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01-21-2018, 11:55 PM | #1 |
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| Foremost Delta - Oil Field Truck
Hi there, my name is Ralf, a 57 year old. In 2015 I was bored about build rigs out of the Box. But, how to build a very own rig? Wood? Not my material. Plastics? I tried it, but it was not very satisfying. Metal? YES! As a Programmer without any experiences with this material, I work with it , raise my skills and my equipment for sheet-metal like a bender or a rolling-machine etc. In the beginning I build some small and simple parts for a SCX10 I , some cages to practise hard-soldering and so on. To work with Metal makes me happy, so it was consequent that I followed my Idea to try a scratch build in Metal. But what kind of Car was perfect for my Skills at that time? After some hours of searching the WWW i've found it: The Foremost Delta Oil Field Truck. Basic Tech Specs: Width 3,30 m (10,8ft Height 3,2 m (10,5ft) Length (naked frame) 9,15 m (30ft) Tire-Height 1,7m (5,6ft) Tire-Width 1m (3,3ft) Why this unusual vehicle? This ugly truck has a nice rectangular Body, easy? to build with sheet-metal. The articulated steering promised new skills to me. The huge dimensions of the original fits my intention to work not with small parts wich I can't handle without tweezers. While browsing for some tech specs of the Truck I'm hooked on the Idea to build a full functional Gin Pole. And not as show. It should be able to lift easy the usual Scale rigs up to a 8x8-Truck. A sneak preview from a early moment of the building Anyone interested to read more of this build? P.S.: If I use weird or simply wrong english terms, feel free to correct me. I'll try to get better. Last edited by rabe62; 01-22-2018 at 07:24 AM. |
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01-22-2018, 12:49 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Deep South
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| Foremost Delta - Oil Field Truck
Why hellsyeah. I have nearly 18 years in the oil fields and have no idea what that truck is for. LOL. But I never worked on land though. Always on the water. But even still, I can’t fathom what it is for. With a gun pole I can see it being “jack of all trades” type rig.
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01-22-2018, 08:15 AM | #3 |
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| Re: Foremost Delta - Oil Field Truck
Cool truck! Metal is good. This should be awesome!
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01-22-2018, 08:50 AM | #4 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Moncton
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subscribed!
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01-22-2018, 10:46 AM | #5 |
Newbie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Germany
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Hi, @brakeweight: an example for a gin pole truck: https://youtu.be/DyHXQPco3dQ All starts with the first Version of the Axles. I planned it in the first thoughts as a 4x4 with 2 old xr10 moa-axles. Wheels are nearly scale 3.8 tires from a 1:8 truck like traxxas summit. To compare the size nearby a scx10I with 1.9 Rok-lox mounted. The axles are to narrow but when the Wheels mounted reverse, they fits perfect. So the first selfmade things of the truck were wheel-adapters During this Project, many things are broken or do not working but these Wheels are surprisingly robust. On the Beginning I worked only with a little Proxxon bfw40 mill motor. The look an feel from the Parts are not fresh out of a fabric. And so I decided very early, that I don't build it as a factory-new car, but rather in a "used, but tender refurbished"-look. |
01-23-2018, 12:42 AM | #6 |
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| Re: Foremost Delta - Oil Field Truck
The Foremosts suspension is very easy. Frontaxle with leafsprings, Backaxle none So the next steps were the flanges for the leafsprings , the leafsprings and the first part of the frame Today for the flanges I would use my Mill for the grooves but at that time I only have an Mini Proxxon Buzz Saw to avoid heavy filing. So I marked and bore the holes on a aluminium bar 25x10 mm (~ 1" x 3/8") and use the buzz saw mounted The Leaf-Springs are made of Feeler gauge tape (~1/2" x 20/1000") In this first stage I build only one spring with the eyes. With an ongoing project and weight there will be successive more springs. Bore the center hole Heating and building the eyes Setup in a helping mount More Heating till the spring is visibly relaxing. Ready to mount The first parts of the Steelframe with spacers Mounted The parts of the fixing bars Assembled Mounted |
01-23-2018, 11:50 PM | #7 |
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Hi there, I hope you enjoy my pic-flow? Today, it started with mystic signs some cuts more cuts a brass-gib the joint for the articulated steering is ready some aluminium as flange flanges for the flange mounted This joint looks simple and almost to small but works well at all times. Only some minor changes on the flanges are happen to raise the possible steering angle. After this I can mount the Axles and have a first look to the complete frame-length. Obviously my workingplace was too small and so an old ikea rollable commode taking place in the basement. Going on with the steering. The next pics shows the first, ofcourse dewy-eyed, version to move the steering. A 38 kg ( 83 lbs) standrad-servo. In the cellar with clean desk and no weight on it, it works well. But later you will see several stages of steering-evolution till the end another flange the steering bolt tomorrow will bring the first sheet metal-origami session. stay tuned |
01-24-2018, 07:29 AM | #8 |
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Hi, where do I get the Infos and Plans for the Model? Plans none. A small bunch of Facts from the Foremost-Brochures. But the most of Information were from these Pics: https://hiveminer.com/Tags/delta,foremost Fortunately they was almost exact from the side and so I'm able to measure the sizes with Photoshop. The base-size was the diameter of the tires. Brochure -> Brand and Type of Tire -> Tire - Homepage -> Size. The rest is measure, measure,maesure..... And then started the sheet-metal-origami and the first things on the Way to build a scale Foremost Delta. sheet-metal is blank steel 0,5mm (~ 0,19") First of all: The cover to hide the non-scale-parts of the hinge followed by the gasoline-tanks |
01-24-2018, 07:44 AM | #9 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Castle Rock, WA
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Such a great build! Don't where to begin!
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01-24-2018, 08:15 AM | #10 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Douglassville, PA
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Excellent fab work good sir. Keep the pics coming!
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01-24-2018, 11:30 AM | #11 |
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Holy awesomeness!!!
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01-24-2018, 11:23 PM | #12 |
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Blank Steel is too quick rusty to leave him blank. Therefore it will usually painted with primer, base coat and lacquer. Three steps with many little things? Hhhmmm... googeling, thinking, googeling , thinking. Yipieeee. I've found the Solution! A viscous, gap-filling lacquer inclusive base coat. Applicable with a Brush. (I don't have the possibility to spray) Usually one layer will be enough. Only a small deficit: I tooks minimum of 2 days to drying. Really bound not unitl a Week. (A great challenge to me patience ) A first try in "Baumaschinen Gelb" (construction machine yellow). I love it. After a week the strength-test. Only with a screwdriver I'm able to build a deep scratch. Because of his thickness no cracking at little pickels but smooth overlapping. You can see an Example at the bottom of the Picture. After drying it get a slight glossy visual appearance. With a little washing or real dirt a great behave to simply get the used-look. |
01-25-2018, 04:40 AM | #13 |
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The Frame raised to final height. The building of the Cabin begins. The Back comes later. With the back, the Seat etc. will be push together like a drawer into the Cabin. Sounds elegant but afterwards considered was this a bit non-optimal. Many of the parts are build like: Look - Think - Measure - Build. But the Cabin is complex with his sloped areas. so I made a plan Bottom Flat sheetmetal is too flexibel so it get some stiffening Brass Handrail Mounted on side plates First look for proportional correction The top View from top with the two plattform- holders The Plattform begins The designated frontwinch ( Because she's visible the only bought one. The other winches were selfmade.) Like the original were the ladder mounted at the back from the side plate. The fixed part of the ladder The variable part. Rubber form a old inner tube ready |
01-25-2018, 06:34 PM | #14 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Placer County
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| Re: Foremost Delta - Oil Field Truck
Fantastic looking rig! Just an observation, but I'd suggest you consider changing your leaf spring mounts/hangers to a double-shear design by passing through both walls of the chassis. Not sure why you chose to install that way (don't have long enough bolts?) but on a heavy rig like this it would be a shame to see it bend those single shear mounts on it's maiden voyage. Good luck! |
01-25-2018, 11:13 PM | #15 |
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Thank you. The original Truck mounted the spring under the frame. With the shown axle this ist not possible without a unnecessary effort to get a good connection to the axle. So i took it beside the frame. In the shown stage of the rig your suggestion where right, but later on, there will be no space for traverses. And this solution is very useful. Meanwhile several things and parts on the Rig are broken or redesigned, the leafsprings are still the same. |
01-25-2018, 11:50 PM | #16 |
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Hi, the second plattform and the frontshield are bended. On the pics you will often see a bottle alcoholfree beer. The size of such a bottle is well known in germany and serve as a optical scale. the lamps are growing the combined skid-ramp and winch-holder Under the ramp the huge towing-eye-construction In between I get a visit form a scratch-build fully hand-made mog with portal-axles. A great peace of craftsmanship. The Body is a standard Tamiya-Mog. With the raise of weight, the number of leafs raises too. At least yellow to the plattform The thick painting and the uneven sheet-metal creates a nice subtle used look. That's exactly the look I go for. |
01-26-2018, 04:26 AM | #17 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Austin
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(OK, zuerst auf Deutsch...) Ausgezeichnet! Seht sehr gut aus... (und weider zuruck auf Englisch...) Awesome, it's coming along very nicely! |
01-26-2018, 11:56 AM | #18 |
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Danke schön! / Thank you! |
01-26-2018, 12:58 PM | #19 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Placer County
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| Re: Foremost Delta - Oil Field Truck I see no issue with mounting outside the frame positioning the leafs where they need to be -- the issue is that your bolt only passes through the outer wall of your chassis, not both walls.
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01-26-2018, 03:46 PM | #20 |
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In the next period I'm too lazy to make many pics. Ergo you will see only big steps in this post. after this point you'll see new parts the motor housing at this moment designated home of the electronics and underneath the batteries the mudguard frontview the forepart from rear a little? cable spaghetti ready for the first ride Works! At this moment I was happy and the project will be continuing..... Have a good weekend! |
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