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durok 02-21-2019 11:56 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Funny, they stuck a Dynamite-branded motor and Spectrum-branded radio in the release of this thing. Horizon has begun changing things up a bit...

jokersinsanity 02-21-2019 12:30 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
http://www.axialracing.com/products/axi90069

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Ditchrat 02-21-2019 12:56 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by durok (Post 5912160)
Funny, they stuck a Dynamite-branded motor and Spectrum-branded radio in the release of this thing. Horizon has begun changing things up a bit...


Quote:

SPEKTRUM ESC/RECEIVER COMBO
The Spektrum ESC/receiver is an all in one unit featuring an EC3 battery connector, a convenient on–off switch and it’s water resistant for peace of mind when water splashes on your electronics.
WARNING: This product is only compatible with NiMH batteries. Do not use a LiPo battery or fire causing serious injury or damage to property may occur.

That can't be right in 2019.........


Are they daft.

Shinchu 02-21-2019 01:12 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
yeah even my barrage can run a 2S lipo.

daft indeed.

rkj__ 02-21-2019 02:49 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
I'd say the solid rear axle is a definite strike against this product. You don't have to be a scale freak to notice, hey, that's not like my 1:1 Can-Am.

If it's cheap enough, some people will buy it, but I can't see it being a home-run.

Jim85IROC 02-21-2019 06:31 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rkj__ (Post 5912210)
I'd say the solid rear axle is a definite strike against this product. You don't have to be a scale freak to notice, hey, that's not like my 1:1 Can-Am.

If it's cheap enough, some people will buy it, but I can't see it being a home-run.

Half of the bodies that we put on our crawlers don't have a solid front axle on the 1:1 versions, and we all accept it for what it is, but suddenly a solid axle instead of an IRS is a deal breaker?

Brake Weight 02-21-2019 08:16 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim85IROC (Post 5912258)
Half of the bodies that we put on our crawlers don't have a solid front axle on the 1:1 versions, and we all accept it for what it is, but suddenly a solid axle instead of an IRS is a deal breaker?



Yes. Nobody does a SAS to a side by side. They most definitely do them to trucks.

Ditchrat 02-22-2019 04:43 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5912275)
Yes. Nobody does a SAS to a side by side. They most definitely do them to trucks.


Absolutely dead on. If you're going to make a 1:1 crawler out of your truck, a solid axle swap is one of the first things you have to do. People even body swap things like Corvette bodies on to 4x4 chassis.

That make a lot of the liberties builders take believable. Solid axle on that utv is a stretch.

Jim85IROC 02-22-2019 07:15 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
You guys are taking your scale realism a little too seriously.;-) for all the flaws that this vehicle has, I don't see the solid axle as one of the biggest.

chevy4life 02-22-2019 07:53 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
It's A frigin toy guys. In a perfect world every r/c would be an exact replica but this however is just like axial said. simply a scale accessory that just happens to be drive able.

tuanies 02-22-2019 08:12 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
A lot of people use kei mini trucks as a side by side and they are rear axle and IFS. Now someone just needs to make a body for one...

Ditchrat 02-22-2019 08:24 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy4life (Post 5912376)
It's A frigin toy guys. In a perfect world every r/c would be an exact replica but this however is just like axial said. simply a scale accessory that just happens to be drive able.




You get to like what you like and others get to like what they like. If people don't like it enough to purchase it then to fails.


If I was to buy it for a scale accessory at that price point it is going to be a proper scale accessory. I am not saying that it has to be that way or its wrong. However there are many people that feel the same way, if there wasn't then comp crawlers would be much more popular then they are currently.


I don't think anybody who would buy this as a toy would not buy it with an independent rear, but on the flip side I do think as a scale accessory people would not buy it because of the independent rear. It seems as a marketing tactic you would want to capture as much of the market as possible.


And let be honest who is going to spend the most money here? A scale nerd looking for something or the average scaler?


Really none of us know WTF we are talking about, we are all just guessing and offering opinions. Eventually the market will show us what the demand is, either this will be an addition to the axial line up, or it will be discontinued after they sell off the initial batch. In a year or two if it gets discontinued I guess we can revisit this post and see who was correct. Until then we have soemthing to talk about. Im sure in a week someone will post a thread begging for a UTV only section.

Any chance a mod would merge the two UTV threads?

svt923 02-22-2019 08:50 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
I can't believe anyone would buy a realistic looking truck with the wrong type of suspension!

Sincerely,

People who complained there should have been a solid axle on the Slash before Traxxas went and sold millions of them

odomandr 02-22-2019 09:54 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
I wish everyone was more open minded to the idea of having fun.....

JDM74 02-22-2019 10:30 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim85IROC (Post 5912258)
Half of the bodies that we put on our crawlers don't have a solid front axle on the 1:1 versions, and we all accept it for what it is, but suddenly a solid axle instead of an IRS is a deal breaker?

Speak for yourself. Every one of my RC crawlers came with a solid front axle in its 1:1 counterpart. I'm a scale nerd. Every sticker on my bomber or UDR is a legit sponsor of the 1:1. I went so far as to research the 1:1's to see what sponsors they run. I even researched SSD's rock racer wheels to see which 1:1's they are a copy of so I could put the appropriate sponsor sticker on my bomber.

So my point, yeah, if I even liked side by sides, the solid axle rear is a deal breaker. I'm sure there are others like me.

Ditchrat 02-22-2019 10:36 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by odomandr (Post 5912420)
I wish everyone was more open minded to the idea of having fun.....




You understand that building, modding and maintaining is the fun part of this hobby for some people. Actually running them is just something else we do.

goobs 02-22-2019 10:40 AM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
anybody else notice the upper rear is a wishbone...its not individual links, that dont flex.

Col_Sanders 02-22-2019 05:46 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
I'll get one. I need something to chase the kids around with and I have a Mamba Micro X esc sitting here that needs a good home.

Brake Weight 02-22-2019 07:32 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
I’ve got a 1st release and it was a POS back then. I’d imagine nothing has changed. All electronics should get ripped out before a battery is ever plugged in. Motor and/or pinion options are slim to none. Meshing the pinion-spur is a crap shoot at best. Hardware is junk at best. Everything is plastic...even the axle shafts.

There’s several threads in the Yeti sub forum for the Jr. Have a look see.

Col_Sanders 02-22-2019 08:43 PM

Re: New Axial UTV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5912538)
I’ve got a 1st release and it was a POS back then. I’d imagine nothing has changed. All electronics should get ripped out before a battery is ever plugged in. Motor and/or pinion options are slim to none. Meshing the pinion-spur is a crap shoot at best. Hardware is junk at best. Everything is plastic...even the axle shafts.

There’s several threads in the Yeti sub forum for the Jr. Have a look see.

You'd imagine wrong...Axle shafts and the gears/lockers are aluminum and it has Spektrum electronics now. It SHOULD be a good bit more durable than the first generation version.

I get a little bit of hope out of this release because it shows that Horizon can address weak points and make worthwhile changes to a platform. I hope it takes off and opens the door for a good 1/18 scaler.


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