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09-04-2009, 12:29 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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|  Speed control recommendations
I'm looking for a speed control for my AX10. Not into comp, just bashing around and having fun. I'd like something with a Lipo voltage cutoff and no reverse delay. The drag brake would be nice but don't know if it's really necessary. I also read somewhere that some esc's can do brushed and brushless motors? For now I will probably stick to brushed simply for cost. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks |
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09-04-2009, 12:38 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hueytown, Alabama
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I prefer the Tekin FX-R. It had all that you mentioned except it will only do brushed. http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Tekin-FXR...1-p-16878.html |
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09-04-2009, 01:29 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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Thanks. It looks like a pretty nice esc. I plan to run rear steering also, will the 3A bec be sufficient? |
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09-04-2009, 01:41 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hueytown, Alabama
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As with any ESC out there, if your running a high power servo or two servos, I would suggest getting the CC BEC.  | |
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09-04-2009, 04:15 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Eau Claire
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The CC Sidewinder is also a great choice, and it can do brushed/brushless Castle Sidewinder ESC 69.95 In Stock But with 2 servo you will also need the CC BEC (as you should with any ESC) |
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09-04-2009, 04:50 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Antonio
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I'm new to the whole crawling thing but I have the Tekin FXR and it has not missed a beat and it stays really cool even after 30 min, I run a 1600 2S Lipo 55T Tekin motor.
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09-04-2009, 07:38 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 20 miles southeeast of downtown Sacramento
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The fxr and sidewinder are the two best choice crawler escs out there. The fxr is smaller & lighter with best drag brake and easy programing. The sidewinder is a little cheaper, may be more dependable and will do unsensored brushless (really no good for crawling) but is bigger, heavyer and a pain to program without the extra link hooked to a computer. For bashing/scale the sidewinder is a good choice, for comps/performance the fxr is it Either will do better with a ccbec.
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09-04-2009, 08:01 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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Thanks for all the input. I'll have to review both and make a decision. The fxr looks better being smaller and I'm not too concerned about brushless ability. My main concern is lipo cutoff's. What's the best place to get the CC BEC? |
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09-04-2009, 08:03 AM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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I carry the CC BEC, and can program it too. Most large vendors here carry it as well, it is a useful item.
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09-04-2009, 08:23 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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Thanks, I'll let you know when I'm ready to make the purchase. Is there lots of programming involved? I'm wondering now how much smoother brushless would be. Some people say brushless is much smoother and some say a good brushed motor is just as good. |
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09-04-2009, 08:28 AM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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For crawling, brushed and sensored brushless is smoothest. There isn't a lot of work involved in the programming, but there is the CC link which you would need to purchase. |
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09-04-2009, 12:48 PM
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I see that the FXR is available with a 55T motor for around $100. I haven't found any brushless setups near that price yet so I'm thinking it might be the way to go for now. So the brushed and brushless sensored would be equally as smooth? |
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09-04-2009, 01:44 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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The control could be the same, yes. No low speed cogging. Each particular motor would be a bit different in overall throttle feel.
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09-04-2009, 09:38 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 20 miles southeeast of downtown Sacramento
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The fxr combs are the best bang for the buck out there. I'd go with a 45t over the 55t and run 3 lipo | |
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09-05-2009, 12:08 AM
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I haven't seen any combos with the FXR and 45T, only 55T. Would they both be just as smooth? What would be the advantage of the 45T vs 55T? Probably going with the fxr package, haven't found anything brushless for even close to that price. I was thinking of running 2s lipo, does anything else have to be done with 3s? |
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09-05-2009, 12:38 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hueytown, Alabama
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35t Combo http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Tekin-FXR...6-p-17307.html 45t Combo http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Tekin-FXR...4-p-17375.html If your going to be bashing, I would get a 35t. The lower the wind, the more wheel speed but less torque. If you can, get the hotwire also. It will let you update the ESC easily. You local hobby shop might have one. The only thing you will have to do when going to 3 cell will be to change the cutoff settings. I would suggest the 3s for more wheel speed. | |
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09-06-2009, 10:01 AM
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Thanks Rockcrawler. I don't know how much difference there actually is between the 35, 45 and 55T motors. I want the speed for bashing but how much torque and low speed smoothness will be lost by running the 35 instead of 55T? Either way, the FXR combo looks like the way to go. I also noticed the rooster combos are the same price but have heard the FXR is a better esc. As for the hotwire, is that to connect the esc to a laptop for programming? If so I'd definately want that option. |
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09-06-2009, 10:07 AM
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Thanks Rockcrawler. I don't know how much difference there actually is between the 35, 45 and 55T motors. I want the speed for bashing but how much torque and low speed smoothness will be lost by running the 35 instead of 55T? Either way, the FXR combo looks like the way to go. I also noticed the rooster combos are the same price but have heard the FXR is a better esc. As for the hotwire, looks like a good tool to have. |
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09-06-2009, 10:17 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sittin in the sky
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09-06-2009, 11:32 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fresno
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I just bought a FXR with a 3s lipo, and I have to say its on the money. I run a 35t integy v11 and the low end is super smooth. You can go fast with the 3s lipo, and it gives you better low end contol. The FxR is easy to program. I also own another tekin esc that has worked for 15 years no problems. Drunk |
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