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00TJ · 06-27-2006, 03:20 PM

well the front anyway. So far.......

aluminum angle and flat stock, a few bolts and walla!

Edit: thanks to Gizmo for the insparation!

icu_runnin · 06-27-2006, 03:26 PM

looks good. Might want to add some kind of gussett to keep it from wanting to push the axle back into the chassis.

00TJ · 06-27-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by icu_runnin

looks good. Might want to add some kind of gussett to keep it from wanting to push the axle back into the chassis.

Thats what I was just outside testing. It worked ok, but I will most likely end up adding a brace of some sort. it does add a little bit more flex, w/o getting to crazy. I crawled up an inch farther on my 30* rti ramp. it ramped a 1970, compared to a 1918. I plan to do the rear as well. should flex well!

skidooguymxz550 · 06-27-2006, 04:32 PM

thats cool, nice work

Gizmo · 06-27-2006, 06:29 PM

hey man looks good, if the axle starts wrapping much just add another pivot on the very back of the axle. Glad to see that there are a few new designs on these nylints. I was getting bored with all the same mods.

Jeepernick · 06-27-2006, 08:23 PM

wow that made me think... only because I was thinking a 4-link setup would pop up

very cool idea, never been done, asssure u that much

now the back?

00TJ · 06-27-2006, 09:07 PM

yeah, the back is next. I just wanted to do some testing before I went ahead and started the rear. so far it seems to work well. I just need to add a brace of some sort, to keep the axle from moving forward and backward. so after perfecting the front, rear fer sure!

Robb · 06-27-2006, 09:20 PM

So, you eliminated all up-down travel of the axle?

00TJ · 06-27-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Robb

So, you eliminated all up-down travel of the axle?

yeah, I suppose. if thats how you look at it. if you look closely at the arms during flex they mostly sit right on the stops anyway. so I figured I didn't need them. and I did gain a little flex, about an inch higher up my 30* RTI ramp. so I guess the arms don't do much, besides locating the axle. and get hung up on stuff. I'm sure others will have different opinions. I'm by no means a suspension expert, so I welcome them.

Gizmo · 06-27-2006, 11:24 PM

you loose all up and down travel in the suspension. There is realy no reason to have the up and down travel. I feel that when i did mine it actually helped in the sense that if you have axle hop it will have to directly move the entire chassis with it, reducing axle hop. This is just my oppinion.

Jeepernick · 06-27-2006, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Robb

So, you eliminated all up-down travel of the axle?

Damnit, why did i think of that?

I knew there was something stupid about this setup

I take back what I said above(about it being very cool)

it is different, although not in a good way

see it is nice to have the axle move vertical and horizontally.... up and down is good and so is side to side...... but prove me wrong

have u tested it out and how does it work?

maybe i will take back what i said in this post...maybe?

Action shots

Jeepernick · 06-27-2006, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizmo

you loose all up and down travel in the suspension. There is realy no reason to have the up and down travel. I feel that when i did mine it actually helped in the sense that if you have axle hop it will have to directly move the entire chassis with it, reducing axle hop. This is just my oppinion.

keep going, u have something here?

TLTCrawlin · 06-27-2006, 11:46 PM

How about where the pin is on the axle, take that out, make your alum have a drilled out slot so the axle can move up and down to a limited up and down, so it works out! LOL Im so dam smart, not!!

Gizmo · 06-28-2006, 12:02 AM

All i am saying is that there is pretty much no reason for up and down movement in the suspension, unless you are carrying a payload. The main reason that 1:1 crawlers have up and down movement is because there is a driver in it, who needs to be supported to keep control of the vehicle. Another positive aspect of this suspension is that when you are decending a steep hill and you come off of a little ledge, the suspension will max out in up travel in the rear and bottom out the front suspension, shifting alot of weight that does not need to be shifted. By eliminating up and down travel, when you decend that same hill the weight will not be shifted any more than it absolutely needs to and the rig will be much more stable. Also you can lower the chassis by moving the pivot point up towards the chassis, reducing COG.

Jeepernick · 06-28-2006, 01:06 AM

when i see action shots I will believe, not tell

00TJ · 06-28-2006, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeepernick

when i see action shots I will believe, not tell

heres some from yesterday...

Seems to work fine to me, besides the need for a gusset.

Jeepernick · 06-28-2006, 09:44 AM

Very nice,

00TJ · 06-28-2006, 01:53 PM

well finished the rear this afternoon. It gave the jeep a little more flex, not much though. maybe a 1/4 to 1/2 more. all in all I see no drawbacks as of yet. I think it works pretty well, and I gets rid of the ugly arms!

I dont have any outdoor pics of it in action yet, Its raining:-( again. but a couple poser shots....

Gizmo · 06-28-2006, 02:00 PM

looks good, and pretty clean! nice work.

icu_runnin · 06-28-2006, 02:35 PM

I said it before and i will say it again.. Nice work. Figure out some kind of traction device to keep the axle from wrapping up and bending the new pivot points.

06-27-2006, 03:20 PM	#1
00TJ Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: staring in your window Posts: 66	Bye Bye Blue arms! well the front anyway. So far....... aluminum angle and flat stock, a few bolts and walla! Edit: thanks to Gizmo for the insparation!

06-28-2006, 01:53 PM	#18
00TJ Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: staring in your window Posts: 66	rears done! well finished the rear this afternoon. It gave the jeep a little more flex, not much though. maybe a 1/4 to 1/2 more. all in all I see no drawbacks as of yet. I think it works pretty well, and I gets rid of the ugly arms! I dont have any outdoor pics of it in action yet, Its raining:-( again. but a couple poser shots....

06-27-2006, 03:26 PM	#2
icu_runnin Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fort Worth! Need a Address?? Posts: 149	looks good. Might want to add some kind of gussett to keep it from wanting to push the axle back into the chassis.

06-27-2006, 04:32 PM	#4
skidooguymxz550 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the great brown north=(WI) Posts: 352	thats cool, nice work

06-27-2006, 06:29 PM	#5
Gizmo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 244	hey man looks good, if the axle starts wrapping much just add another pivot on the very back of the axle. Glad to see that there are a few new designs on these nylints. I was getting bored with all the same mods.

06-27-2006, 08:23 PM	#6
Jeepernick RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: $t. Helen$, OR Posts: 1,082	wow that made me think... only because I was thinking a 4-link setup would pop up very cool idea, never been done, asssure u that much now the back?

06-27-2006, 09:07 PM	#7
00TJ Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: staring in your window Posts: 66	yeah, the back is next. I just wanted to do some testing before I went ahead and started the rear. so far it seems to work well. I just need to add a brace of some sort, to keep the axle from moving forward and backward. so after perfecting the front, rear fer sure!

06-27-2006, 09:20 PM	#8
Robb RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VARCOR Posts: 1,826	So, you eliminated all up-down travel of the axle?

06-27-2006, 11:24 PM	#10
Gizmo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 244	you loose all up and down travel in the suspension. There is realy no reason to have the up and down travel. I feel that when i did mine it actually helped in the sense that if you have axle hop it will have to directly move the entire chassis with it, reducing axle hop. This is just my oppinion.

06-27-2006, 11:46 PM	#13
TLTCrawlin I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Eastern WA Posts: 2,489	How about where the pin is on the axle, take that out, make your alum have a drilled out slot so the axle can move up and down to a limited up and down, so it works out! LOL Im so dam smart, not!!

06-28-2006, 12:02 AM	#14
Gizmo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 244	All i am saying is that there is pretty much no reason for up and down movement in the suspension, unless you are carrying a payload. The main reason that 1:1 crawlers have up and down movement is because there is a driver in it, who needs to be supported to keep control of the vehicle. Another positive aspect of this suspension is that when you are decending a steep hill and you come off of a little ledge, the suspension will max out in up travel in the rear and bottom out the front suspension, shifting alot of weight that does not need to be shifted. By eliminating up and down travel, when you decend that same hill the weight will not be shifted any more than it absolutely needs to and the rig will be much more stable. Also you can lower the chassis by moving the pivot point up towards the chassis, reducing COG.

06-28-2006, 01:06 AM	#15
Jeepernick RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: $t. Helen$, OR Posts: 1,082	when i see action shots I will believe, not tell

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06-28-2006, 09:44 AM	#17
Jeepernick RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: $t. Helen$, OR Posts: 1,082	Very nice,

06-28-2006, 02:00 PM	#19
Gizmo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 244	looks good, and pretty clean! nice work.

06-28-2006, 02:35 PM	#20
icu_runnin Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fort Worth! Need a Address?? Posts: 149	I said it before and i will say it again.. Nice work. Figure out some kind of traction device to keep the axle from wrapping up and bending the new pivot points.

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