09-14-2010, 06:21 AM | #1 |
Newbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toowoomba, Qld, Australia
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| Shocks and flex
So it seems the shocks are the first limiting factor on my R1, followed by the upper link axle mounts. When I tried the shocks as springless it gained maybe an inch of flex (front wheel up). I'm running all stock links and mounting points at the moment. Everything else stock besides front diff skid and Rover white tyres. I use mine as a rock crawler rather than a racer, does anyone have any pointers for improving the flex? |
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09-14-2010, 07:19 AM | #2 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Malta
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i had tried the setup as show in the picture.... all i can say is that yes it did gain loads of articlulation but i never ever really tested it on the rocks and right now in on stock setup again. |
09-15-2010, 04:28 AM | #3 |
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Any particular reason why you didn't test it more with those mounting points? Has anyone tested the stock shocks as springless yet? It seems that they'd still need the short springs at the bottom to stop it bottoming out? |
09-15-2010, 11:20 AM | #4 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Malta
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hehe....just thought that since mounting points were not meant for shocks, maybe they wouldnt be strong enough....it also had more thorque twist and was not self leveling back. you can try it since its quite easy to do and convert back.... |
09-15-2010, 07:26 PM | #5 |
Try to Bend it Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth Australia
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Hey Neil, if your getting some where close to 45 degrees of articulation then that is about right. If you have too much flex things start to get unpredictable and binding will become an issue. How much flex do you have now, how much do you want to have? |
09-16-2010, 03:53 AM | #6 |
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I'll have to ramp it up so I can quantify what it's got, and what it gets with mods. As to your last question, you can never have enough flex |
09-16-2010, 05:41 AM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Malta
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certain times less flex works out better....instead of falling into the hole you can just hover over it with the lifted wheel....
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09-16-2010, 08:26 AM | #8 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somewhere in the Sierras.
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| That's not really true if you want the best performance. On mine I lowered ride height and replaced the shocks with limited travel Losi's and the performance is night and day compared to stock, let alone moving the stock shocks. The front move was ok but both made the rig really unusable. Also the stock tires are terrible for crawling. Use a set of Rovers and you'll see a 100% grip improvement. But experiment and find what works best for you. |
09-17-2010, 06:16 AM | #9 |
Newbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toowoomba, Qld, Australia
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I know, I know, I'm just used to full size 4WDing where lots of flex is a lot harder to achieve. I've got a set of rovers with weights installed tonight so I'll try them out on the weekend before deciding what I need to change.
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09-26-2010, 08:59 PM | #10 |
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mine are on a big angle inward and I get a annoying amount of twist out of the body and it likes to pop a tire on climbs real bad.
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09-27-2010, 10:24 AM | #11 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The Divide
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Hmmm, i have my shox mounted like in the picture... angled down instead of perpendicular to the ground... it increased my articulation to the point I had to limit the rear with fuel tube... it also allowed my buggy to sidehill better and hold its line while climbing vetical... I did notice an improvment in my driving after moving the shox... But i feel it may just be a personal preference...
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