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kazi · 08-29-2007, 03:33 AM

Hi All, I'm looking for a ESC for my new Clod crawler, and I've found a company in Spain that makes Torque control System ESC's specific for that car, do you thing it's a good idea to get it? Theoretically this TCS will help to crawl better, but I'll preffer the experts advice. These are the ESC specs and a vid that shows how it works.

ESC with T.C.S(Torque Control System).
Designed specifically to work in a Clod, due to its capacity to distribute the torque ( manually or automatically) between the front and back axis.
With the same features as the Typhoon model.
Manually it is controlled with the third channel of the radio.
Automatically(enabling the TCS jumper) the ESC reads the speed's differencebetween the 2 axes and will send more torque to the slow axis.

Input Voltage (1.2VDC/cell) 6-7 cells
On-Resist.–Fwd. 0.001 Ohm
On-Resist.–Rev. 0.002 Ohm
Rated Current–Fwd. 320 amps
Rated Current–Rev. 160 amps
Braking Current 160 amps
Rev. Delay 0 - 2 Sec.
BEC Voltage 5.5 volts DC
BEC Current 5.0 amps
PWM Frequency 1850 Hertz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0s2e...FCuerpo%2Ehtml

some_guy · 08-29-2007, 04:09 AM

seems alright but i'm no expert

it would solve all clod stall issues

crawled · 08-29-2007, 04:28 AM

A car I once owned (Subaru) had this system. They called it all-wheel drive. Traction was so good it felt like car was glued to the road (the feel was very different from that of normal 4-wheel drive) Subaru later sold this technology to Audi or something, I lost track

And now an RC car has it... And yes, the idea indeed works. Don't know how well that company in Spain implemented it though. BTW looks like it's a brushed system...

I just searched Google "subaru all wheel drive torque". Brings up some interesting articles.

JohnRobHolmes · 08-29-2007, 07:35 AM

It seems like a good idea to me, but for the extra money I would rather have dual throttle instead. Clod stall isn't always a bad thing.

Thorsteenster · 08-29-2007, 08:12 AM

It looks like in "Crawler" mode the jumper is installed, bypassing the TCS. Whenever he puts the jumper in he can't slow the tire with his finger, which to me would be the same as an standard ESC. I think its a gimmick to sell ESC's.

kazi · 08-29-2007, 09:49 AM

I have a Tekin Revel 2, but last weekend I saw a friend's Clod in action and didn't really liked the Clod stall, my TLT was climbing much better than his Clod, that's why this ESC catched my atention but 130euro (about 170$) is not cheap, maybe my friend's Clod had a wrong setup and it will be better to test my car with the tekin rebel before making such a expense.

Usmc8541 · 08-29-2007, 09:56 AM

Have you got a web site we can visit?

kazi · 08-29-2007, 10:13 AM

yep, allthough they don't really show a lot more than what I've posted. www.lempo.net

Thorsteenster · 08-29-2007, 10:27 AM

What motors and gearing is your buddy running in his clod? If its stock motors and gearing, I'm sure it produces alot of clod stall.

kazi · 08-29-2007, 10:35 AM

He is running Integy 55T don't know the pinion, I'll run Integy 65T with 13 teeth pinion to start, Allthogh I've been told to put 9 T pinions.

08-29-2007, 03:33 AM	#1
kazi Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Barcelona Posts: 195	Torque control System ESC Hi All, I'm looking for a ESC for my new Clod crawler, and I've found a company in Spain that makes Torque control System ESC's specific for that car, do you thing it's a good idea to get it? Theoretically this TCS will help to crawl better, but I'll preffer the experts advice. These are the ESC specs and a vid that shows how it works. ESC with T.C.S(Torque Control System). Designed specifically to work in a Clod, due to its capacity to distribute the torque ( manually or automatically) between the front and back axis. With the same features as the Typhoon model. Manually it is controlled with the third channel of the radio. Automatically(enabling the TCS jumper) the ESC reads the speed's differencebetween the 2 axes and will send more torque to the slow axis. Input Voltage (1.2VDC/cell) 6-7 cells On-Resist.–Fwd. 0.001 Ohm On-Resist.–Rev. 0.002 Ohm Rated Current–Fwd. 320 amps Rated Current–Rev. 160 amps Braking Current 160 amps Rev. Delay 0 - 2 Sec. BEC Voltage 5.5 volts DC BEC Current 5.0 amps PWM Frequency 1850 Hertz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0s2e...FCuerpo%2Ehtml

08-29-2007, 04:28 AM	#3
crawled Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SF Posts: 8	A car I once owned (Subaru) had this system. They called it all-wheel drive. Traction was so good it felt like car was glued to the road (the feel was very different from that of normal 4-wheel drive) Subaru later sold this technology to Audi or something, I lost track And now an RC car has it... And yes, the idea indeed works. Don't know how well that company in Spain implemented it though. BTW looks like it's a brushed system... I just searched Google "subaru all wheel drive torque". Brings up some interesting articles. Last edited by crawled; 08-29-2007 at 04:58 AM.

08-29-2007, 04:09 AM	#2
some_guy Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2007 Location: melbourne, australia Posts: 274	seems alright but i'm no expert it would solve all clod stall issues

08-29-2007, 07:35 AM	#4
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	It seems like a good idea to me, but for the extra money I would rather have dual throttle instead. Clod stall isn't always a bad thing.

08-29-2007, 08:12 AM	#5
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	It looks like in "Crawler" mode the jumper is installed, bypassing the TCS. Whenever he puts the jumper in he can't slow the tire with his finger, which to me would be the same as an standard ESC. I think its a gimmick to sell ESC's.

08-29-2007, 09:49 AM	#6
kazi Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Barcelona Posts: 195	I have a Tekin Revel 2, but last weekend I saw a friend's Clod in action and didn't really liked the Clod stall, my TLT was climbing much better than his Clod, that's why this ESC catched my atention but 130euro (about 170$) is not cheap, maybe my friend's Clod had a wrong setup and it will be better to test my car with the tekin rebel before making such a expense.

08-29-2007, 09:56 AM	#7
Usmc8541 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Del mar Posts: 411	Have you got a web site we can visit?

08-29-2007, 10:13 AM	#8
kazi Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Barcelona Posts: 195	yep, allthough they don't really show a lot more than what I've posted. www.lempo.net

08-29-2007, 10:27 AM	#9
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	What motors and gearing is your buddy running in his clod? If its stock motors and gearing, I'm sure it produces alot of clod stall.

08-29-2007, 10:35 AM	#10
kazi Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Barcelona Posts: 195	He is running Integy 55T don't know the pinion, I'll run Integy 65T with 13 teeth pinion to start, Allthogh I've been told to put 9 T pinions.

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