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cato · 02-03-2010, 10:47 AM

If you can always cut it with a lathe...However you said it had poor performance before you cleaned it out..Just looking at your first pic's of the com and some of the wires look fried..might be very wrong but if the insolation is sizzled it will never run right..send it back to HH if it is...Hope that helps...

shelljeep · 02-03-2010, 11:27 AM

So you're thinking I may need a new armature? I'm about to post up in the JRH CS thread, get the man himself's opinion on it too.
Thanks.

AlmstEvil665 · 02-03-2010, 04:18 PM

Your best bet is to get a hold of JRH through PM or post this in his motor help thread in the vendor section. Yes your com looks to need cut. Can't tell on your brushes because they are still in the hood. Looks like your timing is off and it is arching bad. JRH in 3..2..1..

shelljeep · 02-03-2010, 04:31 PM

I posted some pics in his tech help thread, as well as linked this one if he wanted more info. Thanks.

Raguvian · 02-03-2010, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelljeep

What's the break in procedure?
Do I keep it low rpm or vary it? How long should I run it?

Run it at 3 volts with two 1.5V C cell batteries with no load on it till the batteries are dead.

That's what I've read, anyways. I'm going to do that to my new motor but I'm going to stick it in a cup of rubbing alcohol first.

team3six · 02-03-2010, 04:48 PM

Here is some helpful information for those who want to cut their own Commutator.

Fist off here is a link to my electrical page.
http://www.team3sixrc.com/rcelectronics101.htm
second is a little walk through on cutting a comm
http://www.rcracingusa.net/commcutting.htm
next is a few lathes you can purchase.
You can get the Integy which for it being Integy isnt a bad cheapo. the only issue is its not the greatest lathe
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLBB7&P=7
But you want to invest in something like Hudy
http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/products/p...98cb89d86c96c3
or Much more
http://www.redrc.net/2007/11/much-more-commu-lathe-2/
I say that because having a good true diamond tiped lathe is the key to a good comm

BTW, you awlays replace your brushes after you cut the Comm.

In the long run, if your motors are expensive or you know how to cheat your motors to make them preform more efficiantly then its a good lesson to learn and an a good investment. But if its a cheapo motor that isnt hand wound or whatever the case may be. just purchase a new motor. Im sure John takes used motors.

shelljeep · 02-03-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raguvian

Run it at 3 volts with two 1.5V C cell batteries with no load on it till the batteries are dead.

That's what I've read, anyways. I'm going to do that to my new motor but I'm going to stick it in a cup of rubbing alcohol first.

What's the deal with the alcohol? What's it's purpose and please tell me you don't mean submerged?

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six

Here is some helpful information for those who want to cut their own Commutator.

THAT is going to take a while to wade thru. Thanks man!

Duuuuuuuude · 02-03-2010, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelljeep

What's the deal with the alcohol? What's it's purpose and please tell me you don't mean submerged?

Yeah, I've never heard of that either. Water, yes. Alchohol, no.

team3six · 02-03-2010, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelljeep

What's the deal with the alcohol? What's it's purpose and please tell me you don't mean submerged?

THAT is going to take a while to wade thru. Thanks man!

What are you talking about? did ya read the post I left you. It has a walk through.

crawldog · 02-04-2010, 12:23 AM

i tryed cutting the comm 1 time... put the motor all back together hit the gas and instant smoke and flame lol musta done something wrong

shelljeep · 02-04-2010, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six

What are you talking about? did ya read the post I left you. It has a walk through.

Chill out man. Yeah, I read the entire post, I was just saying thanks for the ton of info.

Rockcrawler · 02-05-2010, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

I've not looked, but I wonder if the HH Pullers will even fit in a comm cutter? I could look I guess...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbob

not the normal lathes ...... arms are to long.

I have not tried it yet (will tomorrow) but it looks like the hudy will cut it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelljeep

So who do you guys get to turn your comms?

If I get a chance to check tomorrow, and everything looks good, you can send it to me for a cut.

I am going to try to cut mine.

shelljeep · 02-05-2010, 07:22 AM

Very cool of you, thanks! After speaking w/JRH, I decided to send it his direction so he could give it a once over.

Raguvian · 02-05-2010, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelljeep

What's the deal with the alcohol? What's it's purpose and please tell me you don't mean submerged?

THAT is going to take a while to wade thru. Thanks man!

Yes, I mean submerged. I'm still reading up on it though... apparently it cleans better and evaporates faster but I'm not sure...

I might just throw the motor in some distilled water though, just to be safe.

Rockcrawler · 02-12-2010, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockcrawler

I have not tried it yet (will tomorrow) but it looks like the hudy will cut it.

If I get a chance to check tomorrow, and everything looks good, you can send it to me for a cut.

I am going to try to cut mine.

Sweet!

I have not had time to cut it yet but it fits with room to spare.

JeremyH · 02-12-2010, 07:56 AM

Damn....that's a fancy lathe!

EeePee · 02-12-2010, 08:13 AM

Damn, might have to go shopping for one.

shelljeep · 02-12-2010, 11:11 AM

Got an email from jrh a couple days ago, comm is cut, brushes replaced, new endbell, bearings, already broken in and should arrive today with a Torquemaster ESC and CC BEC. One week turnaround since I shipped.

Stormin2u · 02-12-2010, 01:03 PM

My Cobra comm lathe won't cut a puller arm but I would cut a comm that looked like yours and throw on new bushes it would be better than new.

Rockcrawler · 02-12-2010, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyH

Damn....that's a fancy lathe!

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

Damn, might have to go shopping for one.

They are nice to have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelljeep

Got an email from jrh a couple days ago, comm is cut, brushes replaced, new endbell, bearings, already broken in and should arrive today with a Torquemaster ESC and CC BEC. One week turnaround since I shipped.

Good deal! I need to go ahead and order up some brushes too.

02-03-2010, 10:47 AM	#21
cato RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WHEAT RIDGE, CO Posts: 1,102	If you can always cut it with a lathe...However you said it had poor performance before you cleaned it out..Just looking at your first pic's of the com and some of the wires look fried..might be very wrong but if the insolation is sizzled it will never run right..send it back to HH if it is...Hope that helps...

02-03-2010, 11:27 AM	#22
shelljeep RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,077	So you're thinking I may need a new armature? I'm about to post up in the JRH CS thread, get the man himself's opinion on it too. Thanks.

02-03-2010, 04:18 PM	#23
AlmstEvil665 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hagerstown Posts: 369	Your best bet is to get a hold of JRH through PM or post this in his motor help thread in the vendor section. Yes your com looks to need cut. Can't tell on your brushes because they are still in the hood. Looks like your timing is off and it is arching bad. JRH in 3..2..1..

02-03-2010, 04:31 PM	#24
shelljeep RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,077	I posted some pics in his tech help thread, as well as linked this one if he wanted more info. Thanks.

02-03-2010, 04:48 PM	#26
team3six www.team3sixrc.com Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scalerville Posts: 4,506	Here is some helpful information for those who want to cut their own Commutator. Fist off here is a link to my electrical page. http://www.team3sixrc.com/rcelectronics101.htm second is a little walk through on cutting a comm http://www.rcracingusa.net/commcutting.htm next is a few lathes you can purchase. You can get the Integy which for it being Integy isnt a bad cheapo. the only issue is its not the greatest lathe http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLBB7&P=7 But you want to invest in something like Hudy http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/products/p...98cb89d86c96c3 or Much more http://www.redrc.net/2007/11/much-more-commu-lathe-2/ I say that because having a good true diamond tiped lathe is the key to a good comm BTW, you awlays replace your brushes after you cut the Comm. In the long run, if your motors are expensive or you know how to cheat your motors to make them preform more efficiantly then its a good lesson to learn and an a good investment. But if its a cheapo motor that isnt hand wound or whatever the case may be. just purchase a new motor. Im sure John takes used motors.

02-04-2010, 12:23 AM	#30
crawldog Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MODESTO Posts: 142	i tryed cutting the comm 1 time... put the motor all back together hit the gas and instant smoke and flame lol musta done something wrong

02-05-2010, 07:22 AM	#33
shelljeep RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,077	Very cool of you, thanks! After speaking w/JRH, I decided to send it his direction so he could give it a once over.

02-12-2010, 07:56 AM	#36
JeremyH I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 16,952	Damn....that's a fancy lathe!

02-12-2010, 08:13 AM	#37
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Damn, might have to go shopping for one.

02-12-2010, 11:11 AM	#38
shelljeep RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,077	Got an email from jrh a couple days ago, comm is cut, brushes replaced, new endbell, bearings, already broken in and should arrive today with a Torquemaster ESC and CC BEC. One week turnaround since I shipped.

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02-12-2010, 01:03 PM	#39
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	My Cobra comm lathe won't cut a puller arm but I would cut a comm that looked like yours and throw on new bushes it would be better than new.

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