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intheworks · 02-18-2009, 12:39 AM

i want to get a warrior 2 motor. i feel like my novak 55t is wearing out..

i have all stock axial gearing and running a rooster esc

what will i be happier with a 45t 50t or 55t motor.

i would like a little bit more wheel speed but i dont want to lose torque. whats the torque difference between those motor sizes

pjr · 02-18-2009, 01:49 AM

Ihave tried all those and seem to stick with my 45T Integy the most

intheworks · 02-18-2009, 01:53 AM

whats the torque difference between the 55t and 45t. are you noticing a difference.

the3kid · 02-18-2009, 05:34 AM

55 is just not enough for me...and i'm running a 19tooth pinion. still wheelies, but not enought wheel speed...would say go for a 45t motor

goodoldlevi · 02-18-2009, 05:59 AM

I have had the 55 intigy (to slow) and am currently using a 45 intigy with a 16 pinion and stock 87 spur and it is a much better. However, I have seen a few people running the 35 holmes and thats my new direction with lipo.

Scottish · 02-18-2009, 11:19 AM

i run the 45t and came from a 55t. noticed a little in the smoothness on lowend power but the wheel spd was nicer. I also run only a 2cell 7.4 lipo with stock 14/87 gearing. I would go with the 45t

intheworks · 02-18-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottish

i run the 45t and came from a 55t. noticed a little in the smoothness on lowend power but the wheel spd was nicer. I also run only a 2cell 7.4 lipo with stock 14/87 gearing. I would go with the 45t

got any video of your setup in action

chrisjlittle · 02-19-2009, 12:08 AM

I had a 35t warrior in my old shafty and it was great. I ran 65, 55 and 45t integy lathes in that truck and none of them could touch the torque of the warrior, and the warrior had better drag brake and low speed control. I run 55t integys in my berg now, but torque is far less critical when you have 2 motors, and I'm geared way higher than I had the shafty, so wheelspeed is good. I had 35t's in the berg and it was way too fast.

intheworks · 02-19-2009, 12:20 AM

i just want the most axle breaking torque possible with the rooster crawler esc

arementa1 · 02-19-2009, 05:03 AM

well if you want the torque,with just changing the motor i use a 75turn with a 10t pinion,god the power is great,except for when you wanna bridge a gap,then you fall short.i now use a 75motor,17pinion,87spur has ok speed but soon to try 45t holmes motor,love the rockracer speed.oh by the way if you go the 75/10/87 route?get mip shafts,just a thought,lol

intheworks · 02-19-2009, 05:26 AM

i think this is starting to be a very informative thread for the people like me that want to get the most axle breaking torque from a brushed motor and simple rooster crawler esc. i know how to put gears in axles and and rebuild transfer cases but dont really understand the rc crawler gearing.

thanks for everyones input. glad i havnt made a purchase yet

goodoldlevi · 02-19-2009, 07:30 AM

I watched Gatekeeper's rig at the Crawling for Kids comp in Georgia do high speed dohnuts, flipping on it's lid doing wheelys in the parking lot and I think he was running a 35 HH handwound on lipo and he still had awsome control and torque he would be a good person to ask. Good luck.

mbmlcrawlers · 02-19-2009, 08:51 AM

What battery combo do you use? With the Novak Rooster Crawler your limited to 4-7 cell Ni-Cd/Ni-MH batteries or 2 cell Li-Po? I also run the Novak Rooster Crawler esc. Had the Novak 55t motor with 6 cell 1400 mAh battery and it had good torque, but it was lacking wheel speed. I changed the motor to a Integy Matrix Pro Lathe motor 45T with a 7 cell 1500 mAh saddle pack battery. Works great! Has great power and wheel speed to help in those tough areas!

EHeye · 02-19-2009, 12:15 PM

45T + 2S Lipo + 96/15 gears + WK running gear

Its got plenty of jump with still decent low end torque.

GixxerCrawler · 02-19-2009, 12:43 PM

I had the rooster crawler pack (rooster esc/novak 55t)...it was good, but did not give me the wheel speed i wanted. I changed the gearing..but didn't like the outcome....so I then changed to Tekin 45t motor and kept the same esc....I feel that gives me what I am looking for!!!

chrisjlittle · 02-19-2009, 08:24 PM

If you really want the most axle snapping torque possible with a rooster, the cobalt puller is the clear choice. More wheelspeed too! I'm not even joking here either, the puller makes even the best handwound motor look like a silver can. I briefly ran a 10t geared 21/87 on 3 cell (with a mamba max) and it had enough torque to snap axles on command, and jump. My local hobby shop has a pulling track and a sled which I think weighs 20 pounds, I loaded that thing up with all the weight I could find (probably another 20 pounds) and pulled it all the way down the track. Some of the actual pulling trucks didn't do that

intheworks · 02-19-2009, 11:04 PM

right now i think ima get the Colbalt Puller 500 from holmes hobbies. and order up a swx chassis kit.

lwarc · 02-20-2009, 03:32 AM

I run a losi mini crawler esc with the Novak55T and 1400 ma 1/18 scale pack in my wheely king crawler. With a 14t pinon and 96t spur I snap axles regularly(those buggers are expensive)! :?

Scottish · 02-20-2009, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intheworks

got any video of your setup in action

no sorry i dont .... my truck went as a spare to motoramma for the guys or id film some for you

kasper · 02-20-2009, 10:02 AM

I using the 55 turn and a 60 turn just ordered a 45 turn let you know what i like best i also getting a 7t puller for testing purposes

02-18-2009, 12:39 AM	#1
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	what will i be happier with 45t 50t or 55t i want to get a warrior 2 motor. i feel like my novak 55t is wearing out.. i have all stock axial gearing and running a rooster esc what will i be happier with a 45t 50t or 55t motor. i would like a little bit more wheel speed but i dont want to lose torque. whats the torque difference between those motor sizes

02-20-2009, 03:32 AM	#18
lwarc Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rohnert Park Posts: 178	Axle snapping I run a losi mini crawler esc with the Novak55T and 1400 ma 1/18 scale pack in my wheely king crawler. With a 14t pinon and 96t spur I snap axles regularly(those buggers are expensive)! :?

02-18-2009, 01:49 AM	#2
pjr Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: west carrollton Posts: 107	Ihave tried all those and seem to stick with my 45T Integy the most

02-18-2009, 01:53 AM	#3
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	whats the torque difference between the 55t and 45t. are you noticing a difference.

02-18-2009, 05:34 AM	#4
the3kid Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Suburbs Posts: 406	55 is just not enough for me...and i'm running a 19tooth pinion. still wheelies, but not enought wheel speed...would say go for a 45t motor

02-18-2009, 05:59 AM	#5
goodoldlevi Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 527	I have had the 55 intigy (to slow) and am currently using a 45 intigy with a 16 pinion and stock 87 spur and it is a much better. However, I have seen a few people running the 35 holmes and thats my new direction with lipo.

02-18-2009, 11:19 AM	#6
Scottish Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: E. Concord Posts: 179	i run the 45t and came from a 55t. noticed a little in the smoothness on lowend power but the wheel spd was nicer. I also run only a 2cell 7.4 lipo with stock 14/87 gearing. I would go with the 45t

02-19-2009, 12:08 AM	#8
chrisjlittle RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: BV Posts: 1,170	I had a 35t warrior in my old shafty and it was great. I ran 65, 55 and 45t integy lathes in that truck and none of them could touch the torque of the warrior, and the warrior had better drag brake and low speed control. I run 55t integys in my berg now, but torque is far less critical when you have 2 motors, and I'm geared way higher than I had the shafty, so wheelspeed is good. I had 35t's in the berg and it was way too fast.

02-19-2009, 12:20 AM	#9
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	i just want the most axle breaking torque possible with the rooster crawler esc

02-19-2009, 05:03 AM	#10
arementa1 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: GUAM Posts: 23	well if you want the torque,with just changing the motor i use a 75turn with a 10t pinion,god the power is great,except for when you wanna bridge a gap,then you fall short.i now use a 75motor,17pinion,87spur has ok speed but soon to try 45t holmes motor,love the rockracer speed.oh by the way if you go the 75/10/87 route?get mip shafts,just a thought,lol

02-19-2009, 05:26 AM	#11
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	i think this is starting to be a very informative thread for the people like me that want to get the most axle breaking torque from a brushed motor and simple rooster crawler esc. i know how to put gears in axles and and rebuild transfer cases but dont really understand the rc crawler gearing. thanks for everyones input. glad i havnt made a purchase yet

02-19-2009, 07:30 AM	#12
goodoldlevi Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 527	I watched Gatekeeper's rig at the Crawling for Kids comp in Georgia do high speed dohnuts, flipping on it's lid doing wheelys in the parking lot and I think he was running a 35 HH handwound on lipo and he still had awsome control and torque he would be a good person to ask. Good luck.

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02-19-2009, 08:51 AM	#13
mbmlcrawlers Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Frankfort Posts: 38	What battery combo do you use? With the Novak Rooster Crawler your limited to 4-7 cell Ni-Cd/Ni-MH batteries or 2 cell Li-Po? I also run the Novak Rooster Crawler esc. Had the Novak 55t motor with 6 cell 1400 mAh battery and it had good torque, but it was lacking wheel speed. I changed the motor to a Integy Matrix Pro Lathe motor 45T with a 7 cell 1500 mAh saddle pack battery. Works great! Has great power and wheel speed to help in those tough areas!

02-19-2009, 12:15 PM	#14
EHeye Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mission, BC Posts: 101	45T + 2S Lipo + 96/15 gears + WK running gear Its got plenty of jump with still decent low end torque.

02-19-2009, 12:43 PM	#15
GixxerCrawler Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Santa Rosa Posts: 106	I had the rooster crawler pack (rooster esc/novak 55t)...it was good, but did not give me the wheel speed i wanted. I changed the gearing..but didn't like the outcome....so I then changed to Tekin 45t motor and kept the same esc....I feel that gives me what I am looking for!!!

02-19-2009, 08:24 PM	#16
chrisjlittle RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: BV Posts: 1,170	If you really want the most axle snapping torque possible with a rooster, the cobalt puller is the clear choice. More wheelspeed too! I'm not even joking here either, the puller makes even the best handwound motor look like a silver can. I briefly ran a 10t geared 21/87 on 3 cell (with a mamba max) and it had enough torque to snap axles on command, and jump. My local hobby shop has a pulling track and a sled which I think weighs 20 pounds, I loaded that thing up with all the weight I could find (probably another 20 pounds) and pulled it all the way down the track. Some of the actual pulling trucks didn't do that

02-19-2009, 11:04 PM	#17
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	right now i think ima get the Colbalt Puller 500 from holmes hobbies. and order up a swx chassis kit.

02-20-2009, 10:02 AM	#20
kasper I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: appleton Posts: 2,067	I using the 55 turn and a 60 turn just ordered a 45 turn let you know what i like best i also getting a 7t puller for testing purposes

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