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run2jeepn · 03-28-2009, 11:58 PM

Spec's
-Berg Axles
-Ax-10 Knuckles
-CDW Steering Kit
-Sidewinder ESC
-Front and Rear Dig
-Radio DX3R
-HaVoc Chassis
-90mm Shocks
-3 different wheel and Tire Combo's
(X-Locks,Panthers,Chisels with Adjustable Offset beadlocks &
Rc4wd Rampage Beadlocks)
-Dogman Lower Links
-KK Rear axle Tray
-1500 3 cell Lipo
-Hitec 5995TG
-New Style JP Berg Lock-Outs
-Prototype Body and HPI Bug Body
-2x Warrior-SS 45T

I'm Build 2 Comp Rigs... Not really for a back up. But built different for Different Courses. We have a wide range of Comp courses here and it changes up every month.

Today was a good day. I recieved my OTA Steering Kit... Fast shipping I just ordered it 2 days ago.. Thanks Yota..! Also I got my New Style Berg/OCM/Newage Rear Lock-Outs.

run2jeepn · 03-29-2009, 12:01 AM

Here are some Roller Pic's... The HaVoc Chassis with a 2in Skid and 5in Stainless Steel Lower Links. Rc4wd Rampage beadlocks and X-Lock Tires. 5.5in Tall and very sticky.

Here is a shot of the Delrin Chassis Brace and KK rear axle tray.

80mm Shocks with Cap Mod done

run2jeepn · 03-29-2009, 12:03 AM

Prototype Body Pic's (Still workinf on the Mold for these)

Set beside my Bully. You can see it sets lower. The Skid clearance is at 3-1/4in..

dieselfuel · 03-29-2009, 12:10 AM

whats up with the steering?

fullsyzz · 03-29-2009, 12:11 AM

Nice build, looks good.

run2jeepn · 03-29-2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselfuel

whats up with the steering?

I just need to install the CDW Steering kit. Whats on there was a Crappy mock up. I wasn't happy with. I also scarpped my 2.2 Clod. So it's getting the 5995TG from it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullsyzz

Nice build, looks good.

Thanks

toytech93 · 03-29-2009, 01:38 AM

looks good !

what are you going to do for a dig tray ?

Oh, a Thank you is in order. Received my Havoc yesterday, and I already got it built !

It already feel better than my past setup ! More stable and predictable

Just waiting on a set of Mayhem's for Her.

run2jeepn · 03-29-2009, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toytech93

looks good !

what are you going to do for a dig tray ?

Oh, a Thank you is in order. Received my Havoc yesterday, and I already got it built !

It already feel better than my past setup ! More stable and predictable

Just waiting on a set of Mayhem's for Her.

just going to mount the two Switches to the Servo and mount it below the Rear Chassis Brace. The 1500 3 cell Lipo will be moved forward on the skid.

The HaVoc is very stable...

Got any pic's or a thread started on yours yet?

toytech93 · 03-29-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by run2jeepn

Got any pic's or a thread started on yours yet?

No, i decided against a build thread or pics. Last time I did that 5 or 6 truck were built just like it.

Culetto · 03-29-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toytech93

No, i decided against a build thread or pics. Last time I did that 5 or 6 truck were built just like it.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

DiEzel · 03-29-2009, 10:46 PM

Looks great. One question.

Any particular reason you run your belly height so high ? Just curious.

k9popo · 03-29-2009, 11:28 PM

Damn this was built quick J

Must be a really easy chassis to build off of

...

I always thought the rear was the "Torque end" but after seeing all these badass HAVOKS being built its just the opposite...Any reason to this or is it reversible to the builders liking to increase the flexibility of the chassis???

run2jeepn · 03-29-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiEzel

Looks great. One question.

Any particular reason you run your belly height so high ? Just curious.

3-1/4in Bell Clearance... It's still going to be very Stable... Also around here we have tons of sharp drop offs. Which get you hung up if your a Belly Dragger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9popo

Damn this was built quick J

Must be a really easy chassis to build off of

...

I always thought the rear was the "Torque end" but after seeing all these badass HAVOKS being built its just the opposite...Any reason to this or is it reversible to the builders liking to increase to flexibility of the chassis???

Thanks, man... Everything bolts up smooth and easy. It Could be Reversible, but it was designed to have the Torsion in the Front....

Culetto · 03-29-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9popo

I always thought the rear was the "Torque end" but after seeing all these badass HAVOKS being built its just the opposite...Any reason to this or is it reversible to the builders liking to increase to flexibility of the chassis???

It has more to do with traction. With the torsion end in the front the rear is forced to react to what the front is doing when following. This actually increases the downforce on either of the front wheels. If you reversed it you would be dragging 80% of the bulk of the rig around the course with only the springs pushing down. It also works with your AntiSquat since there are no springs in the front to compress the pressure is applied more directly to the tires in a vertical climb.

Note how on this climb you can see how compressed my right front tire is. This was a very steep climb but as the antisquat started to push the front it didnt squat the whole rig down just added to the traction on the front end. Or maybe im totally wrong and just really lucky

dieselfuel · 03-30-2009, 12:18 AM

it seems backwards to me also but ive competed against and driven culetto's rig and it flat out works. the thing climbs like a mother****er.

ASRCRAWLERS · 03-30-2009, 12:23 AM

i just wish i had those rock. i also get what your saying

JIA's Dad · 03-30-2009, 01:21 AM

So are there going to be any of these at ECC-09? I would like to see one up close.

Why do you have the rear axle reversed with the motor hanging out the back? Most do not do that now days!!

Rockcrawler · 03-30-2009, 08:35 AM

Very nice Jarod! Hope to see this thing run sometime.

run2jeepn · 03-30-2009, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIA's Dad

So are there going to be any of these at ECC-09? I would like to see one up close.

Why do you have the rear axle reversed with the motor hanging out the back? Most do not do that now days!!

With the Prototype HaVoc the Chassis was in the way on the Bully's. You had to have the Rear axle Flipped. With the New Production HaVoc you don't have to. You have the Choice. If you have bigger tires having the rear axle Flipped as some advantages.

run2jeepn · 04-03-2009, 11:01 PM

Got some work done today..

Replaced the Rear Links with Delrin Dogman Links. They woundn't clear the front motor.

Installed the front steering Kit. Kind of a Pain, but not CDW's. Just the Berg Design really. Have to tear into the gear case just to remove the upper link mount. Using HR Ax-10 Knuckles. I'm ordering a set of High Steer Knuckles to replace those. Not a big fan of spacing the Steering link that high of the Knuckles.

Since the HaVoc's front Torsion Links are mounted just about stright up and down. I was having some clearance issues with the Steering kit. From the Servo being moved higher off the axle.

Mocked up this link with a Curve in it. Just does clear the Servo. I'll remake one with revo Ends later.

03-28-2009, 11:58 PM	#1
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Berg running HaVoc.... Jp's Berg Build Spec's -Berg Axles -Ax-10 Knuckles -CDW Steering Kit -Sidewinder ESC -Front and Rear Dig -Radio DX3R -HaVoc Chassis -90mm Shocks -3 different wheel and Tire Combo's (X-Locks,Panthers,Chisels with Adjustable Offset beadlocks & Rc4wd Rampage Beadlocks) -Dogman Lower Links -KK Rear axle Tray -1500 3 cell Lipo -Hitec 5995TG -New Style JP Berg Lock-Outs -Prototype Body and HPI Bug Body -2x Warrior-SS 45T I'm Build 2 Comp Rigs... Not really for a back up. But built different for Different Courses. We have a wide range of Comp courses here and it changes up every month. Today was a good day. I recieved my OTA Steering Kit... Fast shipping I just ordered it 2 days ago.. Thanks Yota..! Also I got my New Style Berg/OCM/Newage Rear Lock-Outs.

03-29-2009, 12:01 AM	#2
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Here are some Roller Pic's... The HaVoc Chassis with a 2in Skid and 5in Stainless Steel Lower Links. Rc4wd Rampage beadlocks and X-Lock Tires. 5.5in Tall and very sticky. Here is a shot of the Delrin Chassis Brace and KK rear axle tray. 80mm Shocks with Cap Mod done Last edited by run2jeepn; 03-29-2009 at 12:04 AM.

03-29-2009, 12:03 AM	#3
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Prototype Body Pic's (Still workinf on the Mold for these) Set beside my Bully. You can see it sets lower. The Skid clearance is at 3-1/4in.. Last edited by run2jeepn; 03-29-2009 at 05:56 AM.

03-29-2009, 11:28 PM	#12
k9popo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: * Posts: 2,877	Damn this was built quick J Must be a really easy chassis to build off of... I always thought the rear was the "Torque end" but after seeing all these badass HAVOKS being built its just the opposite...Any reason to this or is it reversible to the builders liking to increase the flexibility of the chassis??? Last edited by k9popo; 03-29-2009 at 11:41 PM.

03-30-2009, 01:21 AM	#17
JIA's Dad Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Midway Posts: 836	So are there going to be any of these at ECC-09? I would like to see one up close. Why do you have the rear axle reversed with the motor hanging out the back? Most do not do that now days!! Last edited by JIA's Dad; 03-30-2009 at 01:23 AM.

03-29-2009, 12:10 AM	#4
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	whats up with the steering?

03-29-2009, 12:11 AM	#5
fullsyzz Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reno Posts: 68	Nice build, looks good.

03-29-2009, 01:38 AM	#7
toytech93 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 441	looks good ! what are you going to do for a dig tray ? Oh, a Thank you is in order. Received my Havoc yesterday, and I already got it built ! It already feel better than my past setup ! More stable and predictable Just waiting on a set of Mayhem's for Her.

03-29-2009, 10:46 PM	#11
DiEzel RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alpine,CA Posts: 1,258	Looks great. One question. Any particular reason you run your belly height so high ? Just curious.

03-30-2009, 12:18 AM	#15
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	it seems backwards to me also but ive competed against and driven culetto's rig and it flat out works. the thing climbs like a mother****er.

03-30-2009, 12:23 AM	#16
ASRCRAWLERS Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cottage Grove Posts: 120	i just wish i had those rock. i also get what your saying

03-30-2009, 08:35 AM	#18
Rockcrawler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hueytown, Alabama Posts: 6,777	Very nice Jarod! Hope to see this thing run sometime.

04-03-2009, 11:01 PM	#20
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Got some work done today.. Replaced the Rear Links with Delrin Dogman Links. They woundn't clear the front motor. Installed the front steering Kit. Kind of a Pain, but not CDW's. Just the Berg Design really. Have to tear into the gear case just to remove the upper link mount. Using HR Ax-10 Knuckles. I'm ordering a set of High Steer Knuckles to replace those. Not a big fan of spacing the Steering link that high of the Knuckles. Since the HaVoc's front Torsion Links are mounted just about stright up and down. I was having some clearance issues with the Steering kit. From the Servo being moved higher off the axle. Mocked up this link with a Curve in it. Just does clear the Servo. I'll remake one with revo Ends later. Last edited by run2jeepn; 04-03-2009 at 11:15 PM.

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