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Reflection · 09-03-2006, 10:40 PM

Just kidding.

Seriously though,I modded my TQ3 for indy rear steer last night. I had my truck out today for quite a while trying to get used to it. It just doesn't seem comfortable to me. Honestly,I like my fulltime 4WS better but I can see that indy rear would be nice in a comp. I'll start by saying I SUCK at electronics. What I think would be AWESOME,is if you could wire it so when the toggle is in the center it's 4WS. Then you hit the toggle to the left and the rear only turns left,hit it right and the rear only turns right. While all this is going on at the rear axle,the wheel on the TQ3 still controls the front axle by itself like always. Might be a dumb question,can it be done? The way I'm thinking about it,probly not. Just thought I'd ask anyway for the hell of it. Maybe some odd funked up way somebody knows how to wire it up. Like I said,I know jack crap about electronics and how to manipulate them.

Would a stick radio be better? Could you program it for something simular to my Picasso masterpiece?

ON THE FARM · 09-03-2006, 10:53 PM

when the toggle switch is in the center you want 4ws?
i dont know if that can be done with all the other movements you want.
just set the toggle switch up on top of the tx just above the wheel, hit it with your index finger to the left when you want and to the left. it is alot nicer than having it at your thumb.

slobin3d · 09-03-2006, 10:58 PM

invest in a good 3 channel radio like the dx3 and you can program most all that stuff in their factory mixes, or go all out and get a used M8, R-1, or other high end radio

Reflection · 09-03-2006, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ON THE FARM

when the toggle switch is in the center you want 4ws?

It'd be nice,like I said though,the way I'm thinkin about it it can't be done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ON THE FARM

i dont know if that can be done with all the other movements you want.

Like my 2 year old nephew said eairlier.....why not

Don't answer that,I just got tickled at him a second ago and couldn't resist

Quote:

Originally Posted by ON THE FARM

just set the toggle switch up on top of the tx just above the wheel, hit it with your index finger to the left when you want and to the right. it is alot nicer than having it at your thumb.

Nah,I'm done with toggles. Nomatter where it's at it'll still be a toggle. The more I think about it,I don't think a toggle is gonna give me all the choices I want. Maybe I could grow 4 more fingers and then install 3 different toggles

Reflection · 09-03-2006, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slobin3d

invest in a good 3 channel radio like the dx3 and you can program most all that stuff in their factory mixes, or go all out and get a used M8, R-1, or other high end radio

Thats an option. I'm sure theres high end radios that'll do what I want. Before I bought one though,I'd have to touch it,feel it,rub it, Oh wait,wrong forum. I'd have to make damn sure it would do what I wanted and was comfortable to me and VERY simple to use before I bought one. Can't get much simpler that a TQ3 with fulltime 4WS,that about how simple I want it.

S-Dog · 09-03-2006, 11:24 PM

I used 2 buttons instead of a toggleon my TQ3.... made all the world of difference. It was WAY easier to get used to...and it was more comfy.

slobin3d · 09-04-2006, 01:33 PM

what you need to do is get sponsered by JR and get a free R-1, oh wait thats me lol. yes i agree the feel of a radio makes a huge differance as well as ease of programming. my r-1 was a pita to program till i figured out what all the abbreviations where. Ive heard nothin but great things about the airtronics M8 Ive asked around about the M11 and most everyone ive talked to PRO's and local racers alike seem to say its too complicated. the futaba 3pk is nice but SPENDY. i dont like the ko ex10/jr z1 its just feels horrible in my hand. Even Jammin Jay himself told me that he would rather have the m8 over the m11 except that their his sponser and he has too

Full Penetration Fab. · 09-06-2006, 03:41 PM

Sounds like you need the set up I saw on ebay, it was a tq3 that I think used the stock toggle to switch from full time 4ws or indepentdent, it had a toggle on the back for independent and you could use the 3rd channel reverser on the bottom to switch from normal 4ws to crab walk. (at least I think thats how it was, the add isnt up any more)

Cubman · 09-06-2006, 05:02 PM

I think it was called the UTQ3? Ultimate TQ3, but I think it was approx. $100.

EDIT: http://www.rcbackyard.com/utq3.htm

Full Penetration Fab. · 09-06-2006, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubman

I think it was called the UTQ3? Ultimate TQ3, but I think it was approx. $100.

EDIT: http://www.rcbackyard.com/utq3.htm

Yeah but it wouldnt be too hard to copy if you knew what you were doing

gasshead · 09-06-2006, 06:44 PM

i used a spare trim nob thing for my tq3 its like having a small steering wheel for my thumb

thorn4run · 09-20-2006, 11:21 AM

Raptorman57 I know you pain. I would like to set up a system that when you turn left the rear goes left, turn right rear goes right (crab walk) then be able to change to normal 4WS. I'm thinking of trying to set up a TQ3 so that I can just flip a switch and reverse the rear servo so it will turn the same direction as the front till I switch it back. Wich meens I may not even use the red switch on the handle. I'll have to tap into the servo-reversing switch.

Reflection · 09-22-2006, 10:15 PM

I don't know about adding anything else to the TQ3. I'm gonna try a stick radio first. I was talking with Mike (owner of my LHS) about it. He let me take a,new in the box,Futaba 4 channel stick radio home with me to try out. I thought that was pretty cool of him. I'll try to get it set up tommorrow and see how it turns out.

rockwerks · 09-22-2006, 10:22 PM

I installed an old steering pot from a broken futabla pistol grip radio. it is 100% proportional woth or crab and stays where you leave the knob. The same pot costs under 3.00 at radio shack

Thorsteenster · 10-15-2006, 08:51 AM

if you can setup like your picasso masterpiece diag, that would be sweet with a shift gate like they had for the bruiser!

Big Mike · 12-13-2006, 12:37 PM

At first I did the simple trimmable y-harness, but I thought that full time 4 wheel steering worked against me as often as with me. So I opted for a 3 channel set up, but I like the rear steering to reset itself to center when unattended. If I have to concentrate on centering the rear myself it'll screw me up. I settled on 2 momentary pushbuttons, one left one right, when both are open the steering centers itself. I really only use it occaisionally to gain traction in tough spots, or to crabwalk into a line if I need to.
If I had to choose between full-time 4WS or no rear steer at all, I'd take no rear steer. Full-time 4WS works against you too much.
Thats the best part of independant 4WS - the ability to crabwalk at will. Very helpful in tough terrain...

Mr Badwrench · 12-18-2006, 06:36 AM

I think I know how to do this.... but Im not as smart as Id like to be...

http://www.veetail.com/Omni.html

Ive read everythign we want in one device... just need to figure out how to use it properly.

09-03-2006, 10:40 PM	#1
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	Independant rear steer sucks Just kidding. Seriously though,I modded my TQ3 for indy rear steer last night. I had my truck out today for quite a while trying to get used to it. It just doesn't seem comfortable to me. Honestly,I like my fulltime 4WS better but I can see that indy rear would be nice in a comp. I'll start by saying I SUCK at electronics. What I think would be AWESOME,is if you could wire it so when the toggle is in the center it's 4WS. Then you hit the toggle to the left and the rear only turns left,hit it right and the rear only turns right. While all this is going on at the rear axle,the wheel on the TQ3 still controls the front axle by itself like always. Might be a dumb question,can it be done? The way I'm thinking about it,probly not. Just thought I'd ask anyway for the hell of it. Maybe some odd funked up way somebody knows how to wire it up. Like I said,I know jack crap about electronics and how to manipulate them. Would a stick radio be better? Could you program it for something simular to my Picasso masterpiece? Attached Images

09-03-2006, 10:53 PM	#2
ON THE FARM Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NORTH TEXAS Posts: 202	when the toggle switch is in the center you want 4ws? i dont know if that can be done with all the other movements you want. just set the toggle switch up on top of the tx just above the wheel, hit it with your index finger to the left when you want and to the left. it is alot nicer than having it at your thumb. Last edited by ON THE FARM; 09-03-2006 at 11:11 PM.

12-18-2006, 06:36 AM	#17
Mr Badwrench Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West salem Posts: 44	RWS idea I think I know how to do this.... but Im not as smart as Id like to be... http://www.veetail.com/Omni.html Ive read everythign we want in one device... just need to figure out how to use it properly.

09-03-2006, 10:58 PM	#3
slobin3d I'm a stupid C U N T! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the Garage! Posts: 4,307	invest in a good 3 channel radio like the dx3 and you can program most all that stuff in their factory mixes, or go all out and get a used M8, R-1, or other high end radio

09-03-2006, 11:24 PM	#6
S-Dog Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Burrillville, RI Posts: 778	I used 2 buttons instead of a toggleon my TQ3.... made all the world of difference. It was WAY easier to get used to...and it was more comfy.

09-04-2006, 01:33 PM	#7
slobin3d I'm a stupid C U N T! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the Garage! Posts: 4,307	what you need to do is get sponsered by JR and get a free R-1, oh wait thats me lol. yes i agree the feel of a radio makes a huge differance as well as ease of programming. my r-1 was a pita to program till i figured out what all the abbreviations where. Ive heard nothin but great things about the airtronics M8 Ive asked around about the M11 and most everyone ive talked to PRO's and local racers alike seem to say its too complicated. the futaba 3pk is nice but SPENDY. i dont like the ko ex10/jr z1 its just feels horrible in my hand. Even Jammin Jay himself told me that he would rather have the m8 over the m11 except that their his sponser and he has too

09-06-2006, 03:41 PM	#8
Full Penetration Fab. Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Paradise Posts: 145	Sounds like you need the set up I saw on ebay, it was a tq3 that I think used the stock toggle to switch from full time 4ws or indepentdent, it had a toggle on the back for independent and you could use the 3rd channel reverser on the bottom to switch from normal 4ws to crab walk. (at least I think thats how it was, the add isnt up any more)

09-06-2006, 05:02 PM	#9
Cubman Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oak Ridge Posts: 590	I think it was called the UTQ3? Ultimate TQ3, but I think it was approx. $100. EDIT: http://www.rcbackyard.com/utq3.htm

09-06-2006, 06:44 PM	#11
gasshead Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: High Point Posts: 188	i used a spare trim nob thing for my tq3 its like having a small steering wheel for my thumb

09-20-2006, 11:21 AM	#12
thorn4run Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rapid City Posts: 146	Raptorman57 I know you pain. I would like to set up a system that when you turn left the rear goes left, turn right rear goes right (crab walk) then be able to change to normal 4WS. I'm thinking of trying to set up a TQ3 so that I can just flip a switch and reverse the rear servo so it will turn the same direction as the front till I switch it back. Wich meens I may not even use the red switch on the handle. I'll have to tap into the servo-reversing switch.

09-22-2006, 10:15 PM	#13
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	I don't know about adding anything else to the TQ3. I'm gonna try a stick radio first. I was talking with Mike (owner of my LHS) about it. He let me take a,new in the box,Futaba 4 channel stick radio home with me to try out. I thought that was pretty cool of him. I'll try to get it set up tommorrow and see how it turns out.

09-22-2006, 10:22 PM	#14
rockwerks I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: FLAGSTAFF Posts: 3,728	I installed an old steering pot from a broken futabla pistol grip radio. it is 100% proportional woth or crab and stays where you leave the knob. The same pot costs under 3.00 at radio shack

10-15-2006, 08:51 AM	#15
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	if you can setup like your picasso masterpiece diag, that would be sweet with a shift gate like they had for the bruiser!

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12-13-2006, 12:37 PM	#16
Big Mike I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Martinsburg WV Posts: 2,781	At first I did the simple trimmable y-harness, but I thought that full time 4 wheel steering worked against me as often as with me. So I opted for a 3 channel set up, but I like the rear steering to reset itself to center when unattended. If I have to concentrate on centering the rear myself it'll screw me up. I settled on 2 momentary pushbuttons, one left one right, when both are open the steering centers itself. I really only use it occaisionally to gain traction in tough spots, or to crabwalk into a line if I need to. If I had to choose between full-time 4WS or no rear steer at all, I'd take no rear steer. Full-time 4WS works against you too much. Thats the best part of independant 4WS - the ability to crabwalk at will. Very helpful in tough terrain...

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