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billj 11-27-2010 09:51 PM

billj's first MOA build
 
Well i have come over to the dark side, this is my first attempt at a moa. Here is what i have so far.

UGC Fastback MOA V2 chassis ( thanks Juan) This is #2 of 4 of these chassis produced before Juan shut down Underground crawlers. As far as i know im the only one using berg axles. (The other guys are using XR-10 axles.)

Berg axles from ckrc
Vp zero ack knuckles
RCInovations over the axle steering kit
RC Bros lightweight 4th gear lockers
Super 300's from SDS Customz
Mann hard 2nd and 3rd gears
Br00d 40t R/T motors
FXR
CC BEC 7.2v
Punk Dig
Hitec 7950th (ignore the jr8711)
T1e rear links
nova low clearance front links
Lunsford ti uppers
Rear lockouts (JeepinDoug)
Vp Dh procomps fronts w/ 2 bullets
Vp SLW V4 rear
Sedonas
Nova DD foams trimmed inner/stock outer
DX3R w/3100sr rx

Here is what i started with while waiting for the chassis

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD004.jpg

Built some traxxas big bores, not sure if i will use these or the losis
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD014.jpg

Modified the jeepindoug c-cups to fit the mini-t springs, on my redneck lathe.
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD011.jpg

Also clocked the axles 20 deg.
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD007.jpg

Got the chassis last monday could only work on two nights. Had to go out of town for Thanksgiving."thumbsup"
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD024.jpghttp://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD020.jpg

got it to a roller buy tues eve.
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD036.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD027.jpg

Got home today and this was in the mailbox"thumbsup"Gotta love early x-mas!!
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD046.jpg

Got her running "thumbsup""thumbsup"still need to make panels and alot of tuning:)
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD050.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD054.jpg

Any advice or comments are more than welcome. Like i said this is my first moa, and i know very little about them. Thanks, Bill

Harvo 11-28-2010 06:30 AM

Looks nice. Why didn't you use the shock mounts on the chassis?

billj 11-28-2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvo (Post 2764746)
Looks nice. Why didn't you use the shock mounts on the chassis?

The front mounts are Jeepindoug 6mm standoffs(just the ball part,not the spacer) ,the rear are the stock Losi standoffs . I have to get some more jeepindoug's for the rear."thumbsup"I ordered some 5mm's for the traxxas big bores then i can install them. I couldnt use the stock shock mounts they were too far inboard. The shock would hit the transmission cases.

billj 11-28-2010 05:51 PM

Got some more done today, think she is ready for some real rocks. Made some practice panels, put Sedonas all the way around. She weighs in at 6.08lbs RTR. Guess i have to put her on a diet"thumbsup"
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD057.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD056.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD059.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD060.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD063.jpg

KBrog 11-28-2010 06:06 PM

Awesome Build. I think I like that chassis better than most of the other bodyless I have seen. What brand are the bent rod ends on the upper chassis end of the links?

billj 11-28-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBrog (Post 2765670)
Awesome Build. I think I like that chassis better than most of the other bodyless I have seen. What brand are the bent rod ends on the upper chassis end of the links?

Thanks i really dig the Fastback chassis too, too bad it is no more:cry: I believe the rod ends are Axial 3mm. I just had a bunch of stuff i pieced the upper links together with.

Mini 11-28-2010 06:54 PM

Oh shit!!! Looks good Bill next Sunday should be nice lolol.

kennyj 11-28-2010 07:11 PM

Damn work computer!! I can't see the pics, but it sounds solid. It is going to haul ass. 35turn with 14/13:shock::ror:.

billj 11-28-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyj (Post 2765833)
Damn work computer!! I can't see the pics, but it sounds solid. It is going to haul ass. 35turn with 14/13:shock::ror:.

Yea, its pretty fast, i was just telling tyler i might have to change the pinions. Or learn how to stay off the gas:twisted: Maybe ill try adjusting the DX3R throttle curve a little.

thomas 11-28-2010 07:24 PM

lookin good! i love that lathe, im going to have to do that eventualy:D

Mini 11-28-2010 07:40 PM

So I guess x-mas came early for you bill 300's, 35T motors, and some other goodies nice work. Good thing you didn't go wit the 55T motors, and your gonna love those 300's.

crazyorigin 11-28-2010 08:07 PM

The truck looks really good, i like the panels. Nice to see another UGC MOA chassis come to life.

C*H*U*D 11-28-2010 08:30 PM

Very cool Bill "thumbsup" Glad to see you were able to get the shocks working...they are inboard quite a bit, but the XR-10 is built that way.

Hope Tyler is feeling better as the days go by "thumbsup"

flapjack 11-28-2010 08:40 PM

ive built some zero bind shock blocks for this setup....we gotta stick together with these chassis.....ill pm you with pics and info so you can make some yourself...super easy......or ill make you some "thumbsup"

billj 11-28-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C*H*U*D (Post 2766021)
Very cool Bill "thumbsup" Glad to see you were able to get the shocks working...they are inboard quite a bit, but the XR-10 is built that way.

Hope Tyler is feeling better as the days go by "thumbsup"

The shocks are a challenge with these axles, Ill work it out."thumbsup" Tyler is great, thanks for asking. You would never know 3 weeks ago he had neurosurgery. Modern medicine is amazing"thumbsup"

billj 11-28-2010 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flapjack (Post 2766042)
ive built some zero bind shock blocks for this setup....we gotta stick together with these chassis.....ill pm you with pics and info so you can make some yourself...super easy......or ill make you some "thumbsup"

Pics and info would be great, thanks"thumbsup"

billj 11-28-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyorigin (Post 2765966)
The truck looks really good, i like the panels. Nice to see another UGC MOA chassis come to life.

Thanks CO, i haven't had a chance to get my caps from Richard yet. But i plan on trying them this week"thumbsup"

Aggie01 11-28-2010 09:15 PM

I almost hate to look at this thing since I know I will never have one.:x Did you end up robbing you Fastback, or is it still in tact?

Looks awesome Bill! "thumbsup"

billj 11-28-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian3323 (Post 2766125)
I almost hate to look at this thing since I know I will never have one.:x Did you end up robbing you Fastback, or is it still in tact?

Looks awesome Bill! "thumbsup"

My ax10 fastback is a little wounded, took motor,steering servo ,rx , fxr, shocks, wheels/tires. Im probably gonna sell the axles and tranny, to help fund the Berg"thumbsup"

DickyT 11-29-2010 05:38 AM

Rig looks great Bill"thumbsup"

We need to figure out a way to get the shocks inboard.

billj 11-29-2010 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DickyT (Post 2766559)
Rig looks great Bill"thumbsup"

We need to figure out a way to get the shocks inboard.

Thanks Richard, maybe get in some tuning this week at miramar?

DickyT 11-29-2010 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billj (Post 2766565)
Thanks Richard, maybe get in some tuning this week at miramar?

Maybe, my rig in in pieces :lmao: Later in the week should be no issue. Weds or Thurs.

billj 11-29-2010 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DickyT (Post 2766566)
Maybe, my rig in in pieces :lmao: Later in the week should be no issue. Weds or Thurs.

Pieces? What did you break now?:lmao:

DickyT 11-29-2010 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billj (Post 2766568)
Pieces? What did you break now?:lmao:

VP tranny cases coming today, playing around with shocks, and I am having front motor issues as of Saturday, I need to tear it down.

billj 11-29-2010 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DickyT (Post 2766571)
VP tranny cases coming today, playing around with shocks, and I am having front motor issues as of Saturday, I need to tear it down.

Cool, let me know when you want to go? Ill probably get out tue for some rock time. Im really curious to see what its capable of to start with."thumbsup"

DickyT 11-29-2010 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billj (Post 2766578)
Cool, let me know when you want to go? Ill probably get out tue for some rock time. Im really curious to see what its capable of to start with."thumbsup"

If I can get it together tonight and my front motor is not toast I am game to crawl tomorrow.

I crawled npb Friday and Saturday and with out John's compressor there I am willing to be my motor is full of sand. Everything else is...

I meant to check it out yesterday, but my back pain meds had me asleep ALL day.

flapjack 11-29-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billj (Post 2766147)
My ax10 fastback is a little wounded, took motor,steering servo ,rx , fxr, shocks, wheels/tires. Im probably gonna sell the axles and tranny, to help fund the Berg"thumbsup"


i may buy those from ya "thumbsup" going the other way....rebuilding my fb sporty rig for those fun fill in nights

DickyT 11-29-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flapjack (Post 2766832)
i may buy those from ya "thumbsup" going the other way....rebuilding my fb sporty rig for those fun fill in nights

Wait in line sir. I may need his 300's (I sold mine to his son) for a FB sporty build :flipoff:

Tydl 11-29-2010 02:29 PM

I was wondering when you were going to post this up. Now its time to prove yourself.

billj 11-29-2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tydl (Post 2767169)
I was wondering when you were going to post this up. Now its time to prove yourself.

Im just hoping to bring it home Sunday, in one piece:lmao:

richardgarrett56 11-30-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billj (Post 2767750)
Im just hoping to bring it home Sunday, in one piece:lmao:

:flipoff:why play that card:lmao: i would not be worried about breaking that rig..just do your thing!!

billj 11-30-2010 07:22 AM

Do I need to get hardened pins for the mann gears?
What pinions/motors are other people running? What track width (tire outside to outside) front and rear? Thanks for the help

richardgarrett56 11-30-2010 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billj (Post 2768401)
Do I need to get hardened pins for the mann gears?
What pinions/motors are other people running? What track width front and rear? Thanks for the help

45t 14/12.i think them pins are fine.350 up front 225 on the rear..

kennyj 11-30-2010 07:55 AM

I am still running stock(drilled) gears and stock pins. Almost a year now with no problems. (knock, knock, knock)

billj 11-30-2010 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyj (Post 2768435)
I am still running stock(drilled) gears and stock pins. Almost a year now with no problems. (knock, knock, knock)

But i have seen you and Richardgarrett56 both drive, you guys are smooth. I still have the "gas it, it will come out of there" attitude. But im trying to change my style"thumbsup"

billj 11-30-2010 05:56 PM

Well finally got it out on some rocks for a shakedown run, got a few scratches on the axles"thumbsup"
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD072.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD076.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD067.jpg

Then a solder failure at the FXR and i puffed a battery
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD081.jpg

Didnt get much time so hard to tell how the rig was doing. Got home and fixed the wire, and inverted the rear shocks(did the front yesterday)
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD086.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...RGBUILD084.jpg

Mini 11-30-2010 05:57 PM

Looks good. Well? Do you like it?

billj 11-30-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mini (Post 2769733)
Looks good. Well? Do you like it?

Hell yes, i like it. Only got about 10 mins on the rocks today. I still need to learn the front AND rear digs"thumbsup" Im digging it:)

Tydl 12-01-2010 07:20 AM

Boy are you lucky with that solder failure, 10 minutes on the rocks with a brand new rig, it coulda been on fire! How were the rock at Markam?

DickyT 12-01-2010 07:33 AM

After a closer look at your pics, use a piece of 1/4" delrin rod to tie the shocks together, at least the fronts. I worry about breaking the front off the chassis with out it as the chassis was designed with a cross member in that spot.

Since we can't get new ones of we break them now, error on the side of caution. I have a bunch of 1/4" delrin rod if you are out to save you an order. Let me know and I will cut some for you tonight and bring it tomorrow along with your v2 CO caps for big bores.


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