07-04-2010, 07:02 AM | #1 |
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Hi Im going to start a new build soon, and i need some help. I'll be starting with an Axial SCX10 4WD Trail Honcho Kit, should i use brushed or brussless?, I like the idea of driving in mud and water. Whats a good ESC to use, I was thing of using a Castle Mamba Max Pro or an LRP Crawler Brushless Reverse then I seen this Ansmann Racing Brushless Set and I have a 55t Rooster Crawler combo. i've never used brushless so any input you can give will help alot. Thanks. |
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07-04-2010, 08:22 AM | #2 |
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If you are doing mud and water a cheap 27t or 35t motor is your best bet. I would get a decent ESC with drag brake and lipo cutoff as well and just seal it in a waterproof box, balloon, or a condom which is what I use with my FXR. You really don't want to put a nice expensive brushless motor through the mud or a nice brushed motor for that matter. For ESC's I would recommend the Tekin FXR or Castle Sidewinder set to brushed mode. The MM Pro is really overkill for the SCX. |
07-04-2010, 08:39 AM | #3 |
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Hi TexasSP Would the Castle sidewinder 1/18 ESC do, I think i seen somewhere it has the same spec as the 1/10. Thanks |
07-04-2010, 10:33 AM | #4 |
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I agree with TexasSP on the Pro being over kill . If you dont already own one then you can buy a much less expensive esc for this purpose . BL and water dont mix so I would also recommend brushed here . I personally have the pro and I run brushed . As a matter of fact Im currently building a scale truck for the mud and Im gonna use my Pro with duall brushed 27turns and keep the esc in a project box . As long as I keep the runs within reason the esc will not over heat . That being said if you want an esc that you can use for other rigs with high amp demands then go for the pro . Just make sure it dont get wet . With one motor I would probably go with a 35 so you can have enough torque for the mud and enough wheel speed to clean out the tires . 11.1v lipo will spin the sh*t out of a 35turn brushed motor but make sure it can handle the voltage . Only thing is lipo dont like water either so maybe try 8 , 9 , or 10 cell nimh . I plasti dip my lipos and grease the terminals to water proof them . And make sure you clean the motor after each run in the mud or water otherwise it wont last long . Im not sure about the 1/18 sidewinder . Maybe you can check the Mamba site for comparison .
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07-04-2010, 10:44 AM | #5 |
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Thanks pimp I might get the mmpro and put it in my high lift, will it be overkill in a high lift, then put my rooster in the axial, I dont want a mud truck or a submarine just something cheapish that I can drive in the rain, would the rooster and a 27t-45t motor be ok for that. Thanks |
07-04-2010, 04:01 PM | #6 |
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Anythying over the sidewinder is really overkill in either truck. You could use the micro, but it would be close and I prefer giving things a little more buffer than that. I wouldn't use the micro with anything less than a 35t motor though.
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07-04-2010, 04:53 PM | #7 |
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Thanks TexasSP Ok i wont get the micro, I think i'll get the 1/10 sidewinder and a 35t and see what it runs like. will a spektrum s6020 be an ok servo. And should i get a BEC is the scx10 still the best start for a scale build. Thanks. |
07-04-2010, 10:10 PM | #8 |
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Im not familiar with the servo but anything spectrum is quality . And yes the scx-10 is a great place to start . The pro is over kill but you dont have to run it to its full potential . It really comes down to the price . A sidewinder is much cheaper and very capable for this application . I have the Pro because I can run 2cell and get good results or can fly one of my buggies to the moon with 6cell . I have seen the Pro reach some serious top speeds and Im not just a crawler guy so it was the best investment for me . If you dont plan to set speed records then the sidewinder is the best bet for both of your rigs . The sidewinder can push a motor very well itself . I just prefer the versatility of the Pro .
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07-05-2010, 05:58 AM | #9 |
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Thanks pimp i'll get a sidewinder, I dont need to get to the moon yet, maybe for my next RC. I have a spektrum s6010 7.5kg in my high lift and its abit weak sometimes, would that mean i need a BEC? Thanks for the input. |
07-05-2010, 05:51 PM | #10 |
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As a rule if you have a servo you need a bec because it always helps . But to answer your question yes . If the servo seems weak at times but not all the time then a bec will likely fix the problem . You cant go wrong getting a bec .
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07-05-2010, 06:33 PM | #11 |
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Thanks rc_pimp i'll add BEC to the list of parts. i'll post the list of part before i order. |
07-05-2010, 07:11 PM | #12 |
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Happy to help . If any other questions come up feel free to ask .
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In fact in the MM Pro and many of Castles newer ESC's the internal BEC'shave been beefed up enough not to need an external. | |
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