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Rockrider1984 · 11-01-2010, 09:43 PM

Ok early last year me and my bro both bought Rock Riders tried getting them to work with the stock shocks (which are junk!!!) move all the links around in new positions still did work for crap... Bought the black longer RC4WD shocks still not better at all, got so pissed that i forgot about it until now and am thinking about giving it another try or try selling the hunk and get something else.

The thing has killer flex when i have it in my hands but when crawling the torque twist is the worst and when crawling up a rock with the either the driver or pass front tire (cant remember) the other front tire follows and doesnt flex at all...

I was thinking about trying the new Gmade shocks in a droop setup and see if it helps but on the other hand i dont want to be throwing more money at something that is gonna piss me off so thats why i am leaning in the direction of selling the damn thing.

Thanks to anyone who can help me decide on what to do!!!

joeyf · 11-02-2010, 11:26 AM

i would ditch the chassis and get one from the chassis/vender section. when i had mine it took alot to just make it work ok

K_B · 11-02-2010, 12:04 PM

First off, stay away from the off-brand shocks. Get yourself a proven set of shocks like the Losi Crawler shocks. If you go to the droop setup, that will help with the torque twist significantly. If you want to stick with a sprung setup, use stiffer springs and thicker oil in the rear.

Shawn M · 11-02-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockrider1984

when crawling up a rock with the either the driver or pass front tire (cant remember) the other front tire follows and doesnt flex at all...

This isn't so much a problem with the shocks, as it is with suspension layout and setup. Try going back to stock settings and change one thing at a time and see what it does. This will take a while, but will be much cheaper than just buying shocks and being frustrated.

OR

Buy a Losi

Rockrider1984 · 11-02-2010, 03:57 PM

Its a toss up between the Losi shocks or the Gmade's i might just go with the losi's since they are proven to work... I have tried every layout with the suspension i can and still no good thats why i was looking into a droop setup for it, I think a semi drop would work better for my crawling needs so i have a little more ground clearence... Another thing i was thinking might be a problem is i have my 6 cell pack mounted to my tranny causing alot of weight on the chassis which might be making my torque twist worse any ideas on that??? Also I only have 30 weight oil in my shocks front and rear should i try a thicker weight oil??? Maybe keep the 30 in the front and some thicker stuff out back?

Rockrider1984 · 11-02-2010, 04:01 PM

Also "joeyf" did you just do a chassis and use your axles and tranny on a new chassis or did you get a whole new truck kit... I dont want to throw a butt load of money at this thing cause its just a fun toy no comps but i do want a truck that works.

K_B · 11-02-2010, 04:22 PM

Thicker oil won't help with the torque twist, but stiffer springs will and you'll need thicker oil to compensate for the increased rebound or the thing is gonna get floppy. Definitely do something with the battery. Get it mounted on the axle somehow or mounted on top of the upper front links. That will certainly help.

The Rock Riders require tons of fiddling to work even remotely well. One of our very smart experienced guys screwed around with his forever before finally giving up. He did get it to work well, but for comps, it wasn't up to par. Experiment with different link mounting positions on the rear links; either mounted further up or further down. That should help as well.

joeyf · 11-02-2010, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockrider1984

Also "joeyf" did you just do a chassis and use your axles and tranny on a new chassis or did you get a whole new truck kit... I dont want to throw a butt load of money at this thing cause its just a fun toy no comps but i do want a truck that works.

yes, just a chassis. swaped everything over from the rider

Rockrider1984 · 11-02-2010, 06:02 PM

My head is killing me i have been reading through a bunch of link theory threads and i am all confused now... What chassis did you end up going with Joey and any recommendations???

joeyf · 11-02-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockrider1984

My head is killing me i have been reading through a bunch of link theory threads and i am all confused now... What chassis did you end up going with Joey and any recommendations???

i went with a JP custom, running a mayham engineering chassis now.

Rockrider1984 · 11-02-2010, 08:48 PM

Can anyone recommend a chassis for me that will work with my r2 tranny and the stock rock rider axles???

11-01-2010, 09:43 PM	#1
Rockrider1984 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Morrison Posts: 11	Someone help me like my Rock Rider!!! Ok early last year me and my bro both bought Rock Riders tried getting them to work with the stock shocks (which are junk!!!) move all the links around in new positions still did work for crap... Bought the black longer RC4WD shocks still not better at all, got so pissed that i forgot about it until now and am thinking about giving it another try or try selling the hunk and get something else. The thing has killer flex when i have it in my hands but when crawling the torque twist is the worst and when crawling up a rock with the either the driver or pass front tire (cant remember) the other front tire follows and doesnt flex at all... I was thinking about trying the new Gmade shocks in a droop setup and see if it helps but on the other hand i dont want to be throwing more money at something that is gonna piss me off so thats why i am leaning in the direction of selling the damn thing. Thanks to anyone who can help me decide on what to do!!!

11-02-2010, 11:26 AM	#2
joeyf RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: burlington Posts: 1,042	i would ditch the chassis and get one from the chassis/vender section. when i had mine it took alot to just make it work ok

11-02-2010, 12:04 PM	#3
K_B I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2005 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,048	First off, stay away from the off-brand shocks. Get yourself a proven set of shocks like the Losi Crawler shocks. If you go to the droop setup, that will help with the torque twist significantly. If you want to stick with a sprung setup, use stiffer springs and thicker oil in the rear.

11-02-2010, 03:57 PM	#5
Rockrider1984 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Morrison Posts: 11	Its a toss up between the Losi shocks or the Gmade's i might just go with the losi's since they are proven to work... I have tried every layout with the suspension i can and still no good thats why i was looking into a droop setup for it, I think a semi drop would work better for my crawling needs so i have a little more ground clearence... Another thing i was thinking might be a problem is i have my 6 cell pack mounted to my tranny causing alot of weight on the chassis which might be making my torque twist worse any ideas on that??? Also I only have 30 weight oil in my shocks front and rear should i try a thicker weight oil??? Maybe keep the 30 in the front and some thicker stuff out back?

11-02-2010, 04:01 PM	#6
Rockrider1984 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Morrison Posts: 11	Also "joeyf" did you just do a chassis and use your axles and tranny on a new chassis or did you get a whole new truck kit... I dont want to throw a butt load of money at this thing cause its just a fun toy no comps but i do want a truck that works.

11-02-2010, 04:22 PM	#7
K_B I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2005 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,048	Thicker oil won't help with the torque twist, but stiffer springs will and you'll need thicker oil to compensate for the increased rebound or the thing is gonna get floppy. Definitely do something with the battery. Get it mounted on the axle somehow or mounted on top of the upper front links. That will certainly help. The Rock Riders require tons of fiddling to work even remotely well. One of our very smart experienced guys screwed around with his forever before finally giving up. He did get it to work well, but for comps, it wasn't up to par. Experiment with different link mounting positions on the rear links; either mounted further up or further down. That should help as well.

11-02-2010, 06:02 PM	#9
Rockrider1984 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Morrison Posts: 11	My head is killing me i have been reading through a bunch of link theory threads and i am all confused now... What chassis did you end up going with Joey and any recommendations???

11-02-2010, 08:48 PM	#11
Rockrider1984 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Morrison Posts: 11	Can anyone recommend a chassis for me that will work with my r2 tranny and the stock rock rider axles???

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