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TAT76 · 09-24-2010, 05:54 PM

How do you guys feel about driving? Do you but much thought into your driving after doing a build as close to scale as possible? What is to much WS for scale? I mean in a real truck you wouldn't floor it turning this way and that till it hooked up then shot you to the next point.

Something I've always thought about and wanted to hear how you think.

TAT76 · 09-25-2010, 06:15 AM

No one thinks about it?

Big Bill · 09-25-2010, 06:40 AM

Yes I do think about it sometimes, like when I have a new body that I just painted or a freshly built bumper that Iam trying to push a rock 10 times bigger that my truck out of the way with

I sometimes think now would I try this with my daily driver if I was out doing a little trail run, usuallly there is NO way I would go over, under, up, or down some of the places I make my scaler go. But after the first scar on the body or bumpers its game on.

rustykaos · 09-25-2010, 08:25 AM

I think this is the whole point to this sport. In scale terms you see something that wouldn't drive your 1:1 over but think just maybe... So you then try this with your scaler and either acoomplish it or fail miserably without damaging your bigger more expensive toy.

Just my 2c.

Big Mike · 09-25-2010, 11:11 AM

Depends on what you're building. If it looks like it exists to be a beater, beat on it. If you're building something more show-quality looking but still not a shelf queen, then you drive it accordingly. Same as the 1:1 world.

I don't like doing a lot of work to make a truck look true to scale and pleasing to the eye only to take it out and beat the crap out of it. I drive mine the same way I'd drive a real 1:1 truck that looked as nice, I try to drive lines that make sense and keep the rubber side down...

TAT76 · 09-25-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Mike

I try to drive lines that make sense and keep the rubber side down...

From shelfqueen to beater I drive as if I'm in the truck and its a 1;1. Crazy WS or punching the throttle to launch over a log rock I feel you wouldn't have or do true scale so don't expect your scale truck too.

canadianbacon · 09-25-2010, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAT76

From shelfqueen to beater I drive as if I'm in the truck and its a 1;1. Crazy WS or punching the throttle to launch over a log rock I feel you wouldn't have or do true scale so don't expect your scale truck too.

I feel the same way, also with flying over the rocks with big speed, you're crawling not racing.

BigSki · 09-25-2010, 12:48 PM

I personally drive my scalers like I'm running away from the Russian mofia! There are times when I'll go gently so as not to tear up the trail but most of the time it's just a huge bash session. I figure that if it breaks, I'll simply pick it up, toss it into the trunk of the Camry and take it home to fix it, something you can't do when you break a 1:1 rig deep in the woods or desert.

mulepic · 09-25-2010, 08:48 PM

This is a good topic b/c as I watch some of these videos it occurs to me that a Toyota pickup or Range Rover daily driver isn't gonig to fly into a rock and bounce/jump to the next one. When I off road my land cruiser (which I drive daily) slow and control is key.

I'm in the process of building a scaler. I'm using Kyosho Rock Force axles (30:1) mated to a summit tranny (7:1 or 20:1 roughly w/ my pinion/spur). With a 600:1 ratio I first noticed that the truck moves more naturally over the rocks just like my cruiser. Second the tires hook up on things that they never would in high gear (210:1). I know it sounds like a crazy low gearing but I run it w/ a 3s lipo and 8.5T Novak brushless. It goes pretty good in high gear but it has amazing slow torque. I'll add it to the 2.2 section one of these days.

Shadow Fox · 09-25-2010, 08:58 PM

usually when I'm going through a technical part I'll take it slow...but for more flat stuff i'll go full boogy down it.

I also slowly let off the throttle before coming to a complete stop with my truck becasue it's got a drag brake and if you suddenly let go of the throttle it'll force the whole truck to come to a suden halt.

ae racer · 09-25-2010, 10:41 PM

I agree that with a new paint job im always more careful. Same with a hard body b/c they arent as durable as lexan bodies. But after the first scratch in my clod, i was WOT when i needed to get over a rock or when im on flat b/c going scale speeds between obstacles takes too long. Now i am going to be building some trucks that will be light duty trail rigs that i will keep the possibities of close calls to a minimum.

blukon98 · 09-26-2010, 06:14 PM

I like to beat on my 1:1 so I do the same with my scaler, but there are times when slow control is key, a lot of it comes from knowing your rig and what looks more scale at what speed

TAT76 · 09-26-2010, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blukon98

I like to beat on my 1:1 so I do the same with my scaler, but there are times when slow control is key, a lot of it comes from knowing your rig and what looks more scale at what speed

Like to see pics of your 1;1.

adamargue · 09-26-2010, 06:40 PM

When I drive mine I run it pretty slow but I like to see just how far it will go and I like to take sketchy lines and just see if my rubber will stay planted. My trucks a a lot if scratches but that comes with the territory. I don't see how u could build a crawler or trail truck and not scratch it.

blukon98 · 09-26-2010, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAT76

Like to see pics of your 1;1.

No pics but here's a vid, its nothing special though, just a beater

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLWdeuTROg

sloppy · 09-26-2010, 07:34 PM

Scaler or not I am gonna take it out and push it over the hardest lines I can find. That is the same way I would drive any dedicated offroad truck..

Quote:

Originally Posted by blukon98

No pics but here's a vid, its nothing special though, just a beater

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLWdeuTROg

Man that was SO not scale

blukon98 · 09-26-2010, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloppy

Scaler or not I am gonna take it out and push it over the hardest lines I can find. That is the same way I would drive any dedicated offroad truck..

Man that was SO not scale

Yes so! Lots of "scale" wheelspin!

BLOODBANE · 09-26-2010, 08:45 PM

Sometimes I will "hammer it" and hope for the best in my 1.1(c'mon I have a 347 stroker in a short wheel base Ranger), but most of it is slow crawling. I haven't broke any axle shafts yet, but its only a matter of time. With my scaler there is a lot more speed, for the reason that its a lot easier to get out of a bad situation(breakage). Just nature of the beast we call crawling. If it was as hard to get your scaler out, you would be a lot more careful.

gottorque · 09-26-2010, 09:22 PM

being a relative newb to the scaler class (just got an scx), i have found that the donor electronics from my comp truck which is a 50 turn on 2s make the speed pretty beliveable. It not fast but you have enough wheel speed to add that coolness factor when dinking around in the playground sand pit and you see the truck flexing as it goes over the "dunes" rather than skim over it and commonly drive it from eye level when possible. Also i have to take in to consideration the fact the 1:1 im basing my build off of has a top speed of around 50

I do admit to driving it on my comp course

arthurc10 · 09-26-2010, 09:31 PM

Its either/ or for me. Sometimes I will take it slow, 50% throttle, etc. Technical lines, battery conservation, steep terrain all call for less throttle. Flats, creeks, scale "rivers," jumps, and things like that call for 100%. Towing trailers and pulling my buddies call for 100% and pulling them over the biggest rocks I can find. lol

09-24-2010, 05:54 PM	#1
TAT76 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: your back yard Posts: 1,305	Scale driving How do you guys feel about driving? Do you but much thought into your driving after doing a build as close to scale as possible? What is to much WS for scale? I mean in a real truck you wouldn't floor it turning this way and that till it hooked up then shot you to the next point. Something I've always thought about and wanted to hear how you think.

09-25-2010, 06:15 AM	#2
TAT76 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: your back yard Posts: 1,305	No one thinks about it?

09-25-2010, 06:40 AM	#3
Big Bill Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fortuna Calif. Posts: 997	Yes I do think about it sometimes, like when I have a new body that I just painted or a freshly built bumper that Iam trying to push a rock 10 times bigger that my truck out of the way with I sometimes think now would I try this with my daily driver if I was out doing a little trail run, usuallly there is NO way I would go over, under, up, or down some of the places I make my scaler go. But after the first scar on the body or bumpers its game on.

09-25-2010, 08:25 AM	#4
rustykaos Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 268	I think this is the whole point to this sport. In scale terms you see something that wouldn't drive your 1:1 over but think just maybe... So you then try this with your scaler and either acoomplish it or fail miserably without damaging your bigger more expensive toy. Just my 2c.

09-25-2010, 11:11 AM	#5
Big Mike I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Martinsburg WV Posts: 2,781	Depends on what you're building. If it looks like it exists to be a beater, beat on it. If you're building something more show-quality looking but still not a shelf queen, then you drive it accordingly. Same as the 1:1 world. I don't like doing a lot of work to make a truck look true to scale and pleasing to the eye only to take it out and beat the crap out of it. I drive mine the same way I'd drive a real 1:1 truck that looked as nice, I try to drive lines that make sense and keep the rubber side down...

09-25-2010, 12:48 PM	#8
BigSki I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 4,442	I personally drive my scalers like I'm running away from the Russian mofia! There are times when I'll go gently so as not to tear up the trail but most of the time it's just a huge bash session. I figure that if it breaks, I'll simply pick it up, toss it into the trunk of the Camry and take it home to fix it, something you can't do when you break a 1:1 rig deep in the woods or desert.

09-25-2010, 08:48 PM	#9
mulepic Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: phx Posts: 208	This is a good topic b/c as I watch some of these videos it occurs to me that a Toyota pickup or Range Rover daily driver isn't gonig to fly into a rock and bounce/jump to the next one. When I off road my land cruiser (which I drive daily) slow and control is key. I'm in the process of building a scaler. I'm using Kyosho Rock Force axles (30:1) mated to a summit tranny (7:1 or 20:1 roughly w/ my pinion/spur). With a 600:1 ratio I first noticed that the truck moves more naturally over the rocks just like my cruiser. Second the tires hook up on things that they never would in high gear (210:1). I know it sounds like a crazy low gearing but I run it w/ a 3s lipo and 8.5T Novak brushless. It goes pretty good in high gear but it has amazing slow torque. I'll add it to the 2.2 section one of these days.

09-25-2010, 08:58 PM	#10
Shadow Fox Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 511	usually when I'm going through a technical part I'll take it slow...but for more flat stuff i'll go full boogy down it. I also slowly let off the throttle before coming to a complete stop with my truck becasue it's got a drag brake and if you suddenly let go of the throttle it'll force the whole truck to come to a suden halt.

09-25-2010, 10:41 PM	#11
ae racer Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 688	I agree that with a new paint job im always more careful. Same with a hard body b/c they arent as durable as lexan bodies. But after the first scratch in my clod, i was WOT when i needed to get over a rock or when im on flat b/c going scale speeds between obstacles takes too long. Now i am going to be building some trucks that will be light duty trail rigs that i will keep the possibities of close calls to a minimum.

09-26-2010, 06:14 PM	#12
blukon98 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tupelo Posts: 353	I like to beat on my 1:1 so I do the same with my scaler, but there are times when slow control is key, a lot of it comes from knowing your rig and what looks more scale at what speed

09-26-2010, 06:40 PM	#14
adamargue RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tulsa Posts: 1,667	When I drive mine I run it pretty slow but I like to see just how far it will go and I like to take sketchy lines and just see if my rubber will stay planted. My trucks a a lot if scratches but that comes with the territory. I don't see how u could build a crawler or trail truck and not scratch it.

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09-26-2010, 08:45 PM	#18
BLOODBANE Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canon City Posts: 466	Sometimes I will "hammer it" and hope for the best in my 1.1(c'mon I have a 347 stroker in a short wheel base Ranger), but most of it is slow crawling. I haven't broke any axle shafts yet, but its only a matter of time. With my scaler there is a lot more speed, for the reason that its a lot easier to get out of a bad situation(breakage). Just nature of the beast we call crawling. If it was as hard to get your scaler out, you would be a lot more careful.

09-26-2010, 09:22 PM	#19
gottorque RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontherocks Posts: 1,980	being a relative newb to the scaler class (just got an scx), i have found that the donor electronics from my comp truck which is a 50 turn on 2s make the speed pretty beliveable. It not fast but you have enough wheel speed to add that coolness factor when dinking around in the playground sand pit and you see the truck flexing as it goes over the "dunes" rather than skim over it and commonly drive it from eye level when possible. Also i have to take in to consideration the fact the 1:1 im basing my build off of has a top speed of around 50 I do admit to driving it on my comp course

09-26-2010, 09:31 PM	#20
arthurc10 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rio Rancho Posts: 127	Its either/ or for me. Sometimes I will take it slow, 50% throttle, etc. Technical lines, battery conservation, steep terrain all call for less throttle. Flats, creeks, scale "rivers," jumps, and things like that call for 100%. Towing trailers and pulling my buddies call for 100% and pulling them over the biggest rocks I can find. lol

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