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LAV25 · 01-17-2011, 03:27 AM

Is there any way to prevent CA (superglue) from fogging clear parts? I scratchbuilt a lightbar last night that I was pretty happy with, but didn't consider the fogging effect, and now it's not so pretty. Not the actual contact area, which is hidden, but the area around that. I need to bond aluminum to plastic, I guess I could go buy some epoxy, but that's more time and expense than I'd prefer if there's a way around it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-val

JeremyH · 01-17-2011, 05:26 AM

I believe it is the fumes that causes this....set it in front of a fan to let it dry.

Bones750 · 01-17-2011, 06:42 AM

I use a lot of CA glue in my woodworking business. While it will fog on wood as well as plastic, I usually find when using the med. or heavy viscosity version, that by allowing the glue to set just a bit longer before hitting it with the accelerator and spraying it with a lighter mist from a bit further away will often prevent the fogging. I have not found it to compromise the bond.

Gula · 01-17-2011, 06:44 AM

Use ShooGoo

team3six · 01-17-2011, 06:54 AM

CA or Super glue will always do that. The only way to avoid that is to tape off the area close to the glueing point with masking tape or better yet parma liquid mask. Then remove when done. Some of the other options would be epoxy, or a better r/c application of shoe goo or stronger still, E-6000 which can be picked up in the craft isle of walmart for $2.99 . A less flexible but strong glue is gorilla glue.

dont slow down · 01-17-2011, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six

CA or Super glue will always do that. The only way to avoid that is to tape off the area close to the glueing point with masking tape or better yet parma liquid mask. Then remove when done. Some of the other options would be epoxy, or a better r/c application of shoe goo or stronger still, E-6000 which can be picked up in the craft isle of walmart for $2.99 . A less flexible but strong glue is gorilla glue.

Ahh E-6000. The miracle glue that my mom always swore by. When I was a kid she would always fix my toys with that stuff. The only down side is the drying time.

LAV25 · 01-17-2011, 07:54 AM

Thanks guys, I'll have to dig around. Kind of a random thought, when I told a friend of mine (not an RC guy) about the problem, he suggested just masking the area with either cellophane tape or smearing (gack) butter on the area meant to remain clear....

Crazy?

-val

LAV25 · 01-17-2011, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six

The only way to avoid that is to tape off the area close to the glueing point with masking tape .

I'm using a gel superglue now, but I held some parts together earlier on (drive shaft sections) with regular beige masking tape and ended up with a rock hard laminate when the thin superglue spread a bit farther than I thought it would....

-val

team3six · 01-17-2011, 08:20 AM

Cello tape will bond. CA melts thin plastic.
and as far as E-6000 goes. It will fully cure in about an hour.
remember, patience wins always.
And yes, you'll have less fogging with gel. You shouldn't use alot at all. That's what I use to bond my scale parts

sean68 · 01-17-2011, 09:22 AM

Using a kicker(accelerator), and good ventilation will solve the problem. Works for me.

LIFTED-ZJ · 01-17-2011, 10:24 AM

Use canopy glue for R/C planes. It is made not to fog so the when gluing the canopy down you dont have that issue, Thats what I used on my RPM light bar to glue the lenses in and it is clear as day

Pic so you can see it

MTHead · 01-17-2011, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIFTED-ZJ

Use canopy glue for R/C planes. It is made not to fog so the when gluing the canopy down you dont have that issue, Thats what I used on my RPM light bar to glue the lenses in and it is clear as day

Ding, ding.. winner...

Best stuff to use with clear parts.

Either RC56 from Tower
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXR529&P=ML

or this http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHE49&P=7

Can't remember the other manufacturer, comes in a little white bottle with blue writing..

LAV25 · 01-17-2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIFTED-ZJ

Use canopy glue for R/C planes. It is made not to fog so the when gluing the canopy down you dont have that issue, Thats what I used on my RPM light bar to glue the lenses in and it is clear as day

That sounds like a plan, the LHS has a pretty good airplane and helicopter section, I'll have to see what's available here but I'm sure something will pop up.

Thanks to all!

-val

helhedded · 01-17-2011, 02:58 PM

This will clean it up.

Fashine PAR40203

STANG KILLA SS · 01-17-2011, 03:10 PM

simple, use CA kicker and fogging will never happen.

they do make some ca remover you could rub on/off after the damage is already done.

but the kicker will prevent it from ever happening.

01-17-2011, 03:27 AM	#1
LAV25 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 425	CA fogging blocker? Is there any way to prevent CA (superglue) from fogging clear parts? I scratchbuilt a lightbar last night that I was pretty happy with, but didn't consider the fogging effect, and now it's not so pretty. Not the actual contact area, which is hidden, but the area around that. I need to bond aluminum to plastic, I guess I could go buy some epoxy, but that's more time and expense than I'd prefer if there's a way around it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -val Last edited by LAV25; 01-17-2011 at 03:28 AM. Reason: unclear title

01-17-2011, 08:20 AM	#9
team3six www.team3sixrc.com Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scalerville Posts: 4,506	Cello tape will bond. CA melts thin plastic. and as far as E-6000 goes. It will fully cure in about an hour. remember, patience wins always. And yes, you'll have less fogging with gel. You shouldn't use alot at all. That's what I use to bond my scale parts Last edited by team3six; 01-17-2011 at 08:23 AM.

01-17-2011, 05:26 AM	#2
JeremyH I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 16,952	I believe it is the fumes that causes this....set it in front of a fan to let it dry.

01-17-2011, 06:42 AM	#3
Bones750 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Flushing Posts: 8	I use a lot of CA glue in my woodworking business. While it will fog on wood as well as plastic, I usually find when using the med. or heavy viscosity version, that by allowing the glue to set just a bit longer before hitting it with the accelerator and spraying it with a lighter mist from a bit further away will often prevent the fogging. I have not found it to compromise the bond.

01-17-2011, 06:44 AM	#4
Gula I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Here Posts: 2,320	Use ShooGoo

01-17-2011, 06:54 AM	#5
team3six www.team3sixrc.com Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scalerville Posts: 4,506	CA or Super glue will always do that. The only way to avoid that is to tape off the area close to the glueing point with masking tape or better yet parma liquid mask. Then remove when done. Some of the other options would be epoxy, or a better r/c application of shoe goo or stronger still, E-6000 which can be picked up in the craft isle of walmart for $2.99 . A less flexible but strong glue is gorilla glue.

01-17-2011, 07:54 AM	#7
LAV25 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 425	Thanks guys, I'll have to dig around. Kind of a random thought, when I told a friend of mine (not an RC guy) about the problem, he suggested just masking the area with either cellophane tape or smearing (gack) butter on the area meant to remain clear.... Crazy? -val

01-17-2011, 09:22 AM	#10
sean68 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 107	Using a kicker(accelerator), and good ventilation will solve the problem. Works for me.

01-17-2011, 10:24 AM	#11
LIFTED-ZJ Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tualatin, Eugene Or Posts: 313	Use canopy glue for R/C planes. It is made not to fog so the when gluing the canopy down you dont have that issue, Thats what I used on my RPM light bar to glue the lenses in and it is clear as day Pic so you can see it

01-17-2011, 02:58 PM	#14
helhedded I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,786	This will clean it up. Fashine PAR40203

01-17-2011, 03:10 PM	#15
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	simple, use CA kicker and fogging will never happen. they do make some ca remover you could rub on/off after the damage is already done. but the kicker will prevent it from ever happening.

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