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07-21-2008, 08:20 AM | #1 |
varcor.org Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 757
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| Axial stub shafts & Berg O-rings
When you're switching to the Axial stub shafts, are you using the rubber o-ring that the stock Berg stub shafts have? Before the first run of my Berg, I swapped the stock Berg stub shafts for the Axial stub shafts to avoid any breakage. During the first comp with the Berg, I ended up with 3wd until I placed a O-ring on the inside of the Axial stub shaft which appears to keep the dog bone seated in the differential. BTW, I had a 5mm washer between the bearing and hex pin on the stub shaft to keep the play at the wheels down during the first and second course until I had to take a repair. |
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07-21-2008, 08:47 AM | #2 |
DOOH!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AZ
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Yep, I also used just one in each stub. Two seamed a bit tight in the front and hindered the streering. Just completed the first comp with it, no issues yet. |
07-21-2008, 10:04 AM | #3 | |
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07-21-2008, 10:38 AM | #4 |
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| at the moment, i removed it since thought it was causing the issue with the 3wd. still had the issue on the next course. so someone had an o-ring and i installed that - 4wd back. i'll be inspecting everything tonight to see if i still need a washer to reduce the lateral play the wheels have.
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07-21-2008, 11:10 AM | #5 |
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Thanks for the heads up, I am not running an O-ring but will go install one to insure I don't have the same issue. I ran it at its first comp two weekends ago and had no issues though.
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07-21-2008, 11:19 AM | #6 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sachse TX
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Thank you for the responce. I will be watching for your findings. |
07-21-2008, 05:38 PM | #7 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Minneapolis
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Tried 2 o-rings, thought that was a little too snug. I installed 1 o-ring and have over 8 hours on the rig and no issues.
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07-21-2008, 06:04 PM | #8 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Elberfeld
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I've been running the one o-ring set-up for a little over a month now with no issues at all.
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03-02-2009, 09:46 AM | #9 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carson City
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What o rings are these?
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03-02-2009, 11:37 AM | #10 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sebastopol CA
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The little black guys that are stuffed down in the stub shaft cups. There are normally two in each stub shaft on a stock setup. They look like this, except mine were black. http://www.tcscrawlers.com/EnRoute-B...3-p-16911.html If your's are missing that's probably why your inner popped out of the locker. |
03-02-2009, 12:21 PM | #11 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carson City
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What about with axial stub shafts?
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03-02-2009, 12:24 PM | #12 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sebastopol CA
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I tried two o rings with my axial stubs and felt it was too tight, one o ring seems to fit just right.
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03-02-2009, 01:34 PM | #13 |
Keep Crawling in Crawling Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Commerce City
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My wife had the same problem during her first comp and she installed one of the Berg o-rings and never has had a problem since. The reason Berg has two o-rings is there stub shaft is mad e with a deeper pocket.
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03-02-2009, 01:58 PM | #14 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle
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Exactly. I had the same issue, luckily I found the 3WD situation as I was test pulling the trigger before starting a course! Berg stub - 2 o-rings Axial stub - 1 o-ring |
03-03-2009, 08:37 AM | #15 |
ghetto fabulous newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: with your mom
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fuel line works fine to. |
03-03-2009, 08:54 AM | #16 |
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I've always used two O rings. After a couple of comps the O rings soften up. I find that by then the one O ring stops serving its purpose and things get sloppy.
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03-03-2009, 11:11 AM | #17 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Waipahu
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2 O rings. Just right...
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03-03-2009, 09:14 PM | #18 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mansfield, PA
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I use a 3mm or 4mm peice of nitro fuel tubing in each Axial stub, it stays in the stubs better than the o-rings do (imo).
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04-23-2009, 08:08 AM | #19 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: JERSEY BOONDOCKS
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Have any of you guys noticed a reduction in steering angle running the axial stub shafts? For some reason My steering seems to have a bind in it at full lock...Like the ends of the cups are hitting the inner axle and cause my drivetrain to bump/bind. I can just dial some steering out of it, but in order to get it to go away completely i feel like i'm giving away all my steering. On average...what kind of steering angles are you guys getting with your bergs converted to axial stub? I'm running VP knuckles and or ckrc knuckles. The vp knuckles move the bearing in a bit so the o-ring is no longer needed. The ckrc knuckle requires the o-ring...howvever...both set-ups have the problem above. equally Thanks! TURBO |
04-23-2009, 08:15 AM | #20 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rhode Island
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Whats the point of running the axial stub shafts?
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