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Old 07-29-2008, 07:21 PM   #1
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Does anyone have a template to clock these axles. Be it the tube or the cases?
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:08 PM   #2
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You basically already have a template if you use the gear case.

First thing I did was shave part of the base of axle tube back. This is done to clear the hump on the gear case (shown below w\arrow pointing the hump).
Now that the axle tube is able to clear the hump, while it is connected to the gear case, rotate (or clock) axle to whatever angle you want.
Once you have selected the angle use the holes from the gear case to mark the axle tube. Wala! There's is your template.

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I am tempted to clock the axle. But a bit skeptical when come to drilling the tube base.

How do you guys drill it? I mean, do you use bench drill? I only have a hand drill so I am worried the the hole may not be straight. The only way is to use bench/press drill??
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Yes I used a drill press which made it easier but it can be done w/a regular hand drill if you take your time.

I put the axle tube in a vise with the gear case still attached. After I drilled the first hole I tapped it and put the 3mm screw in to keep it in place. Then drilled the next two holes.

Using the gear case as a guide will make it much easier to stay centered and can be done the same way with a hand drill if you take your time.
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Thanks for the tips... too bad I don't have the drill press... maybe I can take the axle to my friend machine shop to do this mod...
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Well... that's a plus of playing crawler and have a friend with machine shop...

I do have a cnc mill but it's a gantry type... so, can't to the job that I need.. the Z + travel is limited.. not to mention about the flat table...:-(:-(:-(
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I made a template, though it does appear its gonna help, but with the one hole down in the original relief at max I can template 2 holes, but I can do those, tap them and mount it and use the gear case as the final template like SMR4RUNNER posted.
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You kick my butt all the the time because I'm stuck working on your junk all the time instead of my own.

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I made a template, though it does appear its gonna help, but with the one hole down in the original relief at max I can template 2 holes, but I can do those, tap them and mount it and use the gear case as the final template like SMR4RUNNER posted.
What degree is that .
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What degree is that .
I eyeballed everyone who showed pics like SMR4RUNNER and came up with 22 degrees clock.
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I made a template, though it does appear its gonna help, but with the one hole down in the original relief at max I can template 2 holes, but I can do those, tap them and mount it and use the gear case as the final template like SMR4RUNNER posted.
Sweet job on those templates man.
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Just what I was looking for, sweet!

Any chance there's a PDF file for the template?
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Just what I was looking for, sweet!

Any chance there's a PDF file for the template?
X2 Please
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Instead of tapping the holes couldnt you just run a longer one and use a nut on the outside? It might not be as pretty but it might be more secure.
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Anyone one want the template, please PM me your email and I'll send it. My clocking is 22* based on pictures of other members clock angles.

It works well.

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Instead of tapping the holes couldnt you just run a longer one and use a nut on the outside? It might not be as pretty but it might be more secure.
The nut could cause more problem with break over or hang ups. Big deal, possibly not but try it if you want...
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Instead of tapping the holes couldnt you just run a longer one and use a nut on the outside? It might not be as pretty but it might be more secure.


How would that be more secure? There is a lot of material there to tap.
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How would that be more secure? There is a lot of material there to tap.
I'm of the believe that using a tap to thread it vs machine cut, the tap is much easier to strip out, while that may or may not always be true i have had it happen to me on tapped holes so thats what i based it on. Since the screws in question basically support a great majority of the weight of the truck at the axle i want all the security i can get.
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I made a template, though it does appear its gonna help, but with the one hole down in the original relief at max I can template 2 holes, but I can do those, tap them and mount it and use the gear case as the final template like SMR4RUNNER posted.
Instead of drilling holes and tapping the castor, why dont you just drill new holes in the gear box? then your still using the stock threaded holes.
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Instead of drilling holes and tapping the castor, why dont you just drill new holes in the gear box? then your still using the stock threaded holes.
Do you own BERG's?

The case is very thin and made of cast aluminum. Not something I want to weaken with more holes and countersinks for screw heads.

The axle tubes have tons of meat therefore allowing good screw bite and no loss of strength.
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