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07-05-2009, 08:59 AM
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Looking into a first time crawler. Not planning on competition - just having fun. I seem to be stuck on 1/10 scale. Do not care to build. Would like a top performer out of the box (except maybe an upgrade kit from CKRC). Really like the look and price of the Axial RTC. Seems that the Losi 1/10 Comp crawler is a well designed rig (no torque twist). Hate to go over $300, but is this truck worth it? Integy 1/8 seems to be a good buy for RTR, but I don't know much about it's setup or quality. Don't like the idea of dual motors. My top choices at this time are the Axial RTC and Losi 1/10 Comp. What are your suggestions? |
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07-05-2009, 09:03 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX
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Either of those are good starting points. Both have their pros and cons...
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07-05-2009, 09:14 AM
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I didn't think the Losi had any cons except for the aluminum links to get scratched up. Would the RTC be better with a CKRC upgrade than a stock Losi? The price of the RTC is very attractive. | |
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07-05-2009, 09:17 AM
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The Losi seems to have been breaking CVDs rather quickly. You might want to read some of the threads in the LCC section. The Axial has been around for a few years now and seems to work quite well. There are also a TON of aftermarket parts for this truck. | |
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07-05-2009, 09:22 AM
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I've ran the Axial stuff for a long time. TONS of options out there for the Axial based rigs. Pretty good performer out of the box. I've not driven a Losi,heard they work pretty good out of the box though. The Losi being new,I'm sure they'll be lots of upgrades available soon. Browse through the different forums here and I'm sure you'll see ANY truck you buy/build,will need a few tweeks and/or upgrades. | |
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07-05-2009, 09:23 AM
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JeremyH said "The Losi seems to have been breaking CVDs rather quickly." Would this fix the CVD problem? http://www.losi.com/Products/Support...rodID=LOSA0051 Last edited by papaweely; 07-05-2009 at 10:39 AM. |
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07-05-2009, 09:23 AM
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The RTC's electronics suck. I would go with the Losi. It's a very nice rig, especially for the price. |
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07-05-2009, 09:40 AM
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What about the ARTR vs Losi? ... but I read that the RTC was better than the ARTR??? Last edited by papaweely; 07-05-2009 at 09:51 AM. | |
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07-05-2009, 11:55 AM
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Not sure about "better"....they are different. The ARTR has quite a few upgrades over the RTR and RTC.... Personally, I dont like RTR RC's.....the electronics are never up to par... |
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07-05-2009, 12:28 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: in the basement cussing my broke ass rig
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 Just my 5g of copper plated zinc. Good luck either way, it's a hell of an addiction...
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07-05-2009, 12:48 PM
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Either the front or rear gears can be easily swapped out for a set with a different ratio. This all but eliminates the any torque twist in the Axial... | |
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07-05-2009, 01:04 PM
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From what I have seen the Losi still has some torque twist. May not be near as much as the RTC AX10 outta the box but it is still there.
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07-05-2009, 01:18 PM
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The Losi just has much more gear reduction at the axles instead of at the motor... | |
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07-05-2009, 01:23 PM
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It is my understanding that any shaft driven vehicle suffers from torque twist or torque steer if we talk in on road terms no matter what you do a small amount will always be there. Physics is physics, can't beat that! Now as far as the topic is concerned I guess that if you are seeking only fun then go with the AX10. In both cases you want electronics (not the RTC), but in the case of Losi I see that you might need a better motor than a simple lathe that would do the job OK in a fun AX10. If you go with the losi the elec part I think will cost you more. All this taking into account the fact that you said you want a fun rig and not something to get you into competitions right away (almost). This what I'd do. |
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07-05-2009, 01:50 PM
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Most,if not all RC cars,even outside of crawling seem to come with electronics that work. Enough to have fun with the car....thats it. In ANY form of hobby,racing or sport,1:1 or scale...over the counter kits are never up to being on top of the game in competitions. Can you take a stock over the counter,well,anything and have fun with it? Sure. | |
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07-05-2009, 04:17 PM
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The Losi Mini 1/18 looks like fun, but, do you all agree that 1/10 is more capable/fun? | |
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07-05-2009, 05:02 PM
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2.2 class is better IMHO. The mini's are fun and all,but the 2.2 rigs are more capable. Some like the mini's better,some like the 2.2 class better. | |
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07-06-2009, 09:05 AM
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I was thinking to dip my toe in the water with a losi 1/18 MRC, then build a 1/10 (leaning towards the CR-01 for scale looks, but with one eye on the SCX10) that way I get my hit now, and can relax with a nice build later on. Plus I have something for indoor/garden crawling (my garden isn't big enough for a 1/10) |
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07-07-2009, 10:02 AM
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I like the plastic links for flex an no scratched up aluminum. Is the Axil RTR chassis similar to the RTC? Looking to buy used and thought that if the RTR was similar I could watch for that also.
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07-08-2009, 04:29 PM
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I pick the Ax10 ARTR, and I've been happy with my pick. It gave me the chance to pick my own electronics. This pick once said and done would put you over $300, so I guess this shouldn't be your pick. I guess you could get started with a Ax10 RTC to do some fun crawling. Last edited by fernando; 07-08-2009 at 04:32 PM. |
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