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09-12-2012, 08:26 PM | #1 |
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| 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors?
I would like some info on this new motor that has just currently been run at nationals! |
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09-12-2012, 09:25 PM | #2 |
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| Re: 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors?
The conflux is a new motor can I have coming out. They are still about a month away. They are basically a Vapor on crack, as the can is machined from Billet steel instead of being a lathed down stock can. They will be available in different thickness with a host of new and exciting options available. The ones ran at nats were the thinnest versions that will be available, which put their weight at about 23g....stock can without magnets weighs about 42g or so... The arms are still the same, lots of options available....though some new ones are about to appear. Currently they will be available with the Ti endbell, though a new endbell may follow. They will be listed on the site in the next few weeks... Later EddieO |
09-12-2012, 10:07 PM | #3 |
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| Re: 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors?
2 motors almost lighter then one.. wow...
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09-12-2012, 10:24 PM | #4 |
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What is the total weight of one of these?
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09-12-2012, 10:36 PM | #5 |
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*edit* I stand corrected lmao
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09-12-2012, 10:46 PM | #6 |
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| Re: 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors?
A built motor weighs a little over 5 oz....normal motors weigh over 6...so these, like the Vapors are about an ounce lighter. 23g is the can weight without bearings or magnet....a stock can is about 41-44g depending on the exact can. Waiting on measurements for the other thickness cans, as they have been planned for a while, but with everyone on the full light kick, I did not have any made in the intial run. People who want a more efficient motor can choose the thicker cans, which will also alter the powerband and braking too. Just another way to fine tune the motor, along with all the new options we will be offering....think stuff is confusing now, wait till you see the new option list The conflux can design will be the basis of the stubby if I choose to produce it (still some production issues to work out) along with three other new motors.....parts are ordered, just waiting on shipment! Later EddieO |
09-13-2012, 09:19 AM | #7 |
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| Re: 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors?
Were these at Nats running? If so how did these motors perform at Nats? Is there an improvement over a stock lathed down can like a Vapor? Are they heat treated/tempered after being machined to prevent problems? Or of a material already treated? |
09-13-2012, 09:33 AM | #8 |
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| Re: 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors? Rowdy ran these in his trucks (2.2s and 2.2p). Yeah, they were bad ass! |
09-13-2012, 09:45 AM | #9 |
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| Re: 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors?
There were 4 pairs of Conflux running at nats in 2.2pro....One pair got some nasty dents (casey likes to jump and fall from crazy heights) so we tried a temp glue fix on the loose magnet.....held all the way till the last course, like gate 8 and it came loose again....he still finished and it didn't cost him any points (I think he said he had low score on that course too). Pdog ran a pair, won the LCQ with them....but he slammed his pretty hard on the last course he ran, knocked a magnet loose. The magnets coming loose was more my fault than anything......as I probably should of let them cure another day before mailing them....failures are expected in prototypes, but really was on me.....I am human after all. Even in both pairs that had a magnet come loose (happens in 4 magnet motors all the time) both drivers loved them. I'll be switching to a different gluing process for the final production, so if a magnet comes loose in the future, the user needs to be nicer to his stuff. Harvo and Racer_zh both ran them to top 10 finishes with no issues.....both of their motors got the extra time to cure(see, my fault).. Rowdy ran a pair of the stubby version in his 2.2pro....no issues, along with another stubby version in his 2.2s. I had a regular version in my 2.2s, which was clearly the difference in me not getting dead last There is multiple improvements over the Vapor cans....all will be described on the site when we are closer to releasing them....they will however be more expensive than a vapor. Like I said though, Vapor on crack... I don't think heat treating is really needed, though I will look into it....regular cans are not heat treated, just simply stamped metal... Later EddieO |
09-13-2012, 10:19 AM | #10 |
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09-13-2012, 10:26 AM | #11 |
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My motor outran rowdys......lol |
09-13-2012, 10:29 AM | #12 |
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09-13-2012, 10:32 AM | #13 |
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Lol it was the best time of the weekend that event was cool....... It was good to meet ya |
09-13-2012, 11:29 AM | #14 |
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I'll be saving my pennies for a pair of these!!! |
09-13-2012, 01:47 PM | #15 |
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I saw one of them at nats, they were very pretty cans Have you tried any industrial glues for the mags yet? Henkel makes some great room temp cure ones.
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09-13-2012, 02:08 PM | #16 |
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Just the normal stuff I use on other stuff, which I've never had problems before. I knew I should of let them sit another day....plus after the first popped loose, I figured out part of the problem. I have some crazy nuclear stuff already, just was not feasible to use on the prototypes. Later EddieO |
09-13-2012, 04:46 PM | #17 |
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The Elmers used in mine is holding like a champ. |
09-13-2012, 06:24 PM | #18 |
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09-14-2012, 08:37 PM | #19 |
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I just need to know when me and the rest of the common folks will be able to get some of these. I was able to watch some of these run while judging and it was very intriguing. I asked Rowdy about them and he told me that anything less would be "UNCIVILIZED".
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09-14-2012, 10:08 PM | #20 |
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| Re: 30t skewed arm brood conflux motors?
The conflux will be available in about a month..... The stubby, I dunno still at this point... The price is a bit nutty for a set of motors... Later EddieO |
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