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12-22-2010, 07:19 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Big Island
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|  Budget Friendly Brush-less Setup
I'm looking for a budget friendly brush less set up for an scx10 it will be used for crawling and bashing. I'm pretty sure I'll be going with the sidewinder esc but I still have no clue about what motor to get.
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12-22-2010, 10:05 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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If you are looking to crawl at all with a sensorless ESC, you need an outrunner. I have Revolver motors on sale if you are interested in something that will bolt in that has a proven track record.
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12-22-2010, 10:34 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Big Island
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12-23-2010, 12:07 AM
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| Rock Crawler  Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Commiskey
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Your not going to gain anything running a brushless motor and brushed tend to be more water friendly. Your choice of ESC is fine, I run a Sidewinder myself in my scaler and it's perfect. I had the Goat 2S/21.5 combo in another and didnt loose anything switching to a brushed motor. The prefered combo for the SCX-10 is either the Sidewinder or Holmes and a hand wound 35 turn brushed motor. |
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12-23-2010, 01:03 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Big Island
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I was going to go brushed with the setups you mentioned but I like the idea of brushless, better speed, run times and lower maintenance. I doubt I'll be running in any water although it would be fun and I don't really need the crawling advantage brushed has. | |
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12-23-2010, 07:47 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Commiskey
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Actually I gained speed going from a 21.5 turn brushless to a 35 turn brushed. It runs about as fast as a box stock 2WD Slash.
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12-23-2010, 08:39 AM
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| I wanna be Dave  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tax Nation
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a decent sensorless brushless motor is allot more water/mud friendly than a brushed motor. I watched Mnster run his (HH) outrunner powered truck about 15' into lake michigan. The only thing that stopped it was the sand that jammed the gears. Ive personally ran my outrunners through some slop that would kill a lesser motor and have ran them on my outboard boats (which get soaked with spray) with 0 problem. My 700bb powered outboards (brushed) have to be cleaned and lubed after every run or they will freeze up with rust and corosion.
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12-23-2010, 12:39 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: reelsville
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Sensored is water friendly if done right also, I can see a 21.5 and a 35 being about equal in speed, but it would take shitty tires and a loose slipper to not notice the torque drop unless you also went from 2 to 3s at the same time. I started with a 2s goat 18.5 combo, when the sensor harness gave up the ghost before a comp one morning I had to buy a 45t from a local, god damn that was lame and boring. One course and I was looking for a 3s pack to borrow and didn't care if it blew my ESC or not cause I wouldn't gonna drive with that lame ass power. I couldn't even dig on smooth concrete cause there wasn't enough speed to do anything but pull the rear along behind and it bound up every time I had traction. I could break CVD's and dogbones at will with the brushless on 2s and even going to 3s the 45 didn't completely catch up and wheelspeed was still down. Now that ESC is in my scaler and after a good waterproofing I ditched the reedy 27t I had for a 13.5 and gained torque, smoothness and wheelspeed. If your gonna go brushless the MMP is the best ESC by far. Last edited by indiana mudcat; 12-23-2010 at 12:44 PM. |
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12-23-2010, 02:16 PM
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12-23-2010, 06:05 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greeley
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Mamba Max Pro, Goat, Losi, Associated, I think Tekin also. Go to Holmes Hobbies.....http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...&cat=17&page=1 this motor combined with his speed cntrl will do it all. Speed, crawling and waterproof | |
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12-23-2010, 06:08 PM
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12-24-2010, 03:20 AM
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12-24-2010, 11:18 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greeley
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12-24-2010, 02:20 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas where its too damn hot!
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rc4wd has the outcry combo for 99.99 its a good price considering i payed 179 for the novak combo heres the link http://store.rc4wd.com/Outcry-High-P...m-_p_1115.html |
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12-25-2010, 03:12 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Big Island
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Well guys after doing hours of searching and watching videos on youtube I think I might just have to go brushed with a HH BR-XL and a 35t on 3s. I've seen a couple videos of 35t's and the speed is definitely enough for me, and the price of this set up is really good too. If there's any cheap motors you guys recommend getting please let me know also if there's any you don't recommend lmk.  |
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12-25-2010, 03:50 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Commiskey
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Pick up a HH 35 turn HW. Dont cheepout on the motor now, you'll be glad later that you didnt.
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