wish bone or links

[allgm1]

I posted somewhat the same question in the maxx forums here but I don't think there's as much traffic there as there is here, so maybe someone here can help me out. I'm in the process of building a maxx based crawler (tube chassis) and have a question. which would be better or what are the advantages/ disadvantages to wishbone upper links as opposed to individual links. Does one set up do something the other won't? my set up will have double triangulated links if I go the individual link way

[2JSC]

The good thing about a wishbone(3-link?) would be that the axle steer would be less, meaning the axle wont move from side to side as much, but you might suffer in the articulation department.

With a good setup on a 4-link, you can eliminate all of those issues.

[Cole82]

Originally Posted by 2JSC

The good thing about a wishbone(3-link?) would be that the axle steer would be less, meaning the axle wont move from side to side as much, but you might suffer in the articulation department.

With a good setup on a 4-link, you can eliminate all of those issues.

Mmm NO! you don't know what axle steer is. You are talking lateral movement.

A triangulated 4 link is the best way to reduce axle steer and roll center.

A three link doesn't reduce articulation one bit.


Build wich ever one you want. You can get either to work very well.

[2JSC]

[Cole82]

Originally Posted by 2JSC

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[Offroader5]

He's right...a 3 link doesn't hinder articulation in the least...as long as it's designed correctly

[miller]

Really a wishbone is still a four link..there are still four links...one just has a combined mounting point. Three link is three links and a panhard that prevents latteral movement...usually done for clearance issues...like a gas tank not making a four link possible. Either one is gonna work if it's done right...do what's easiest for you with what you have.

[Cole82]

Originally Posted by miller

Really a wishbone is still a four link..there are still four links...one just has a combined mounting point. Three link is three links and a panhard that prevents latteral movement...usually done for clearance issues...like a gas tank not making a four link possible. Either one is gonna work if it's done right...do what's easiest for you with what you have.

If it's a wishbone 3 link it's not four links.;)
Example not my work

[allgm1]

my thoughts were to use a wishbone set-up and mount a battery pack on it, cuz with a locked out maxx a arm set-up there isn't a whole lot of room on the axle

[Offroader5]

Oh, horse pucky If you use a saddle pack, you could easily fit 3 or 4 2/3A cells on each side of the center diff right on top of the upper control arm. All kinds of room up there

Originally Posted by allgm1

my thoughts were to use a wishbone set-up and mount a battery pack on it, cuz with a locked out maxx a arm set-up there isn't a whole lot of room on the axle

[Cole82]

What he said lots of room.
Get rid of the servo saver. You will have a hard time turning the tires with it on there.

[miller]

Originally Posted by Cole82

If it's a wishbone 3 link it's not four links.;)
Example not my work

That three link with wishbone is going to work the exact same way as a four link...so again a wishbone three link is esentially a four link with the same mounting point on one end. That's what I'm saying...you're not going to have a noticeable difference in performance with a wishbone 3link or a 4link if the mounts are in the same spot...so if you don't have room to mount links side by side then do a wishbone, it's not going to perform any better or worse.

This is a three link with panhard that is very different from a four link.
http://www.trail-gear.com/trail-link.html

[Offroader5]

If you really want to get picky...the one you posted is a 4 link. the panhard/track bar is the 4th link. The front of say a Jeep is a 5 link because it has 4 separate axle links and then also a track bar.:-P

Your point is valid though...no real difference if they are set up the same geometrically.

Originally Posted by miller

That three link with wishbone is going to work the exact same way as a four link...so again a wishbone three link is esentially a four link with the same mounting point on one end. That's what I'm saying...you're not going to have a noticeable difference in performance with a wishbone 3link or a 4link if the mounts are in the same spot...so if you don't have room to mount links side by side then do a wishbone, it's not going to perform any better or worse.

This is a three link with panhard that is very different from a four link.
http://www.trail-gear.com/trail-link.html

[miller]

[toy4crawlin]

Trianglated 4 link, no axle steer, if set up correctly
3 link with panhard is getting popular but I don't think it would work well with a max while still using the a arms

my first max I put batteries like this 1st pic

2nd pic
then after breaking axles and being to wide I revised the whole rig & narrowed it all and put batteries behind the axle because of limited steering link space