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08-29-2009, 11:00 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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|  I need drag brake, help...
I need drag brake, and I want some kind of programmability, but I don't want to drop a lot of coin. I found these ESCs for the following prices: Castle Sidewinder Micro 1/18th - $44.98 shipped (new) Castle Sidewinder 1/10th - $61.98 shipped (new) Tekin B1R 1/18th - $64.31 shipped (new) Used prices are close, but with the above, I'd get to claim warranty if anything happened, and know it hasn't been abused. I wanted to stay away from the Novaks because the rooster is big and doesn't support 3S (I use 2S now, but plan on upgrading eventually...) The question is, with the Sidewinder Micro at such a low price, should I just get that, or spend the extra $17 and get the 1/10th sidewinder? Is there a different ESC for the same or less than the above that I should know about? This will be used on a 540 size 55t motor, which all three should do just fine, supposedly. By the way, I did search, but it didn't really answer my question... |
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08-30-2009, 11:02 AM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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The sidewinder 1/10 is your best bet for a 540. The other two are borderline on size IMO. They work for a 55t on 2s, but I would not use them with 3s.
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08-30-2009, 12:35 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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Ok, are there any other ESCs to consider for that price? (Would rather get new, but I'd consider used, I know the FX-Rs usually go for $70 used.) | |
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08-30-2009, 02:57 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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The FXR would be my other recommendation.
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09-02-2009, 02:23 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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ok, I'm selling some stuff to finance the new ESC, so now the question is: Is the drag brake on the sidewinder strong enough to work just fine, or should I spend the extra bucks and get the FXR for it's superior drag brake? This is the main reason I'm upgrading my ESC, so I want to make sure I'm getting the right one. |
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09-02-2009, 09:14 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Where did you find that price on the Tekin B1R ??? | |
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09-02-2009, 10:00 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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Well... since I'm not planning on buying it... http://www.rcplanet.com/ProductDetai...TT1081&click=3 Clearance at RC Planet... I can't figure out if I should get a new sidewinder or a used FX-R... | |
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09-02-2009, 10:27 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Thanks, I would alway choose tekin over castle. I own 3 FXRs, I love them. Tekin has the best customer service ! |
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09-02-2009, 10:36 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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Ya, I was always leaning toward the FXR, but the sidewinders are a good price. I posted a wanted thread, so I'll see what people have to offer.
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09-03-2009, 07:04 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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ok, a local guy has a sidewinder 1/10th for $40 that needs the receiver wires re-soldered to the board. I'm comfortable with doing the soldering, but is this a fair price for the ESC? He's also got a broken BEC for $6 that I can send to castle for $6 (plus shipping) to get it serviced. What do you guys think? |
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09-03-2009, 08:20 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia
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The drag brake on the Sidewinder isn't earth-shattering. Especially compared to the FX-R. Having said that, I've got 3 sidewinders (mainly so I can run 4s). I've got one on an Axial and two on a Berg. The Axial runs a 45t motor with a 12t pinion/std spur and the drag brake is more than sufficient, on the Berg (55t motors and 12t pinions) its not that good. Depending on application, the drag brake could be fine.
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09-03-2009, 08:50 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hueytown, Alabama
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X2 I know a few were amazed at the drag brake I was getting at Worlds. It was only set to 50%.  | |
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09-03-2009, 08:52 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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Castle is increasing their drag brake on future firmware releases. They had put a cap on it because it was breaking driveline parts on fast vehicles. 100% was where it wouldn't break parts. Now the 100% will be stronger, possibly twice as strong.
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09-03-2009, 09:04 PM
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| I wanna be Dave  Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho Relaxo. California. USA. Earth.
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When is this new firmware release happening? | |
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09-03-2009, 09:06 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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I am not sure which firmware it will make it into. It is indeed in response to crawlers asking for it. They may just have a crawler checkbox so that fast users don't break parts.
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09-03-2009, 09:15 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia
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Will look forward to that for sure, at present the drag brake is the only thing letting it down.
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09-13-2009, 08:13 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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I just got the sidewinder from another forum member locally, and installed it, set drag brake to 100% and I'm pretty disappointed at the amount of brake. Maybe it's my motor as well, stock axial 55t, but i can push it with not a whole lot of force, as well as on a hill it just rolls back down. Is it because of the motor, or is it how low the drag brake really is, or both? Can't wait for the new firmware... | |||
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09-13-2009, 08:38 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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Both. Mostly the motor though. I can grab my rig and rotate it by the tires with a handwound motor. It slowly creeps.
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09-13-2009, 08:42 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Punta Gorda, Flo-rida
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well it shouldnt be weak, do you have a castle link, is the firmware updated to 2.21beta ( may not be the exact number but should be close). Part of it could be the motor the axials are not the best and even a basic integy 55 turn will hold the car better. I have a 55turn you can try when we meet for the knuckles (cant find the stupid venom ones, i can cut down some berg ones for you though).
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09-13-2009, 11:00 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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Adam - If you can't find the venom knuckles, I'd be fine taking the berg knuckles, but what about the silver knuckles we were talking about (probably GH brand)? As far as the motor, I'd like to try a better motor to see if that makes a difference, because the integys are pretty darn cheap. Edit: While writing this, the same guy I got the sidewinder from has decided to leave the hobby and is selling his integy 45t, as well as other stuff, for a killer price, so I'll probably just get that and call it a day for my drag brake problem. I was going to try to get the 45t anyway, so it works out in the end. | |
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