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10-14-2018, 09:05 PM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
So I wanted to see if I could get an out runner to work. I worked out some basic features, found this motor, super keen to see if it works... Keen to see what everyone thinks? I'll uapdate tomorrow after I've tried it Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk |
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10-14-2018, 10:24 PM | #2 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
sure. The question is, what is it going into, and what is the motor kv?
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10-14-2018, 10:34 PM | #3 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
It is 1250kv, 35-42 size and is going into a wraith or a SCX10. Will run it off a mx, while I wait for a new sw4 Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk |
10-15-2018, 05:08 AM | #4 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
Should be fine at that KV.
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10-15-2018, 06:30 AM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Douglassville, PA
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
4mm pinion shaft on those IIRC. How do you plan to mount a pinion?
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10-15-2018, 03:10 PM | #6 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
It's a 5mm shaft thankfully, I checked that before I purchased it. I only got a chance to bench test it, but seemed to work will. Looking forward to putting it into something and seeing how it goes Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk |
10-16-2018, 03:27 AM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
Well, I'm going to claim a win. It fit well, and has buckets of torque. I have only hooked it up to a super old hw esc, which isn't very smooth, so I'll have more info when I try a much more modern esc. Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk |
10-18-2018, 01:05 PM | #8 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2016 Location: SoWIs
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
I selected a 12 stator 3542 cheapie & am more than pleased with it. They virtually all have 5mm shafts, which is great for shaft strength but difficult for gear selection. One thing to look at with random outrunners is pole/coil count. I found most with either 6, 9, or 12 stators. Speed/kv is mostly why you'll find them a certain way, but generally more stators = more poles = more torque for a given speed. It's a given that cheaper motors will be less efficient due to poor winding & cheap magnets, but I think it's more than sufficient when you consider performace/$. |
10-28-2018, 05:02 PM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Granite Falls, WA
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
I have some budget outrunner motors, in a similar KV range, which I tried running a couple of years ago, using an SV3, but couldn’t get sufficient smoothness at startup and breaking, but torque and battery life was astounding! I managed to keep them, and intend to retry them with an SW4. However, if they fail to impress, I’ll use the HH Revolver 1800 I bought a few months back. Well, that, or the Tenshock 906 2400kv. I’m kind of a motor junkie, and recently discovered that I have more motors than esc’s.
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10-29-2018, 06:21 AM | #10 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Douglassville, PA
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
I have quite a few, and I tend to use mine with 2/3 speed transmissions. Torque is astounding in lower gear, and the higher gear gives back some wheelspeed that you lose when running an outrunner. Very cool and different motors.
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10-29-2018, 11:27 AM | #11 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
It will no doubt work. But, will it last?
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10-29-2018, 05:39 PM | #12 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
I'm just curious if all outrunners make noise like the HH 1800kv Revolver or if that is a unique property of the HH motor.
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10-29-2018, 08:30 PM | #13 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dells
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
They all do. I've had issues with outrunners in trail trucks sucking in sand/etc and getting all sorts of buggered up. |
10-30-2018, 01:24 AM | #14 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2016 Location: SoWIs
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| Re: Predictions? Purchased random out runner motor, will it work?
IIRC it's the PWM frequency causing resonances in the physical parts in a range we can hear. It can be reduced with a higher frequency drive but the trade-off is mosfet heat. ESC's are rarely shining examples of cutting-edge fast-switching mosfets. There's not much to wear out besides the bearing. At most he'll exceed the voltage/amp rating of the stator wire. The china inrunner I've had in my 150A+ boat has lasted 2 years so far, I doubt a tiny outrunner will do any worse. Ironically these outrunners generally have easier to service bearings than most brushed & inrunner motors. |
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