Losi Xcelorin Sensored ESC/Motor Combo for the MRC!

[JatoTheRipper]

Losi finally released a brushless system for the MRC and it's sensored! It will be interesting to see how they compare to the competition and to brushed motors.

Information from Losi.com

Features
Designed specifically for Sensored Brushless operation
Easy single-step setup
Features a pre-wired Losi Mini power connector
Throttle Limiting capability (Forward/Reverse)
Programmable via Quick Programming Card or PC software included
25A continuous current with 35A peak
Two-color LED to indicate functions
Adjustable low voltage cutoff to protect your investment
Optimized for spread spectrum or legacy radio systems
No-cogging sensor design
Compatible with most leading sensored electronic speed controls
18.5T Motor features a long-life neodymium sintered rotor for superior torque and stronger braking
Precision ball bearings for improved performance
Pre-wired with gold-plated bullet connectors
Minimal motor maintenance required

Technical Notes

ESC Specifications:
Type: Sensored Brushless Only
Forward: Yes
Reverse: Yes
Brake: Yes
Continuous Maximum Current: 25A
Input Voltage: 7.2-9.6V (NiMH 6- to 8-cells); LiPo 2-3S (7.4-11.1V)
Input Connector Types: Losi Mini style
Motor Limit: Most 380 or smaller sized sensored motors of 4.5T or higher
Momentary Peak Current: 35A
Dimensions (WxLxH): 1.0 x 1.7 x 0.6 in (26.1 x 44.5 x 16.5mm)
Weight: 1.1 oz (33 g)
BEC Voltage: 5.0V, 2A
PWM Frequency: Spread spectrum or legacy systems
Auto Cutoff: Programmable

Motor Specifications:
Type: Sensored Brushless
Size: 280
Bearings or Bushings: Precision Ball Bearings
Weight: 2.2 oz (63g)
Overall Diameter: 0.89 inches (22.5mm)
Shaft Diameter: 0.78 inches (2.00mm) with flat
Shaft Length: 0.40 inches (10.5mm)
Overall Length: 1.75 inches (44.5mm)
Rotor: Sintered neodymium
Connector: 3.5mm gold bullet

More info here:
http://www.rccaraction.com/ME2/dirmo...53AE15F8C23EF3
http://losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSB9567

They are releasing some aluminum parts for the Micro Rock Crawler as well.

[Sneed]

I've been eyeing this all morning. Was going to start a thread but wanted to be one of the first to have. Haha. Look as if you can purchase the esc and motor seperate. Have to wait a while till they release the combo though

[RacerScott]

Looks like I bought a MRC at the right time!!! Cool!

[mrdrinksalil]

I'd like to see someone who's allready got the Mongoose system get it and try it and give some feedback.

[SLODRIVE]

Originally Posted by mrdrinksalil

I'd like to see someone who's allready got the Mongoose system get it and try it and give some feedback.

Why would someone who already has a Mongoose system want to buy this?
(Besides, the Losi system costs WAY more...Mongoose is under $100 )

[GrasshopperMRC]

I wonder how this will compare to the mongoose? Was looking at the mongoose but now I dunno what to do?

[soundcolor]

That stuff is for the micro, well the alum goodies are anyway

[mrdrinksalil]

Originally Posted by SLODRIVE

Why would someone who already has a Mongoose system want to buy this?
(Besides, the Losi system costs WAY more...Mongoose is under $100 )

Because you have a dialed in 1.9 running the best brushless system (mongoose) and you want to see if the losi is better. When you have $700-$1000 in a mini what's another $150 to try then new brushless system. If you dont like it im sure it would sell in 5 min on this board for $125.

[SLODRIVE]

Originally Posted by mrdrinksalil

Because you have a dialed in 1.9 running the best brushless system (mongoose) and you want to see if the losi is better. When you have $700-$1000 in a mini what's another $150 to try then new brushless system. If you dont like it im sure it would sell in 5 min on this board for $125.

Sorry...but IMO, buying a second brushless system for the same car is a silly waste of money, especially if you think a Horizon Hobby system is going to be any better than a Novak one. If you're that guy with a "dialed in 1.9", be my guest and let the rest of us know!

EDIT:By the way, I have nothing against the Losi system....it's just that if you're already brushless, this would be the one part you wouldn't need.

[soundcolor]

It may well be better, who knows.
By your reasoning, there really is no nees to change anything but the tires and lockers on the mrc, because the rest of it works fine.

To me, brushless is cool, but kinda a waste all the way around. Less torque, longer run times. Not really bthe trade off I'm looking for in a crawler. Hell, with a slider on the stock esc and pinion with the stock batts, I was still seeing north of 35 minutes of actual crawl time. Yeah, I wanted more, but didn't need more.

[Harley]

Originally Posted by soundcolor

It may well be better, who knows.
By your reasoning, there really is no nees to change anything but the tires and lockers on the mrc, because the rest of it works fine.

To me, brushless is cool, but kinda a waste all the way around. Less torque, longer run times. Not really bthe trade off I'm looking for in a crawler. Hell, with a slider on the stock esc and pinion with the stock batts, I was still seeing north of 35 minutes of actual crawl time. Yeah, I wanted more, but didn't need more.

Have you crawled with the Novak sensored brushless system? More torque and all around power than a slider motor. The slider motor was great at first but doesn't quite stand up to the Mongoose.

[Sneed]

I'm probably going to throw down on this one too.... since I've got to get a new Xcelorin Esc for the LCC anyway. Might as well have both rigs representing Team Losi all the way around If somebody wants a couple fxr's let me know. I'm probably going to sell a few things to make up

[SLODRIVE]

Originally Posted by soundcolor

It may well be better, who knows.
By your reasoning, there really is no nees to change anything but the tires and lockers on the mrc, because the rest of it works fine.

LOL, did you even read my post? I simply stated that there's no need to buy the Xcelorin system if you already have a Mongoose system. In no way did I state, or even imply, that there's no need for any other upgrades; in fact, you're the one saying that brushless systems are a waste (which I find even funnier). Do you buy every competing brand's version of every upgrade part for your crawler?

[fordwheeler]

still I'm curious to see how it compares to the mongoose, i believe it will be hard to beat the ''goose''

[mrdrinksalil]

Originally Posted by fordwheeler

still I'm curious to see how it compares to the mongoose, i believe it will be hard to beat the ''goose''

This proves I'm not crazy... lol.

[Del Monte]

I've got this system in my new mini, and it feels great. I haven't had a mongoose for a while, but the Losi system feels like it has considerably more torque. I can break gears at will if I try to force the rig into a spot it shouldn't be in I'm currently running 14/58 gearing, and I will probably jump up a few more teeth on the pinion for my comp this Saturday.

[Sneed]

Hell's Yeah. Now get that damn build thread up on that little guy

[mrdrinksalil]

break gears at will on 2c or 3c?

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by soundcolor

That stuff is for the micro, well the alum goodies are anyway

Yep, and I'm pretty sure I actually mentioned that in my post if you would have read it!

Originally Posted by SLODRIVE

Why would someone who already has a Mongoose system want to buy this?
(Besides, the Losi system costs WAY more...Mongoose is under $100 )

That's the MSRP. I'm sure we'll find it cheaper online. And lots of people have multiple MRCs so they might want to try this on their second MRC. And some people buy extra parts just to experiment and they sell off the stuff they don't use.

[Nabil]

Map pricing is $159. im breaking gears, cvd's, and stampede shafts at will with a 16 tooth pinion and a 2s lipo. ive had the mongoose before and i just didnt like it