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intheworks · 02-06-2008, 03:37 AM

if you guys had to choose between having either rear steer or front dig capabilities what would you choose and why. and how reliable is the rear driveline disconnect/front dig setup.

im asking this because I ordered a modified 3ch. TQ3 radio for cheap so i dont really want to order another radio.

Mnster · 02-06-2008, 03:55 AM

Dig, because I can use it in competition unlike rear steer.

Dig has more benifits then just dragging the rear around turns. Once you have it you will find these uses, maybe.

Digs are reliable if made and maintained correctly.

If I drive for fun I might as well drive something worthy like a scale truck.

intheworks · 02-06-2008, 04:16 AM

well i probably wont ever compete with this thing.
i know that both rear steer and front digs can get you into and out of some hairy situations.

Reflection · 02-06-2008, 04:21 AM

Rear steer sucks.

intheworks · 02-06-2008, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorman57

Rear steer sucks.

cant you add a little bit of some tech talk as to why you think rear steer sucks.

TJAugie · 02-06-2008, 05:43 AM

Dig, you never know IF you may compete, but you may. If you will NEVER and you know this, rear steer. Think about this though, with a dig set up that will let you lock, unlock, and let the rear move freely/disengaged, you will ultimately have more control over what the rear end does on climbs and descents. Again, personally I would go dig. I am going to once I can scare up some money or get a job.......mortgage comes first. I really need to win the lottery or something.

TJAugie · 02-06-2008, 05:45 AM

PS - you should add a third selection in the poll.
Try both and see what I like more.
It is just a matter of a servo and links for the rear steer, I think I could go pirate that stuff off some of my other RC's if I wanted to.....again, just food for thought.

intheworks · 02-06-2008, 05:58 AM

great im getting some responses.

keep it coming.

Stormin2u · 02-06-2008, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnster

Dig, because I can use it in competition unlike rear steer.

Dig has more benifits then just dragging the rear around turns. Once you have it you will find these uses, maybe.

Digs are reliable if made and maintained correctly.

If I drive for fun I might as well drive something worthy like a scale truck.

Mnster is spot on this question IMO X2

mysharona · 02-06-2008, 11:03 AM

sweet vid of dig in action. need I say more?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALA__XEVYzw

miller · 02-06-2008, 11:18 AM

And another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLLhLAIzODg

and another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzOv5FwMoKc&NR=1

I haven't run rear steer yet.... very soon but I love dig I just don't like how bulky it is. My set up worked very well and was reliable but then I made my tuber and didn't make anything to be able to mount the extra servo to. The big advantage is being able to steer your truck on climbs with rear steer. I'll be running rear steer to see how I like it. I've just been waiting for the HD R2 with disco to come out.

But like others said..rear steer is super quick to set up...do that, see how you like it and while you have a runner start building your dig...when it's done, run that and make your pick.

SaVaGe MaN SS · 02-06-2008, 01:11 PM

never liked rear steer never helped much. i went with a dig on my comp rig.

|maniac| · 02-06-2008, 01:25 PM

Technically, can't you have both?

The 3rd channel on the TQ3 for dig, and a y harness for rear stear. You'd have to reverse the leads on the rear servo to reverse it without reversing the front too (some servos don't work when you do this, or so I've found).

If I had to choose, I'd go with dig, especially on a 2.2

Greatscott · 02-06-2008, 10:22 PM

I have rear steer in my AX10, I am building a dig system for comps. I love the rear steer, it cuts the turn radius by at least half (more I think, haven't measured it). But, why is rear steer not allowed in comps?

intheworks · 02-06-2008, 10:29 PM

will using 2 stock axial drive shafts be strong enough? to make the one.

iceman320 · 02-06-2008, 10:31 PM

rear steering is allowed in comps but only on the super class i think. I don;t know why it's not allowed on teh 2.2 class?

pncstod · 02-07-2008, 04:29 PM

I voted for the dig setup, just in case you want to compete--as someone else said, you never know if you may want to someday. I have never competed but would never set up my truck with something that couldnt be used in competition....just my 2 cents....

wurster · 03-13-2008, 09:40 PM

I have used both.In 1/10 And 1/1 Dig is the only way to go.You can lock lock up the real and jost slide around the obstical.No need to back up.Rc4whd has a new and cheep one on the way.Good luck.

CD13 · 03-13-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnster

Dig, because I can use it in competition unlike rear steer.

Dig has more benifits then just dragging the rear around turns. Once you have it you will find these uses, maybe.

Digs are reliable if made and maintained correctly.

If I drive for fun I might as well drive something worthy like a scale truck.

X2,Very useful for lot of things and if you do go to a comp you'll be able to use it

jrbraden · 03-13-2008, 11:03 PM

when making a dig setup, would you want to make it to where your rear axle locks or freewheels?

View Poll Results: which one: rear steer or front dig
set up the ax10 with rear steer	10	13.70%
set up the ax10 with front dig capablity	63	86.30%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

02-06-2008, 03:37 AM	#1
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	rear steer OR front digs if you guys had to choose between having either rear steer or front dig capabilities what would you choose and why. and how reliable is the rear driveline disconnect/front dig setup. im asking this because I ordered a modified 3ch. TQ3 radio for cheap so i dont really want to order another radio. Last edited by intheworks; 02-06-2008 at 03:40 AM.

02-06-2008, 10:29 PM	#15
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	drive shaft will using 2 stock axial drive shafts be strong enough? to make the one.

03-13-2008, 09:40 PM	#18
wurster Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: sweethome Posts: 452	Dig I have used both.In 1/10 And 1/1 Dig is the only way to go.You can lock lock up the real and jost slide around the obstical.No need to back up.Rc4whd has a new and cheep one on the way.Good luck.

02-06-2008, 03:55 AM	#2
Mnster MWRCA'er Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Machesney Park IL Posts: 3,995	Dig, because I can use it in competition unlike rear steer. Dig has more benifits then just dragging the rear around turns. Once you have it you will find these uses, maybe. Digs are reliable if made and maintained correctly. If I drive for fun I might as well drive something worthy like a scale truck.

02-06-2008, 04:16 AM	#3
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	well i probably wont ever compete with this thing. i know that both rear steer and front digs can get you into and out of some hairy situations.

02-06-2008, 04:21 AM	#4
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	Rear steer sucks.

02-06-2008, 05:43 AM	#6
TJAugie Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 43	Dig, you never know IF you may compete, but you may. If you will NEVER and you know this, rear steer. Think about this though, with a dig set up that will let you lock, unlock, and let the rear move freely/disengaged, you will ultimately have more control over what the rear end does on climbs and descents. Again, personally I would go dig. I am going to once I can scare up some money or get a job.......mortgage comes first. I really need to win the lottery or something.

02-06-2008, 05:45 AM	#7
TJAugie Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 43	PS - you should add a third selection in the poll. Try both and see what I like more. It is just a matter of a servo and links for the rear steer, I think I could go pirate that stuff off some of my other RC's if I wanted to.....again, just food for thought.

02-06-2008, 05:58 AM	#8
intheworks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: winchester Posts: 226	great im getting some responses. keep it coming.

02-06-2008, 11:03 AM	#10
mysharona Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2007 Location: lacey Posts: 833	sweet vid of dig in action. need I say more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALA__XEVYzw

02-06-2008, 11:18 AM	#11
miller Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 524	And another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLLhLAIzODg and another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzOv5FwMoKc&NR=1 I haven't run rear steer yet.... very soon but I love dig I just don't like how bulky it is. My set up worked very well and was reliable but then I made my tuber and didn't make anything to be able to mount the extra servo to. The big advantage is being able to steer your truck on climbs with rear steer. I'll be running rear steer to see how I like it. I've just been waiting for the HD R2 with disco to come out. But like others said..rear steer is super quick to set up...do that, see how you like it and while you have a runner start building your dig...when it's done, run that and make your pick.

02-06-2008, 01:11 PM	#12
SaVaGe MaN SS Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Im Your Neighbor Posts: 203	never liked rear steer never helped much. i went with a dig on my comp rig.

02-06-2008, 01:25 PM	#13
\|maniac\| Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 32	Technically, can't you have both? The 3rd channel on the TQ3 for dig, and a y harness for rear stear. You'd have to reverse the leads on the rear servo to reverse it without reversing the front too (some servos don't work when you do this, or so I've found). If I had to choose, I'd go with dig, especially on a 2.2

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02-06-2008, 10:22 PM	#14
Greatscott I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Idaho Posts: 3,648	I have rear steer in my AX10, I am building a dig system for comps. I love the rear steer, it cuts the turn radius by at least half (more I think, haven't measured it). But, why is rear steer not allowed in comps?

02-06-2008, 10:31 PM	#16
iceman320 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Duchesne Posts: 377	rear steering is allowed in comps but only on the super class i think. I don;t know why it's not allowed on teh 2.2 class?

02-07-2008, 04:29 PM	#17
pncstod Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 69	I voted for the dig setup, just in case you want to compete--as someone else said, you never know if you may want to someday. I have never competed but would never set up my truck with something that couldnt be used in competition....just my 2 cents....

03-13-2008, 11:03 PM	#20
jrbraden Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clinton Posts: 2	when making a dig setup, would you want to make it to where your rear axle locks or freewheels?

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