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Old 10-20-2013, 05:53 PM   #1
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Default I'm looking for a good sensorless brushless outrunner motor that won't break the bank

I have been running brushed motors for about 6 months now and I'm getting tired of constantly having to replace the brushes and cleaning the comm. I want something like the holmes hobby outrunner but I dont want to spend $100. Does anybody know of any good outrunners that I can find on ebay or something? I know they won't be as reliable as the holmes motor, but I am on a budget. Thanks.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:48 PM   #2
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good luck....go sensored or stay brushed
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:28 PM   #3
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Why would you want sensorless brushless in a crawler?
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #4
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I'm looking for a low KV outrunner. Like 900kv. A buddy if mine has one in his wraith and it is smooth as silk. And yes it's Sensorless. So I know it's possible. And I also don't want to have to buy another ESC. I'm trying to avoid a $200 upgrade.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:15 AM   #5
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Not the highest of quality in the links below but the trackstar motors seem to run good from what I have seen. I'm assuming you are running 2S batteries in this crawler

Turnigy TrackStar 21.5T Sensored Brushless Motor 1855KV

Hobbyking X-Car 60A Brushless Car ESC (sensored/sensorless)
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:13 PM   #6
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No I have a couple 3s venom 2100mah packs.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:15 PM   #7
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And I have the x car racing esc in my short course with a tacon 4000kv so I'm ope. To that esc, but I refuse to order anything else from hobbyking because I ordered a battery a month ago and it still hasn't shown up. I tried calling tem and I got nowhere. So I was thinking a tacon outrunner might do the trick.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:12 PM   #8
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I'm looking for a low KV outrunner. Like 900kv. A buddy if mine has one in his wraith and it is smooth as silk. And yes it's Sensorless. So I know it's possible. And I also don't want to have to buy another ESC. I'm trying to avoid a $200 upgrade.
Take a look at the e-flite Park 480 Brushless Outrunner Motor, 910Kv
Park 480 Brushless Outrunner Motor, 910Kv (EFLM1500): E-flite - Advancing Electric Flight

You also need an adapter plate.
Holmes Hobbies LLC

The motor and adapter plate comes to about $60

If you want ultra-cheap:
Sonic N2830/11 1000KV 275W 400 Outrunner Brushless Motor - General Hobby

You would still need the adapter plate.

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Old 10-22-2013, 10:39 PM   #9
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Thank you so much. I wish I saw that before I ordered mine. I went with a tacon outrunner. Do you know of I need that adapter plate for this?

http://www.hobbypartz.com/96m602-big...826-950kv.html
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:23 AM   #10
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Thank you so much. I wish I saw that before I ordered mine. I went with a tacon outrunner. Do you know of I need that adapter plate for this?

Tacon Big Foot 15 Brushless Out Runner Motor for Airplane (950KV)
You will need a adapter plate to get the correct bolt pattern.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:43 AM   #11
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Will the holmes hobby one you showed me work?
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:47 AM   #12
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You should have gone with the revolver s 540 haha. But that motor will do the job bud. Cant wait to see it in action.

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Old 10-23-2013, 11:21 AM   #13
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Will the holmes hobby one you showed me work?
I would get the motor before ordering it and double check the hole spacing since the link didn't have the specs on the size/hole spacing.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:55 PM   #14
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its probably m3 25mm spacing, judging by the motor size. You will need a 5mm pinion for it.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:50 PM   #15
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Ok it should show up within the next few days hopefully. And thank you guys so much for all the help. I just wish I held out one more day to order it cause then I would have gone with one of the other ones you showed me.
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:06 AM   #16
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Believe it or not, if you're patient in hobbykings online chat, they can be helpful. Don't ask tech questions and be prepared to waste 30 minutes. They squared up with me no issues. Watch a TV show and slowly chat with "John" haha
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:45 PM   #17
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I might give that a shot tonight

So I messaged them, they Told me to take a picture of my credit card and send it to some website, even though they said they already received my payment, and the battery is in stock, and nobody notified me for a month.

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Old 10-29-2013, 11:23 PM   #18
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This setup works perfectly!


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Old 03-27-2020, 09:45 AM   #19
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I'm running sensorless EMax GT2820/06 985kv ($25) on 3S in my Capra and SCX10. So much torque that I have snapped two axle housings on the Capra and stripped a diff in the SCX10 (gotta be more careful!) We crawl in mud/dust/snow and routinely run them almost submerged in the river to wash them off and have had no failures. I do run them hard to get the motor warm to evaporate any water left in the bearings an give the bearings a drop of oil before putting them away.

But, finding an ESC that works has been a problem. I've tried Hobbywing, etc. and the only one I have found that gives great low rpm smooth crawling is the Castle Sidewinder SW4 ($75). And it has the bonus that it works with brushless and brushed motors.

That worked so I thought I would save some money and buy the Sidewinder 3 ($69) and give it a try. Waste of money. The low speed control is not there. I also have a Castle Mamba w/sensored motor and find the Castle/EMax setup crawls better.

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