02-23-2011, 10:58 PM | #1 |
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| AM Radio Problems! DO NOT REPLY WITH "Buy a 2.4Ghz radio system"!!! This is a thread for fixing or improving AM or FM radios! So here's the deal I've had AM radios for years and never really had many problems/twitches. My rustler e-revo emaxx etc NEVER had twitches unless I rubbed the antenna on some metal or something stupid. Although this radio in my crawler is angry. 5 ft and it gets the jitters, 6 more inches and it jumps around uncontrollably. I've tried everything i could think of, different crystals, longer antenna, batteries, different antenna positions, checked all the solder joints in the TX and RX. I'm stumped. Any advice? |
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02-23-2011, 11:09 PM | #2 | |
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02-23-2011, 11:16 PM | #3 |
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02-23-2011, 11:16 PM | #4 |
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Hmm, I suppose it could be a faulty receiver. It certainly hasn't had an easy life. Just a FYI it is a traxxas micro RX paired to a TQ3. I'll have to try a different RX. You're a funny guy |
02-24-2011, 05:21 AM | #5 |
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My guess is that electrical arcing coming from the motor is causing the glitching. Do you capacitors installed on the motor? Assuming your not using a brand new motor, you should also cut the motor comm brushes and replace the brushes. Finally, try running the Rx from a separate battery pack (vs using your ESC's BEC). Narly1 |
02-24-2011, 08:47 AM | #6 | |
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The older AM/FM radios were VERY sensitive to antenna length & quality. They were also horrible on picking up electrical noise. -Caps on the motor are a MUST DO! -Doing a freshening on the motor may help (do you see arcing off the comm when the motor is running?) -Try to keep the antenna away from the ESC as well as motor wires. Swapping in a different RX would be good to try. Is this a recent event, or has this always been an issue with this rig? If recent, what is different? | |
02-24-2011, 11:42 AM | #7 |
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Sounds like the samething I am going tru. And with a traxxas TQ radio. And I tryed a few things. But I just gave up and ordered a cheapo 2.4 radio from hobbyking for $27 shipped. Will be here next week. Good luck!!!!
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02-24-2011, 12:07 PM | #8 |
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try new crystals. The RX crystal can be easily damaged in a hard impact.
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02-24-2011, 12:22 PM | #9 |
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02-24-2011, 02:00 PM | #10 |
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02-24-2011, 02:31 PM | #11 |
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| I know he did. I used to see people come in the LHS I worked at with crystal issues and they were trying crystals that had been floating around in their tool boxes. That's why I said "new" crystals. They are just really thin, small slivers of quartz so they damage really easy.
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02-24-2011, 03:49 PM | #12 |
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| OK, I will accept this as a valid answer...."some" consider this a permanent fix which I DON'T agree with. |
02-24-2011, 04:01 PM | #13 | |
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We will have to wait and see what the OP has to say. | |
02-24-2011, 04:34 PM | #14 |
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Check the servo harness very carefully
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02-24-2011, 06:53 PM | #15 |
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Woah! Lots of replies, good to see! I have 1 cap on the motor (PO never installed the other 2?) almost brand new motor zero arcing. It has always been a problem with this rig. Although it has recently gotten worse when I rebuilt the whole truck. I must be due to the close placement to the esc. I'm going to due a bit of troubleshooting with a known good system tonight and get back to you guys. This receiver used to be in my brothers merv. He changed from a glitch that sent $500 straight toward a rolling tire. So I could be dealing with a lemon. If all else fails I'll just "share" ;) the 2.4 radio in another car.. Thank you for all of the suggestions! None will be overlooked. |
02-24-2011, 07:06 PM | #16 |
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Why fight technology? 2.4 systems are cheap now.
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02-24-2011, 07:12 PM | #17 |
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| +1. I have 2 Futaba Magnum Jr's....both crystal radios that work well. My 2.2 Bully rig has the Futaba 3PM-x to run a single ESC and a servo dig. I plan on buying more RX's so I can swap out ALL my RC vehicles to a single TX. |
02-24-2011, 07:42 PM | #18 |
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Because I can, that's about it. I couldn't agree more. I was simply trying to fix this system while helping others who may have radio problems. |
02-25-2011, 06:55 AM | #19 |
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Not many running crystals anymore, especially in crawlers. People are amazed when I go carpet racing with my early 80's (?) Magnum Jr's. I bought the 3PM-x so I can ditch multiple radios, save model memories (instead of tweaking things when I change vehicles), not deal with frequency conflicts (although not much anymore, most are running 2.4ghz), etc. I happen to really like Futaba, so that is why I went 3PM-x. Good luck on your troubleshooting, hopefully it's not a bad RX. (PS, my 1st Futaba was the beige box with the trigger off the back, I still have 2 of those!) |
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