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Old 05-17-2010, 12:32 PM   #1
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I ordered a Novak Crawler 21.5 Brushless motor (NOVM3220)for my Goat 2s setup but the sent me a SS Pro 21.5 Brushless motor(NOVM3421) instead. could these be used? what is the difference? its going in my LCC shafty

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Old 05-17-2010, 01:38 PM   #2
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It looks like the kv is quite a bit higher on the pro (1,350 vs 1,800) but otherwise similar. Why not just contact the vendor and discuss it with them? If they're a reputable seller they'll make it right.

Novak BL motor specs:
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...spec_chart.htm
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:48 PM   #3
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seems like I remember that novak does something different on the crawler motors so the ECS knows it a crawler motor and gives you instant reverse... if you hook up a non crawler motor it reverts to a standard ESC configuration of forward, break, delay then reverse... might look into that because reverse delay SUCK'S.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:51 PM   #4
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i think you are looking at the ballistic motor....acording to that chart they have the same kv (1800), same watts (85), it looks like the only difference is .12oz more weight and green vs. brown timing ring and it looks like the crawler doesn't have the thermal protection
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:53 PM   #5
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seems like I remember that novak does something different on the crawler motors so the ECS knows it a crawler motor and gives you instant reverse... if you hook up a non crawler motor it reverts to a standard ESC configuration of forward, break, delay then reverse... might look into that because reverse delay SUCK'S.

you think? even with the ESC in worm mode (no brake)
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Old 05-17-2010, 02:19 PM   #6
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I think so... I'd give novak a call.

MOTOR COMPATIBILITY
The Goat 2S Crawler is designed for use with sensor-based Novak 540-sized Crawler Brushless Motors -- 13.5T (#3414), 18.5T (#3419) and 21.5T (#3420). Using a Novak SS Pro motor (#3408-#3421) is acceptable, but the ESC will default to an XBR non-crawling default profile. Any motor used must have Thermal Overload Protection, which protects the system from overheating and damage. In fact, the ESC will only operate with brushless motors that have built-in thermal protection that follow ROAR guidelines. This sophisticated feature ensures a fun day at the track without the worry of overheating. For the complete list of compatible motors, click here.

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Old 05-17-2010, 03:11 PM   #7
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um i think so too i wish i had seen that before i posted thanks
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:35 PM   #8
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Using a Novak SS Pro motor (#3408-#3421) is acceptable, but the ESC will default to an XBR non-crawling default profile.


This statement is clear as mud to me... I understand you can run the motor and the ESC will default to a non-crawling profie... does that mean you CANNOT program it to a crawler profile or just you HAVE to program it instead of the motor telling the ESC

Either way it would be best to KNOW before you hook up the motor and possible ruin the chance of returning it

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Old 05-17-2010, 05:53 PM   #9
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i asked novak about that and they said no it just puts it into non-crawler mode
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:05 PM   #10
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So you can't program the ESC for crawler mode using that motor? your stuck with reverse delay? Novak makes darn sure you use thier products exactly how they want you too...

Any chance you can return it? maybe they will ship the correct motor the second time
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There is no way to force the esc into crawler mode. If I knew that I wouldn't have bought it: http://web1.rccrawler.com/forum/show...ght=Novak+goat
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