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wally187 · 01-14-2005, 05:30 PM

i was wondering what is the best way to make one of the motors work in reverse rotation. i just bought a set of integy 55t lathe motors and asume i need to make one reverse? is it as simple as wiring it up backwards? they are going in my clod crawler with 9 tooth pinions, super rooster, hitec digital servos and a 1100 rx pack. do you guys think this will be a good setup? my run times right now are weak, maybe 5 minutes. i am using stock motors, stock pinions and no rx pack. thanks for any help...

JohnRobHolmes · 01-14-2005, 07:37 PM

you are correct on all accounts. reverse the wires to make the motor reverse. your setup sounds like you did your homework- it is almost exactly my setup and mine works great.

one_big_jeep · 01-18-2005, 09:57 AM

well am I not correct in thinking that the motor will be timed in -15deg timing if you simply Just reverse polarity?

Would it not be better to get Mod motors and just reverse One motors pol. and then re-time them (per the degree markings on the motor) both at say +15deg for stand rotation, and -15 at reverse?

That way they both are turning the correct dirrection as well as being timed the same deg?

JohnRobHolmes · 01-18-2005, 06:31 PM

i didnt know lathe motors had any timing. i was under the assumption that they were 0 degrees. you always want neutral timing on crawlers, so that you have as much reverse power as forward.

if in fact it did have timing, the reverse rotation one would need to be negatively timed so that it would be the same speed and current draw.

WRMorrison · 01-18-2005, 07:15 PM

I wonder, if a person lived south of the equator, would they still have to reverse the wires?

SPEED_RACER · 01-19-2005, 06:29 PM

if indought email integy and give them the motor # and ask them directly if those motors are at 0 degree or if in fact they are timed.they do reply to questions asked as i had one about a bat charger i had gotten in a deal and told me what i needed to know

wally187 · 01-21-2005, 07:01 PM

i will try emailing them and see what happens. thanks for all your guys help...

AdamF · 01-23-2005, 05:45 PM

I reversed the wiring on mine and it works just fine.

Ace · 01-23-2005, 06:27 PM

I just reversed polarity in mine, worked great. If the 55's have advanced/retarded timing they sure don't seem to mind which way they turn..

I just did a quick test, hooked up a lathe motor to power and then reversed polarity. RPM stayed the same so I'd say they are 0deg. Also, every motor I've seen with timing, the brushes are not 90deg to the mounting holes (middle of magnets) The lathe motors are dead on 90*

I put two of these in my e-maxx with two of the biggest cogs I could find. Thing was pretty fast. I finally got tired of running my emaxx before the batteries died!

They broke a rear halfshaft before the battery died so I don't know how long it woulda ran but at least 30 minutes and the motors were barely warm.

I likey.

AdamF · 01-23-2005, 06:44 PM

These lathe motors are SUPER slow compared to my magnetic mayhems! I just hope they have enough get up and go to bump me over some obstacles.

BultacoJim · 01-24-2005, 09:49 AM

They are made to handle 12 volts.
Some folks connect them to 14.4 v to supercharge them.

HiLuckyB · 01-24-2005, 12:29 PM

how can they run 14.4V on a super rooster? The super rooster is only go up to 12V or am i wrong?

BultacoJim · 01-24-2005, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiLuckyB

how can they run 14.4V on a super rooster? The super rooster is only go up to 12V or am i wrong?

You're correct.

You have to use something like the Novak Super Duty XR.

Make two custom battery packs with five cells apiece for 6.0 volts.
Connect two of these in series to the SR and you'll have 12 volts.

HiLuckyB · 01-24-2005, 02:21 PM

I seen a video on this site with some one using 14.4V on the super rooster and it was working

lol i dont know

BultacoJim · 01-24-2005, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiLuckyB

I seen a video on this site with some one using 14.4V on the super rooster and it was working

lol i dont know

Check out Rick’s WTF crawler.

14.4 v hookup: HELP, Sometimes I Lose Control? Dual 55T, 14.4V, Novak SR

Videos: http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showt...5010#post45010

HiLuckyB · 01-24-2005, 02:40 PM

The videos link is the guy i was talking about. mabe it can run on 14.4V's with no problems

bulletproofcustoms · 01-31-2005, 01:31 PM

Last time I stuck some 14t speed gems in my clod and just reversed the wireing on the rear and about 30 minutes later I smoked the hell out of my rear motor... and so I ask have you guys that been runing lathe motors for a while now had any problems like that?

and now does anyone know of a dummys version of how to reverse the polarity on the rear motor so I can stay away from wireing them backwards....

Jam1sstang · 02-03-2005, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletproofcustoms

Last time I stuck some 14t speed gems in my clod and just reversed the wireing on the rear and about 30 minutes later I smoked the hell out of my rear motor... and so I ask have you guys that been runing lathe motors for a while now had any problems like that?

and now does anyone know of a dummys version of how to reverse the polarity on the rear motor so I can stay away from wireing them backwards....

LATHE MOTORS don't need anything done to them but to REVERSE the wires on the rear one.

Turn the endbell around 180degrees

01-14-2005, 05:30 PM	#1
wally187 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: l.C. Posts: 226	reverse rotation i was wondering what is the best way to make one of the motors work in reverse rotation. i just bought a set of integy 55t lathe motors and asume i need to make one reverse? is it as simple as wiring it up backwards? they are going in my clod crawler with 9 tooth pinions, super rooster, hitec digital servos and a 1100 rx pack. do you guys think this will be a good setup? my run times right now are weak, maybe 5 minutes. i am using stock motors, stock pinions and no rx pack. thanks for any help...

01-14-2005, 07:37 PM	#2
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Re: reverse rotation you are correct on all accounts. reverse the wires to make the motor reverse. your setup sounds like you did your homework- it is almost exactly my setup and mine works great.

01-18-2005, 09:57 AM	#3
one_big_jeep Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yorba Linda, Ca Posts: 9	Re: reverse rotation well am I not correct in thinking that the motor will be timed in -15deg timing if you simply Just reverse polarity? Would it not be better to get Mod motors and just reverse One motors pol. and then re-time them (per the degree markings on the motor) both at say +15deg for stand rotation, and -15 at reverse? That way they both are turning the correct dirrection as well as being timed the same deg?

01-18-2005, 06:31 PM	#4
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Re: reverse rotation i didnt know lathe motors had any timing. i was under the assumption that they were 0 degrees. you always want neutral timing on crawlers, so that you have as much reverse power as forward. if in fact it did have timing, the reverse rotation one would need to be negatively timed so that it would be the same speed and current draw.

01-18-2005, 07:15 PM	#5
WRMorrison Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave Posts: 891	Re: reverse rotation I wonder, if a person lived south of the equator, would they still have to reverse the wires?

01-19-2005, 06:29 PM	#6
SPEED_RACER Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MANVILLE Posts: 413	Re: reverse rotation if indought email integy and give them the motor # and ask them directly if those motors are at 0 degree or if in fact they are timed.they do reply to questions asked as i had one about a bat charger i had gotten in a deal and told me what i needed to know

01-21-2005, 07:01 PM	#7
wally187 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: l.C. Posts: 226	Re: reverse rotation i will try emailing them and see what happens. thanks for all your guys help...

01-23-2005, 05:45 PM	#8
AdamF RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 1,673	I reversed the wiring on mine and it works just fine.

01-23-2005, 06:27 PM	#9
Ace Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 901	I just reversed polarity in mine, worked great. If the 55's have advanced/retarded timing they sure don't seem to mind which way they turn.. I just did a quick test, hooked up a lathe motor to power and then reversed polarity. RPM stayed the same so I'd say they are 0deg. Also, every motor I've seen with timing, the brushes are not 90deg to the mounting holes (middle of magnets) The lathe motors are dead on 90* I put two of these in my e-maxx with two of the biggest cogs I could find. Thing was pretty fast. I finally got tired of running my emaxx before the batteries died! They broke a rear halfshaft before the battery died so I don't know how long it woulda ran but at least 30 minutes and the motors were barely warm. I likey.

01-23-2005, 06:44 PM	#10
AdamF RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 1,673	These lathe motors are SUPER slow compared to my magnetic mayhems! I just hope they have enough get up and go to bump me over some obstacles.

01-24-2005, 09:49 AM	#11
BultacoJim Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 165	They are made to handle 12 volts. Some folks connect them to 14.4 v to supercharge them.

01-24-2005, 12:29 PM	#12
HiLuckyB Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Romulus Posts: 60	how can they run 14.4V on a super rooster? The super rooster is only go up to 12V or am i wrong?

01-24-2005, 02:21 PM	#14
HiLuckyB Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Romulus Posts: 60	I seen a video on this site with some one using 14.4V on the super rooster and it was working lol i dont know

01-24-2005, 02:40 PM	#16
HiLuckyB Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Romulus Posts: 60	The videos link is the guy i was talking about. mabe it can run on 14.4V's with no problems

01-31-2005, 01:31 PM	#17
bulletproofcustoms Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boobslando, florida Posts: 323	Last time I stuck some 14t speed gems in my clod and just reversed the wireing on the rear and about 30 minutes later I smoked the hell out of my rear motor... and so I ask have you guys that been runing lathe motors for a while now had any problems like that? and now does anyone know of a dummys version of how to reverse the polarity on the rear motor so I can stay away from wireing them backwards....

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