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Reflection · 03-14-2009, 02:39 PM

Lets see what all the hub bub is about with these damn Bergs that drive themselves.

Specs for now....

AKRCC chassis
Machined bent rear lowers
Cheater,I mean Berg axles clocked 25 degrees
PolyRC 2200mah 3 cell from Holmes Hobbies
35t motors from Holmes Hobbies
Castle Mamba max from RCP Crawlers
Castle BEC from Holmes Hobbies
MANLY dig switches from Holmes Hobbies
HS 81 dig servo
Airtronics 359 for the steering
Twin Force shocks limited internally
Losi yellow springs
Panthers on VF Stalkers

I'll be doing a little more work on this later this afternoon. I'll try and get a few more pictures up then.

redbaron · 03-14-2009, 05:58 PM

Looking good Mr. Shafty Man!!

Are those axial offset wheels?

Reflection · 03-14-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by redbaron

Looking good Mr. Shafty Man!!

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Originally Posted by redbaron

Are those axial offset wheels?

Yes sir they are. Outside to outside is a shade less than 10.750" A tad wide,but it'll work for now. My Axial rig was 10.250" and I liked it...but could have used a bit more width at times. I may end up buying a new set of wheels if this width is to much.

Harvo · 03-15-2009, 05:02 AM

Looking good Steve. I'm about to yank my hair out w/ mine. I'm trying a rockshow chassis.... and getting all the electronics in that little space and trying to make it look half good is a chore.

Reflection · 03-15-2009, 09:18 AM

Thanks Harvo. The wiring is a bit of a pain.

Up till about 2:30 a.m. finishing this up. Here's a few more before the electronics went in.....

After all the wiring BS........

Reflection · 03-15-2009, 06:40 PM

I thought these Berg axles were supposed to be strong. Not even one pack through them and the front axle is toast.

redbaron · 03-15-2009, 07:01 PM

What broke?

Reflection · 03-15-2009, 07:07 PM

Cleaned the gears of their teeth.

I've had plastic spur gears handle more abuse than I was giving this thing.

ADDICT · 03-16-2009, 02:20 AM

nice build Steve. Sorry to here about your front axle. I like how you mounted your battery in the skid.

HomerJ · 03-16-2009, 07:22 AM

Wow, I was expecting you to say the dogbones or the knuckle even.. Wasn't expecting to hear the gears were the failure point!! I've given my axles hell and then some, the only things I've managed to break are 1 axleshaft, 1 knuckle, bent the ears on the axle tube, and a few bearings lol. Could the gears possibly have been faulty?? Man, now I'm going to have to tear mine down and do some inspecting. Oh well, about time to re-grease them up anyway

JIA's Dad · 03-16-2009, 08:04 AM

Pics of the carnage. Please

666 · 03-16-2009, 08:30 AM

Hmmm you had to get a bad one...... Sorry about that, please try again! :-P

What are the brass rods on the sides of the chassis?

Waiting for more......

TwistedCreations · 03-16-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 666

What are the brass rods on the sides of the chassis?

Looks like some sort of tie down for his battery..

Steve, what pinions are you running? The metric pinions?

Reflection · 03-16-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 666

Hmmm you had to get a bad one...... Sorry about that, please try again! :-P

What are the brass rods on the sides of the chassis?

You should know me better than that. I don't give up that easy.

Those aren't brass rods

They are stock Axial shock shafts. For said reasons.

Good sturdy bars for a battery strap. Actually,they were just the right length and a perfect fit in the brackets I built to hold them,so I used them

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Originally Posted by TwistedCreations

Looks like some sort of tie down for his battery..

Steve, what pinions are you running? The metric pinions?

RR pinions,and they are the metric ones. At least thats what the package said. Kinda hard to see the difference with the naked eye....specially my eyes.

Bout blind as a bat anymore

I took all the gears to work,cleaned them up real good and looked them over under a magnifying lens in our inspection room. They were chewed up a bit. I have some super tiny files I use to debur little parts with and used them to clean the gears up best I could. I think they are still useable. Since the rear axle stalls more,I've got them in the rear axle now. I think I'll try and get some actual Berg pinions this time.

sddill · 03-20-2009, 05:11 AM

Did you get you new pinions in yet ??? Hope it is ready for the comp Sunday

Reflection · 03-20-2009, 07:40 AM

Got them. WTF? Enroute doesn't provide grub screws with their pinions?

Kinda lame.

IF I can find 2 good grub screws with the right thread and not stripped out,yes,I'll have this truck ready for Sunday.

sddill · 03-20-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by raptorman57

Got them. WTF? Enroute doesn't provide grub screws with their pinions?

Kinda lame.

IF I can find 2 good grub screws with the right thread and not stripped out,yes,I'll have this truck ready for Sunday.

Thats weird I was thinking mine came with the grubs :-?

dieselfuel · 03-20-2009, 12:22 PM

damn, im running Robinson 12t metric pinions and it took me 7 months to strip a set of gears.

Reflection · 03-23-2009, 04:32 PM

I'm pretty pleased with the way this thing worked on Sunday. TOTALLY different than my shaftie. It was working well until I lost a front shaft on course 3. Guess it's time to put 1:8 scale buggy shafts in this thing as well. They hold up great in my super.

Reflection · 04-24-2009, 02:50 PM

Was in desperate need of new shoes. My old wheels worked very well,but allot of the threads for the locking rings were starting to strip. Only having 6 bolts per side,I have lost a bead a few times. I knew I wanted a better bead area with more bolts

Waiting on material right now,but these will be available in the vendors section soon. Couple different offsets available. This one provides 10 3/4" width,which I prefer myself. The other offset should net right at 10 1/2" width....might be able to go a bit skinnier. We'll just have to play with our program and see how far we can push the offset.

I'll tell ya,these HOLD a tire. I'm waiting on hardware right now as I don't have enough on hand to finish a complete set. I ran 3 packs through running a couple of these wheels with only 4 bolts per ring. Never lost a bead.

You'll notice the hex area is allot beefier than some wheels. I did this mainly for Greg.

Only guy I know thats broke the hex area out of an aluminum wheel. He won't break these.

There is probably enough meat there to even cut a 14mm hex if someone prefers a 14mm hex,or has a special order.

Sorry the pictures are kinda rough. I'm gonna go run a bit on my rock pile and I'll get a few good pictures.

03-14-2009, 02:39 PM	#1
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	CROW.....With new shoes. Lets see what all the hub bub is about with these damn Bergs that drive themselves. Specs for now.... AKRCC chassis Machined bent rear lowers Cheater,I mean Berg axles clocked 25 degrees PolyRC 2200mah 3 cell from Holmes Hobbies 35t motors from Holmes Hobbies Castle Mamba max from RCP Crawlers Castle BEC from Holmes Hobbies MANLY dig switches from Holmes Hobbies HS 81 dig servo Airtronics 359 for the steering Twin Force shocks limited internally Losi yellow springs Panthers on VF Stalkers I'll be doing a little more work on this later this afternoon. I'll try and get a few more pictures up then. Last edited by Reflection; 03-14-2009 at 03:18 PM.

04-24-2009, 02:50 PM	#20
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	New shoes Was in desperate need of new shoes. My old wheels worked very well,but allot of the threads for the locking rings were starting to strip. Only having 6 bolts per side,I have lost a bead a few times. I knew I wanted a better bead area with more bolts Waiting on material right now,but these will be available in the vendors section soon. Couple different offsets available. This one provides 10 3/4" width,which I prefer myself. The other offset should net right at 10 1/2" width....might be able to go a bit skinnier. We'll just have to play with our program and see how far we can push the offset. I'll tell ya,these HOLD a tire. I'm waiting on hardware right now as I don't have enough on hand to finish a complete set. I ran 3 packs through running a couple of these wheels with only 4 bolts per ring. Never lost a bead. You'll notice the hex area is allot beefier than some wheels. I did this mainly for Greg. Only guy I know thats broke the hex area out of an aluminum wheel. He won't break these. There is probably enough meat there to even cut a 14mm hex if someone prefers a 14mm hex,or has a special order. Sorry the pictures are kinda rough. I'm gonna go run a bit on my rock pile and I'll get a few good pictures.

03-14-2009, 05:58 PM	#2
redbaron I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Elberfeld Posts: 2,085	Looking good Mr. Shafty Man!! Are those axial offset wheels?

03-15-2009, 05:02 AM	#4
Harvo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In the Dark Edges of your Mind Posts: 6,386	Looking good Steve. I'm about to yank my hair out w/ mine. I'm trying a rockshow chassis.... and getting all the electronics in that little space and trying to make it look half good is a chore.

03-15-2009, 09:18 AM	#5
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	Thanks Harvo. The wiring is a bit of a pain. Up till about 2:30 a.m. finishing this up. Here's a few more before the electronics went in..... After all the wiring BS........

03-15-2009, 06:40 PM	#6
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	I thought these Berg axles were supposed to be strong. Not even one pack through them and the front axle is toast.

03-15-2009, 07:01 PM	#7
redbaron I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Elberfeld Posts: 2,085	What broke?

03-15-2009, 07:07 PM	#8
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	Cleaned the gears of their teeth. I've had plastic spur gears handle more abuse than I was giving this thing.

03-16-2009, 02:20 AM	#9
ADDICT RCC Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: On the rocks Posts: 985	nice build Steve. Sorry to here about your front axle. I like how you mounted your battery in the skid.

03-16-2009, 07:22 AM	#10
HomerJ Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lexington Posts: 707	Wow, I was expecting you to say the dogbones or the knuckle even.. Wasn't expecting to hear the gears were the failure point!! I've given my axles hell and then some, the only things I've managed to break are 1 axleshaft, 1 knuckle, bent the ears on the axle tube, and a few bearings lol. Could the gears possibly have been faulty?? Man, now I'm going to have to tear mine down and do some inspecting. Oh well, about time to re-grease them up anyway

03-16-2009, 08:04 AM	#11
JIA's Dad Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Midway Posts: 836	Pics of the carnage. Please

03-16-2009, 08:30 AM	#12
666 MODERHATER™ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 10,939	Hmmm you had to get a bad one...... Sorry about that, please try again! :-P What are the brass rods on the sides of the chassis? Waiting for more......

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03-20-2009, 05:11 AM	#15
sddill RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: E.T.R.C. Posts: 1,575	Did you get you new pinions in yet ??? Hope it is ready for the comp Sunday

03-20-2009, 07:40 AM	#16
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	Got them. WTF? Enroute doesn't provide grub screws with their pinions? Kinda lame. IF I can find 2 good grub screws with the right thread and not stripped out,yes,I'll have this truck ready for Sunday.

03-20-2009, 12:22 PM	#18
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	damn, im running Robinson 12t metric pinions and it took me 7 months to strip a set of gears.

03-23-2009, 04:32 PM	#19
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	I'm pretty pleased with the way this thing worked on Sunday. TOTALLY different than my shaftie. It was working well until I lost a front shaft on course 3. Guess it's time to put 1:8 scale buggy shafts in this thing as well. They hold up great in my super.

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