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04-29-2011, 02:16 PM | #1 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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| A little advise on HI knuckles and better steering please
I believe I have the 1st Gen. Enroute Berg axles. There are so many different steering setups it makes my head spin I like the Servo between the axle and the motor but how is that possible? I want to upgrade to the Eric brass knuckle weights but need some help on what knuckles to buy. My HPI mesh wheels have big back spacing so the zero acker wont fit. and my wheels dont turn very far until they hit the links and shock. What Axle width is popular these days? Which Knuckles? Thanks |
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04-29-2011, 02:33 PM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scumrise, Flooriduh
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What you want is 86Jeep steering. He pioneered the servo between the tube and motor. The short and sweet version: You have to machine a servo sized groove into the long tube, make a servo mount, mount the servo mount to the axle then drop the servo into the mount. you also have to drill new motor mount holes in the gear case, then make a tie rod with the right bends to make it all work! |
04-29-2011, 03:09 PM | #3 |
Holmes Hobbies Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: No Where
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You are gonna need to invest in berg offset wheels first. Them upgrade the knuckles. Check with RC Bro's, I bet they will do the whole set up for ya. http://cart.rcbros.com/product_info.php?products_id=251 |
04-29-2011, 04:24 PM | #4 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: kalispell
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Hey DickeyT, do you know of anybody that does that tube work and remounting, if we were to send them our axles
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04-29-2011, 04:25 PM | #5 | ||
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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I think this is the best mod Thanks Quote:
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04-29-2011, 06:24 PM | #6 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: A little town called Dallas
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Search for Clover Custom Design tubes from 66Bronco. Nice set up for weight savings and tons of steering |
04-29-2011, 06:37 PM | #7 |
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And if you don't wanna spend the money on the 86 Jeep set up go with the RCInnovations OTA. Great price and they work awesome. I run that with Vanquish High clearance knuckles and my Berg has awesome steering and it even compares to the XR10's steering. Also upgrading to Super300 CVD's will help you get more steering also. Last edited by James003; 04-29-2011 at 06:38 PM. Reason: more |
04-30-2011, 04:11 PM | #8 |
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I do have the VP knuckles and the s300, but my issue is not having the tools to cut the tube to put the servo between the motor and tube, i have the 20* CDW steering right now but i like the servo arm location for the 86jeep steering better, my steering right now is just right it rubs the shock springs a bit but i would prefer the servo arm on top out or the way like the 86 setup
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04-30-2011, 04:15 PM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Arvada
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I hear you, the 86 Jeep is great. I was just telling you to check out the RCInnovations OTA kits. it works awesome and you turn the servo around so it's completely out of the way also. Just a cheaper option that works just as good in my opinion and you don't have to modify your axle.
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04-30-2011, 04:40 PM | #10 |
RcBros Hobbies Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oregon
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There are many vendors here who offer the machining service to do the 86jeep mod. Clover designs offers a great front tube housing and does the mod for 86jeep steering to boot |
04-30-2011, 09:03 PM | #11 | ||
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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Awesome pics, thanks again I just measured up how u guys stuff the servo in there, sure did get lucky on the tranny/motor mounting design. Now, What wheel type back spacing should I be looking for? I am not going to spend an arm and a leg though, I'll make my own before I do that. UNder $60. I really like CAC so I'll see if rpp has something. Thanks guys Last edited by toy4crawlin; 04-30-2011 at 09:32 PM. | ||
05-01-2011, 10:08 AM | #12 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somewhere near the lake in IL
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Mental note 66bronco from Clover Custom Design will do a 86jeep set up with his axle tubes! Not the cheapest option but when you count unbelievalbe steering, big drops in weight, and just plain hot looking 66bronco is your guy. One another note if your not looking to do tubes, BigRon I think is still doing 86jeep style steering set ups. Either way you go there the work is very verry good and will end up far more precise than the hack saw and dremel mode! Trust me I tried it once It worked but without an endmill getting the groove cut from the tube and depending how deep you need to go can be a big job to tackle. |
05-02-2011, 12:13 PM | #13 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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It does look killer. Wonder why it wasnt done originaly. Good thing I have a milling Machine! !going to drill my gears too | |
05-02-2011, 05:47 PM | #14 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: A little town called Dallas
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| Wartrader are you saying the 66Bronco is Hot Looking? |
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