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johnathanlopez · 07-28-2006, 10:48 PM

im building a txt tuber and was wondering if anyone has done a 1 link with a panhard bar? i have it rigged up, but the weak spot in it is the traxxas ball ends... they flex. Has anyone ever tried this with any sucess? Thanks

Johnathan

thaclodking · 07-29-2006, 03:03 AM

I have seen 1:1 rigs with this setup, using trailer balls and hitches! I have yet to see one here. I say go for it, you can use Maxx steering balls which should be stout enough for the link, and the regular links for the trac-bar. They should hold up to that.

EeePee · 07-29-2006, 05:36 AM

Didn't Cole82 do a 1 link Panharder?

Jamus · 07-29-2006, 10:07 AM

Someone did one on a clod. I copied the design using nylint axles. I used some 3/8" OVERKILL heims I had laying around. It turned out to be too heavy but worked great as far as suspension travel is concerned. I'd say check mcmaster or somewhere and definitely use a good metal heim on the 1-link, maybe the panhard as well.

johnathanlopez · 07-29-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thaclodking

I have seen 1:1 rigs with this setup, using trailer balls and hitches! I have yet to see one here. I say go for it, you can use Maxx steering balls which should be stout enough for the link, and the regular links for the trac-bar. They should hold up to that.

yeah this is where i got the idea from. i have a jeep outside in my driveway awaiting some rockwells and i was thinkin 1 link with a panhard bar for them. but i wouldnt use the hitch and ball method... ide actually make the links and stuff.

Im going to look around for some small stout heims and a goooood way to displace the force over the axle. i think if i just have the heims bolted to the axle the housing may crack where they are connected due to stress this design puts on the axles. i think i have something that will work though, i just gotta figure out a way to make the heim NOT move at all on the axle.

I made the panhard bar out of a steering link, and it worked out well. I will probally just use it unless the new link design doesnt work.

Thanks for the input and i will keep you guys updated.

Cole82 · 07-29-2006, 11:04 AM

Yep I made one it worked pretty dam good. Some of the other members on here saw it perform too. It was neat just watching it do it's thing.
Simple Clod 2

Jamus · 07-29-2006, 11:15 AM

Cole, that's the one I copied, great design.

In 1:1 1-links they make a wishbone like link. You could do similar. Run links from the big heim to atleast 4 places, where'd you would normally attach a 4-link. Then braze or solder all those links together. Even plate the bottom. 4 small RC rodends should be strong enough and shouldn't put undu stress on the axle housing since it sees 4 mounting points in a normal 4-link. It's a good thing you're using the TXT axles, it will move the driveshaft up and above the 1-link. They work better in 1:1 with rockwells than normal axles.

blue-beard · 07-29-2006, 01:12 PM

One thing to be warry of is all the anti squat it will give. I don't know how it will affect an RC car but on a 1:1 rig they give quite a bit of anti sqaut so I would think it would make some wicked tourqe steer on the txt. The clod I'm sure is more ideal becasue it can't get tourqe steer due to motors on axles.
I really don't know though how it would affect an RC so I say go for it.

Jamus · 07-29-2006, 02:50 PM

I didn't mention the AS aspect casue I see many RCs on here with the upper and lower links mounted on a common bolt, which would give you the exact same AS number as the 1-link. I've mentioned this before though, many things seem to work in the RC world that would be a disaster in 1:1. Like buggy leafs and no tracbar.

gregrocks90046 · 07-29-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by johnathanlopez

im building a txt tuber and was wondering if anyone has done a 1 link with a panhard bar? i have it rigged up, but the weak spot in it is the traxxas ball ends... they flex. Has anyone ever tried this with any sucess? Thanks

Johnathan

yeah, the traxxas ball ends are garbage for anything heavier than a TLT, in my opinion. you could use RC4WD aluminum ball ends(mine are threaded for 3mm, you can get them in different thread sizes) or those fat 10mm ball ends made by g-made.

johnathanlopez · 07-29-2006, 06:47 PM

thanks greg, ill check them out now... !

Reflection · 07-29-2006, 09:34 PM

I don't like the 1 link deal,but if you do it,you'll need a heavy duty ball end. I was running some rod ends made by Dura Traxx that would be up to the task. They accept #10 all thread for the link side and are mounted up to the chassis with a #8 bolt. VERY burly rod end in my book.

07-28-2006, 10:48 PM	#1
johnathanlopez Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: College Station Posts: 109	one link w/ panhard bar...?? im building a txt tuber and was wondering if anyone has done a 1 link with a panhard bar? i have it rigged up, but the weak spot in it is the traxxas ball ends... they flex. Has anyone ever tried this with any sucess? Thanks Johnathan

07-29-2006, 03:03 AM	#2
thaclodking Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: a place of settlement, activity, or residence. Posts: 842	I have seen 1:1 rigs with this setup, using trailer balls and hitches! I have yet to see one here. I say go for it, you can use Maxx steering balls which should be stout enough for the link, and the regular links for the trac-bar. They should hold up to that.

07-29-2006, 05:36 AM	#3
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Didn't Cole82 do a 1 link Panharder?

07-29-2006, 10:07 AM	#4
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	Someone did one on a clod. I copied the design using nylint axles. I used some 3/8" OVERKILL heims I had laying around. It turned out to be too heavy but worked great as far as suspension travel is concerned. I'd say check mcmaster or somewhere and definitely use a good metal heim on the 1-link, maybe the panhard as well.

07-29-2006, 11:04 AM	#6
Cole82 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids Posts: 2,028	Yep I made one it worked pretty dam good. Some of the other members on here saw it perform too. It was neat just watching it do it's thing. Simple Clod 2

07-29-2006, 11:15 AM	#7
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	Cole, that's the one I copied, great design. In 1:1 1-links they make a wishbone like link. You could do similar. Run links from the big heim to atleast 4 places, where'd you would normally attach a 4-link. Then braze or solder all those links together. Even plate the bottom. 4 small RC rodends should be strong enough and shouldn't put undu stress on the axle housing since it sees 4 mounting points in a normal 4-link. It's a good thing you're using the TXT axles, it will move the driveshaft up and above the 1-link. They work better in 1:1 with rockwells than normal axles.

07-29-2006, 01:12 PM	#8
blue-beard Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Danville Posts: 375	One thing to be warry of is all the anti squat it will give. I don't know how it will affect an RC car but on a 1:1 rig they give quite a bit of anti sqaut so I would think it would make some wicked tourqe steer on the txt. The clod I'm sure is more ideal becasue it can't get tourqe steer due to motors on axles. I really don't know though how it would affect an RC so I say go for it.

07-29-2006, 02:50 PM	#9
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	I didn't mention the AS aspect casue I see many RCs on here with the upper and lower links mounted on a common bolt, which would give you the exact same AS number as the 1-link. I've mentioned this before though, many things seem to work in the RC world that would be a disaster in 1:1. Like buggy leafs and no tracbar.

07-29-2006, 06:47 PM	#11
johnathanlopez Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: College Station Posts: 109	thanks greg, ill check them out now... !

07-29-2006, 09:34 PM	#12
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	I don't like the 1 link deal,but if you do it,you'll need a heavy duty ball end. I was running some rod ends made by Dura Traxx that would be up to the task. They accept #10 all thread for the link side and are mounted up to the chassis with a #8 bolt. VERY burly rod end in my book.

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