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Old 06-09-2023, 02:25 PM   #1
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Default Crawler info/history to share. Facts nice to know

Hi guys

I dont know alot about RC Crawlers. My friends have asked also couple
questions and i dont have answers. I do self wonder many things also.

I start with these questions.


1 Who Released the First RTR comp style RC Crawler? (real rc crawler)
Was it Losi with the very old Nightcrawler?

2 Is the first Scale Trail Truck that are more Advanced Tamiya Toyota ?
With 4ch radio, 3speed. And other stuff. Is this from 90s ?

3 Where did RC Crawling start? USA ? Self made Comp rigs?

4 When did RC Crawling Competitions start? What year and where?

5 What manufacturer released Portal axles first? TRX4 ? other?

6 First 2 speed by remote, TRX4 ? other?

7 First remote locked diffs ? TRX4? other?

8 Names of important people in this Hobby ? I know about Adam Drake
Big name in RC Offroad racing ( champion many times )
What names are big in RC Crawling?

9 Biggest brand / Most sold Rigs. Axial? Traxxas? Other?


10 Best Crawlers out of box today ? Vanquish? 1/10 SCX10 PRO kit? other?
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Old 06-09-2023, 03:18 PM   #2
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The answer to every question is tamiya

Yes every question
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Old 06-09-2023, 03:41 PM   #3
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The answer to every question is tamiya

Yes every question
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Old 06-09-2023, 03:45 PM   #4
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The answer to every question is tamiya

Yes every question
HAHA.

What is the model by Tamiya that has Portals?
And 2speed by remote `?
And diff lock by remote?
Also have they any Comp Crawler? I mean real Competition, not toy gradish.

Tamiya have Scale/Trail rigs only what i seen.
Well you can do crawling and things. Anyways they are not advanced
very capable Crawler rigs to be honest.

One old True Comp Crawler is the Losi Night Crawler.
Is this the first True Comp RTR ?

Can someone be serious please
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Old 06-09-2023, 03:59 PM   #5
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Here is the First real Comp Crawler RTR/KIT .AXIAL year 2007



Released in 2007, the Axial AX10 can easily be called the one crawler that forever changed RC crawling. Previous to the AX10, enthusiasts had to piece together components from multiple kits and multiple vendors to make an RC crawler. It was fun and there was certainly a lot of creativity, but not everyone wanted to or would go this route. As a result, crawling was a segment that showed great promise, was getting a lot of attention, and yet still stayed relatively small. Then came the AX10 Scorpion.



The Comp in Kit/RTR started 2007.
This is fresh Part of this hobby compared to old Kyosho and Team ASS
Racing cars.

Old modified Clodbusters from Tamiya is what people did do Crawling with
back todays. Anyways the serious ones started with Axial 2007.



The AX10 was the first purpose-built rock crawler that delivered great looks, high performance, and durability. The AX10 made it easy for consumers and hobby shops to give rock crawling a shot. And people did — lots of them. The segment exploded and continues to be one of the best-selling segments in all of RC.


The AX10 featured a side plate chassis design and a linked suspension with substantial articulation. It was a solid performer. There were many variations of the AX10, but one of most popular was the AX10 Scorpion XC-1, which featured the unique XC-1 body and Axial's Rock Lizards tires wrapped around Axial's Rockster beadlock wheels.



The AX10 wasn't the only time Axial changed rock crawling in a big way. The AX10 was later followed by the SCX10 that forever changed scale RC rock crawling.

https://www.axialadventure.com/axi-b...back-ax10.html


We have to thank Axial for what this RC Crawling Hobby is today.
Atleast when it comes to Comp Kits and RTR.

World needs more of these Comp Kits and RTR.

Before there was atleast 30 different. Many Chinese too.

It is too much Scale and Trail now. More COMP Rigs please
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Old 06-09-2023, 06:11 PM   #6
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Tamiya
Portals dynahead
2 speed maybe not but tamiya has 3 speed in alot of rigs
Locking diffs tamiya king hauler
Crawler tamiya tlt clodbuster cr01
Again since tamiya has been around so long they started it all and have done it all did they do it the best maybe not but they did it
Axial and losi are both new kids on the block they made alot of improvments in the scale and capabuiliy department
Heck most moa crawlers are based off of and improved apon versions of the clod buster

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Old 06-09-2023, 08:26 PM   #7
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Pti Goliath was the first KIT crawler. Pti Goliath

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Old 06-12-2023, 01:34 AM   #8
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Lots not forget the TLT axle based crawlers. Bender chassis. The wheely king also. That was mine. I extended the links, flipped the battery to the front and made a servo on axle mount. The ax10 kit did change the game. Losi came after with the comp crawler and worm gears.
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Old 06-12-2023, 06:44 AM   #9
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There is a entire section dedicated to the old crawlers

RCCrawler Brand Specific Tech - Heritage Crawlers at RCCrawler.com
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Old 06-12-2023, 02:28 PM   #10
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Tamiya
Portals dynahead
2 speed maybe not but tamiya has 3 speed in alot of rigs
Locking diffs tamiya king hauler
Crawler tamiya tlt clodbuster cr01
Again since tamiya has been around so long they started it all and have done it all did they do it the best maybe not but they did it
Axial and losi are both new kids on the block they made alot of improvments in the scale and capabuiliy department
Heck most moa crawlers are based off of and improved apon versions of the clod buster
Nice info, thanx.

Well then we have alot to thanx Tamiya because they have been the ones
that innovated these things.
Thanx to Tamiya modern rigs have these today.

Who was first with DIG ? Axial?
Axial DIG sucks? Vanquish have one really nice DIG
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Pti Goliath was the first KIT crawler. Pti Goliath
Haha, cool 1/18. Looks maybe more MT than Crawler.
Maybe Hybrid, both crawler and monster truck in same.

Cool. 2005 released





Looks big to be 1/18
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Lots not forget the TLT axle based crawlers. Bender chassis. The wheely king also. That was mine. I extended the links, flipped the battery to the front and made a servo on axle mount. The ax10 kit did change the game. Losi came after with the comp crawler and worm gears.
what year they released wheely king?

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There is a entire section dedicated to the old crawlers

RCCrawler Brand Specific Tech - Heritage Crawlers at RCCrawler.com
must check out that tomorrow

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Old 06-13-2023, 12:33 PM   #13
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Crawlers in general...
There was a crawler out before the Goliath that was a kit, but I don't remember the name of it. This crawler, like the PTI rig really didn't not have much mass appeal, and didn't sell well.

The first mass-produced/mass-consumed crawler was the Axial Scorpion, which more or less blew the crawler niche wide open. This was in 2007 or so.

The first true comp-crawler, MOA style was the Berg. Not sure when this guy actually was introduced, but it had to be some time around 2008-2009.

After that was the Axial XR-10. Then came the Losi Comp Crawler, which shook things up a bit with its shaft worm-driven design. Overall it was a good rig, but the worm gears needed continual maintenance and the dig system could be finicky. Also, it was more or less made for a high-speed brushless system, and would fry a brushed motor in a heartbeat. Losi came out with their Night Crawler shortly after this, which ditched the dig and changed the gearing, making it friendier to brushed motors.

Sadly, after about two years of awesome comp crawling $2k - $3k rigs came the norm, and it drove the new kids away from comp crawling. They tried making a shaft-driven sportsman class the attract the new kids, but all of the douches that could not hang with the Pro class dumped mad money into their sporties to beat up on the new kids. In the end, comp crawling died out and scale crawling came into its own.

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