my 4ws tuber mrc build *time lapse video !

[NeXt559]

thought id just post my current mini crawler build.

before you even point out the obvious, yes i know 4ws is not legal in competion. this build is purely for fun, and to see how far i can take this mini. i have my 2.2 to comp w/ and a super class rig im begining to save up for.

list of mods and upgrades:

dmg snipe v1 tube chassis
losi aluminum shocks
tcs internal springs
losi cf servo/battery plate X2
losi lipo battery
motoworx billet aluminum ufo wheels w/ rings (via JFab)
losi mini slider motor
losi front rear and center metal diff lockers
4ws mod
tekin fxr
dynamite aluminum servo arms
custom made heavy duty steering links
rpm universal servo mounts
deans connectors for all electrical connections
rocksmith gear jelly
losi rock bashers

Link to time lapse build video ------->>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO62-epYjso

now for more pics







^^ can this steering link geometry get any better? i vote that it cannot!



more upgrades soon
went to my lhs today and picked up 2 hs-5245 mini servos, and a set of g8 flat irons. i'm also begining talk to some builders about a campbell style buggy

[crawlinlosi]

IF you get a Campbell Chassis, I got dibbs on your old one!

[Drvnbeing]

Nice vid/build!!!

P.S. Aesop is the sh!t

[01tj]

i used to run 4ws on mine but took it off, it was fun for a while but i have alot more fun with front steer. cool build tho

[JFAB]

I have my personal campbell mrc chassis if your interested. VERY lightly used.

Let me know!

[NeXt559]

Originally Posted by crawlinlosi

IF you get a Campbell Chassis, I got dibbs on your old one!

i'll keep ur user name in mind when the new tuber is delivered

Originally Posted by Drvnbeing

Nice vid/build!!!

P.S. Aesop is the sh!t

thanks, and you wont get any arguments there. i actually met aesop when i went to NY last year, he was helping w/ pomoting a show but didnt persform himself. a really intelligent and genuine guy imo

Originally Posted by 01tj

i used to run 4ws on mine but took it off, it was fun for a while but i have alot more fun with front steer. cool build tho

what ?! more fun than doing 360's after a particularly rediculus climb?! lol
the mini slider really makes this thing haul
btw ne one know if the stump puller motor is stronger than the losi mini slider?

Originally Posted by JFAB

I have my personal campbell mrc chassis if your interested. VERY lightly used.

Let me know!

dont worry i still have you in mind for the e revo project
thanks for helpin out w/ the wheels btw

[dickwart]

Originally Posted by NeXt559

went to my lhs today and picked up 2 hs-5245 mini servos

Mine burnt up in 5 mins. Both servos w/ a CCbec. let me know if yours work.

[NeXt559]

Originally Posted by dickwart

Mine burnt up in 5 mins. Both servos w/ a CCbec. let me know if yours work.

are you sure you werent over throwing them?
a couple of people have had issues which were quickly fixed by adjusting the steering rate

[wildthing]

which one burned up? - the hs-5245?!? I am about to buy one of those to replace my stock losi servo...

[NeXt559]

Originally Posted by wildthing

which one burned up? - the hs-5245?!? I am about to buy one of those to replace my stock losi servo...

the main reason they have been burning up is because they have been being over thrown!
when setting up your steering rate make sure to check it both left and right.
adjust the steer rate to whichever side has the least throw.
adjust the steer rate only as far as the servo will go w/o buzzing. then pull back again just a tad.

this is steering servo 101 guys

before i upgraded to the hs5245's i was using the stock losi mini servos. and ive had my mrc since it's release. the only reason ive had to ugrade was because of how much heavier the rig is compared to its stock form. and a hard turn w/ all that extra weight has caused gear stripping in my front servo. to be honest the rear stock servo is still in perfect shape

also ive been getting numerous pm's about what parts will be needed for the 4ws mod. note that all parts i list are the stock losi parts and can be updraded to your choosing

Axle Shafts: LOSB1406

Axles: LOSB1407

Front Spindles & Carriers with Hardware: LOSB1409

Steering Links, Long & Shord: LOSB1410

Complete Screw Kit: LOSB1419
*not really a "must have" you are only going to need the one long screw for that connects the knuckle, drang link and tie rod. but it is good to have in tool box in case you loose any tiny screws.

Servo Plates & Mounts: LOSB1421

Servo Saver & Arm Set: LOSB1422
*you'll mainly need this if are using the stock losi mini servo.

MSX12 Digital Mini Servo: LOSB0822
*other mini servos that are drop in replacements would be the Hitec HS-225MG; HS-225BB; HS-5245MG (if they are any i missed please pm me and i will edit if needed)

as for wiring you either need an extra 3rd channel on your radio w/ at least 3 positions or a wire harness w/ a reversing module

[dickwart]

How are u suppose to adjust the servo? Had it set to turn till each knuckle was just a c-hair away from each steering stop. No dice. Put a 645 on and no probs... Plus even after you Buy the full size servo mount they are still half as much as the 5245's. Make yer own mount and save even more. More torque and no issues.

[amorton94]

Originally Posted by dickwart

How are u suppose to adjust the servo? Had it set to turn till each knuckle was just a c-hair away from each steering stop. No dice. Put a 645 on and no probs... Plus even after you Buy the full size servo mount they are still half as much as the 5245's. Make yer own mount and save even more. More torque and no issues.

What? That made no sense to me. But thanks for listing the parts and part numbers NeXt550, that will be of use to me in the future.

[NeXt559]

Originally Posted by dickwart

How are u suppose to adjust the servo? Had it set to turn till each knuckle was just a c-hair away from each steering stop. No dice. Put a 645 on and no probs... Plus even after you Buy the full size servo mount they are still half as much as the 5245's. Make yer own mount and save even more. More torque and no issues.

im not doubting that the 645 is a stronger servo and in turn have less of a tendancy to get fried

dont know what radio you're using but imo the stock radio doesnt have the adjustability required to use your servo at its optimum level
(btw im using a dx3r)
example:
my subtrim is set to "L3"
left steer rate is set at 93%
right steer rate is set at 81%
even w/ the different steer rates i get the equal amount of turn left or right.

also i stuck w/ the mini size servos for 2 reasons
1- imo the standard size is looks way to big on the mrc axles
2- i havent needed all that extra torque...... yet

i say "yet" because the new tube chassis is being designed and fab'd by gadge as i type

ive always admired this rig built by a local 1:1 shop




after sending gadge some reference pics he sent my a quick doodle a very short few hours later

here's a quick lil teaser for the build



as you might notice it's noticable larger that orignal. we're shooting for maybe 1/14- 1/12 scale

i asked him to make the roof lne a tad lower that the top of the head rest. i just thought it would help bring the gc down a lil and i also thought it would give the overall rig a stout, and more agressive look

[gadge]

Well after searching thru alot of pictures, think I got a plan....and then some
" The NeXt Trail Gear MiNi "
and yes we are building a 1/12 scale rig with the changes as requested by Next and a few to make things fit n clear, ...gotta nip/tuck panhard mounts a bit
And to top off the doodle decided to build one for myself, or someone..??
Well call it a styling exercise, ...practice or ????

"Now heres where (love this part) I make Next say "awesome" again......

###keep in mind this is going to be a bit larger to fit AX-10 but a shape of things to come, I'll do a 2.2 or AX thread when I have time

The chassis for NeXt will be 75% of this size for 9.5" wheelbase

Sorry for the tease NeXt but .........got it in my head


THE SHAPE

THE TUBES



AND DONT FORGET DETAILS

[gadge]

runnin to the LHS to pick up chassis plates for template
now I can start

[amorton94]

Will I/the rest of us be able to get this tube chassis? I imagine so, but I just want to be sure. It looks awesome, and it's just a 'doodle'.

[gadge]

Yep and all you gotta do is ask
...."I knew someone woulde use awesome......
able to fit mini...1/12th scale
AX-10 or any rc4wd in 1/10th scale
and w/k in just under 1/8

[NeXt559]

aww .... amorton94 beat me to it

but im gonna say it neways

looking awsome gadge my paypal tab is ready and waiting for you to tell me when to pony up the funds

[gadge]

got the stock chassis plates to use for template seeing that I'm just stretching the chassis 1" so stock links will work..just have to extend d/s's
well heres the start of the MiNi chassis

for the small scale 1/8 round stock...with p-coat = 1 5/8" to scale
well gotta run n fire up the torch.......