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Old 02-15-2011, 04:39 AM   #1
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Default Castle Creations Sidewinder SV2

I currently run a sidewinder V1 in my SCX10, and it is paired to an SR300 RX, along with my Spektrum DX3R TX.
I purchased a sidewinder V2 and am trying to install it into my Tamiya Subaru 4wd car.

1. I have made the connections to the brushed motor (no white motor wire connected).
2. I have bound my RX to my TX. (another SR300)
3. I have tried using my Castle Link to update the firmware and change settings for brushed motor usage. (currently at 1.31 BETA)
4. I have a Savox SC-1258 steering servo running off of the internal BEC power from the ESC through the RX.

problems:

1. If I turn the steering slowly, there seems to be no issue. But, when I turn quickly, you can see the LED on the RX is going out and coming back on cyclicly, and the servo is attempting to turn but fails...also cyclicly.

2. My motor has not once twitched. I get no movement at all. I have tried this on the motor in the car, as well as the motor that is hooked up in my SCX10.

I have emailed Castle Creations about this problem, and hopefully will get some answers soon.

I also know that this SV2 ESC is modeled after the new SCT sidewinder, supposedly having more power and a few other options within by means of the Castle Link.

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Old 02-15-2011, 06:47 AM   #2
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Use the white wire for your ground, there is a firmware issue. Castle said it should be fixed in the next link update.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:00 AM   #3
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Thanks mate....that fixed half of the problem right there. Let us hope that the new firmware will fix the internal BEC issue.
For now I will just have to buy another external BEC.

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Thanks mate....that fixed half of the problem right there. Let us hope that the new firmware will fix the internal BEC issue.
For now I will just have to buy another external BEC.

Casey

For future reference Beta means its in still in the "Try out phase". You do have the option to choose which update you choose to update to.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:57 AM   #5
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For future reference Beta means its in still in the "Try out phase". You do have the option to choose which update you choose to update to.


Oh really? Hahaha. Thanks mate. I tried all of them. There are 3 optional firmwares within the Castle link. 1.29 was on the device when I received it, and 1.30 and 1.31 are both BETA.

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Old 02-16-2011, 08:17 AM   #6
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What batteries are you running? Anything over 2S lipo and you are sure to need a BEC. Even 2S will have issues, but not as likely on 3S. Castle ESCs (like most) have a linear internal BEC, and the more voltage you put into the ESC, the more likely the BEC will cut out.

Just get a BEC and call it good, and never worry about it again.
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What batteries are you running? Anything over 2S lipo and you are sure to need a BEC. Even 2S will have issues, but not as likely on 3S. Castle ESCs (like most) have a linear internal BEC, and the more voltage you put into the ESC, the more likely the BEC will cut out.

Just get a BEC and call it good, and never worry about it again.

I was sayin that about the BETA cause I always wondered too. So I did some checkin one night. Computer guys use that term. Basically they are "fixing" a problem with the previous programming and using us as the Ginea Pigs. Just passing on this newly found info so if you ever reprogram your controller and end up having a problem you can always go back to the previos version.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:13 PM   #8
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My SV2 wont take new firmware and I got the damn thing yesterday. And to top it off, it did take throttle curve update and it dosent work at all. nothing. I'm so pissed off. Now what?!
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My SV2 wont take new firmware and I got the damn thing yesterday. And to top it off, it did take throttle curve update and it dosent work at all. nothing. I'm so pissed off. Now what?!
So, you got it, plugged it into your Castle Link, it showed 1.29 firmware, and you go to update it, and it wont let you?

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Greg @ CC got mine working today....just give them a call
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:49 PM   #11
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I will, my thread just above discribes the issues. I just cant believe it, I have all castle esc's and this is the first hikup I have had.
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Okay, it took new settings and firmware on the 23rd try. The motor still wont work. Any ideas?
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Okay, it took new settings and firmware on the 23rd try. The motor still wont work. Any ideas?
As mentioned above, use the red wire and white wire...not the red and black.

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Old 02-17-2011, 09:53 PM   #14
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Alright yeah, it works with white. I cut it off at the board. Good thing I do ciruit boards Its good to go, thanks to all. This thread was very informative.
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I just ordered another CC BEC, and will have it in a couple days. That should get my system working good with no more glitching. Funny thing is, I will only use this ESC for about 10 days....then my Losi Xcelorin BL setup will be replacing this setup.
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Is the BEC suspect or is the servo pulling too much juice?
How do you know when a CC SW is a v2 vs a v1?
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Is the BEC suspect or is the servo pulling too much juice?
How do you know when a CC SW is a v2 vs a v1?
From what I have heard...if you run a battery over 7.4 volts (such as a 3S lipo which is all I use) then the internal BEC has an issue. Not sure why...but a BEC will fix this.

As for the version...if you have a V2, you know it...it says it in Red and Yellow right on the case and box. These are brand new. You and Cameron have the V1s...I promise.

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I was on 3s, but also have a BEC running the servo.
Is the issue an over voltage to the ESC?

I need a second BEC between the battery and the ESC?
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I was on 3s, but also have a BEC running the servo.
Is the issue an over voltage to the ESC?

I need a second BEC between the battery and the ESC?
No, you are misunderstanding. If you have a BEC paired with your sidewinder, you are ok. Basically, if you run a 3S lipo with your Sidewinder, you need to have a BEC powering your servo....same wiring as has been shown many times. But for reference, here.

Just disregard the second servo in this pic.

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Old 02-24-2011, 08:55 AM   #20
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Great info on the SV2 guys. Thanks a bunch.
I only use Sidewinders in my crawlers running 3s lipo. I like the versatility the Sidewinder provides.
You definitely need to run a BEC with this ESC. Otherwise the ESC can't handle the power needed for a servo under stress.
Remember a good steering servo will pull more amperage than the Sidewinder is rated for causing it to "timeout", "brown out" or whatever you want to call it. Very frustrating but the BEC takes care of that problem.

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