electrifly and do just fine. I did lose wheelspeed when changing trannys (Axial to R2D) but thats a just pinion change. I just havent minded what little wheelspeed I lost to regear.

The 3s option would be nice though just for laughs

Stormin2u · 05-17-2008, 08:24 AM

IMO the Novak 18.5 motor with a 6 cell pack can hangs in with the best. I drove my buddies 7t Cobalt on a Lipo pack with big voltage last weekend and it was smooth and powerful I liked driving it. But it was not quite as smooth on startup and it had no more wheel speed than my Goat.

I ran out runners last year and the throttle control at start up was never smooth (cogging) and when I needed just a little more power to drive a obstacle it would always give me more than I wanted. Not true with the Goat it's always well behaved.

I'm also very happy with the built in 6 volt Bec as well. It sends good power to my 5955 Hitec servo without a separate Bec. The entire package is small and weighs less than many other set ups if you compare the whole package. Novak also has good customer service if you need it (my set up was one of the first and has preformed flawlessly) so what's not to like.

05-16-2008, 12:04 PM	#1
darkstar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Redlands Posts: 448	Novak Goat Question I recently installed a Goat system in my crawler yesterday. I currently have a 2s 1330 7.4v Lipo pack. I want to know if it's safe to run a 11.1v 3s pack on it. I've read a few different things on them, and I've heard you can, and you can't.

05-17-2008, 08:24 AM	#19
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	IMO the Novak 18.5 motor with a 6 cell pack can hangs in with the best. I drove my buddies 7t Cobalt on a Lipo pack with big voltage last weekend and it was smooth and powerful I liked driving it. But it was not quite as smooth on startup and it had no more wheel speed than my Goat. I ran out runners last year and the throttle control at start up was never smooth (cogging) and when I needed just a little more power to drive a obstacle it would always give me more than I wanted. Not true with the Goat it's always well behaved. I'm also very happy with the built in 6 volt Bec as well. It sends good power to my 5955 Hitec servo without a separate Bec. The entire package is small and weighs less than many other set ups if you compare the whole package. Novak also has good customer service if you need it (my set up was one of the first and has preformed flawlessly) so what's not to like. Last edited by Stormin2u; 05-17-2008 at 08:47 AM.

05-16-2008, 12:08 PM	#2
MrBadExample Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: my house Posts: 60	I don't think it's rated for 3s, and I wouldn't want to be the one to get magic smoke from my goat system after paying $$$$.

05-16-2008, 12:16 PM	#3
darkstar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Redlands Posts: 448	this is true, but it would be interesting to try.

05-16-2008, 12:19 PM	#4
jevyguy Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 261	The specs on novak's web site say it is only good with 4-6 cells or 2s lipo. No go on the 3s lipo, you will get the magic smoke!

05-16-2008, 12:22 PM	#5
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	Why do you need more power? Sorry silly question I forgot this is the "Rock Crawling" form. I've run 7 cells and the extra voltage didn't make a noticeable differance for the additional weigh so I've just been running 6 cells and I have more than enough wheel speed for my driving style and run time is near 1 hour.

05-16-2008, 12:26 PM	#6
darkstar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Redlands Posts: 448	I want the extra power for when I really might need it, more power never hurt anyone!

05-16-2008, 12:56 PM	#7
Charlie Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hobbywing Posts: 552	Howdy, A customer that is local to us came in with his crawler for a setup issue, noticed he had a 3S pack installed and warned him not to use. He was fine with the warning and continued to use it. Few weeks later came back with a burned up ESC. So they work, but they won't last. We strongly recommend staying within the recomendations. thanks charlie@teamnovak.com

05-16-2008, 01:17 PM	#8
darkstar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Redlands Posts: 448	I played on staying with the 2s. I just wanted to know for future reference. I dont plan on frying my expensive combo.

05-16-2008, 05:17 PM	#9
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	darkster, a 6 or 7 cell which is the max recommended, has more than enough power. I don't feel like any other combo out there is any more powerful and still provides the drive ability of the Goat. Even the Cobalts running Lipos or 8 cells don't seem to put out any more torque or wheel speed IMO. I think you made a great choice I haven't seen anything that makes me want to sell my Goat yet.

05-16-2008, 05:25 PM	#10
darkstar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Redlands Posts: 448	I'll be testing out the Goat later today... On the settings however, what profile are you running?

05-16-2008, 06:26 PM	#11
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	I have the expo setting right now.

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05-16-2008, 06:32 PM	#12
darkstar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Redlands Posts: 448	I have mine set at the same as well. how well does the drag brake work as compaired to the rooster?

05-16-2008, 07:11 PM	#13
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	I don't have a rooster but it can be set to lock it up pretty well.

05-16-2008, 08:26 PM	#14
MrBadExample Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: my house Posts: 60	Mine is on the factory settings and the drag brake will stop you very well and actually hold you in place in all but the steepest inclines.

05-16-2008, 08:48 PM	#15
Gyyro Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kalamazoo Posts: 111	More power? I have had my goat system since Oct. of last year. all I can say is there isn't anything I have come up against that the motor couldn't power through. the drag break is a little weird in the way it works but once your use to it it's manageable. Gyyro

05-16-2008, 08:55 PM	#16
xirtic RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mount Juliet Posts: 1,287	LOVE my Goat on the 6 cells. TONS of wheel speed. I see no need to go up to 7 cells. My pals running 3 cell lipos on Mamba ESCs and various motors really are not any or much faster....and I love the control afforded by the Goat setup. VERY SMOOTH.

05-16-2008, 10:05 PM	#17
darkstar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Redlands Posts: 448	I use Lipo's only right now, so the 2s 1400 ones I have seem to work very well.

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