07-20-2007, 09:48 PM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albuquerque
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I just started using faskolor paints and my body came out good but the paint seemed to be rough to the touch....Am I spraying at too low PSI? I used 70 but the Iwata sompressor I have seems to lose pressure really fast...what compressor is the best for this stuff???
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07-20-2007, 10:16 PM | #2 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In Cali.
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70 psi is to much. I use around 30-35 on solid colors. I use the Iwata too. If you are spraying fades, back it down even more. Pearls and such need less psi too. | |
07-22-2007, 01:38 PM | #3 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LaSalle
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Yea most airbrush setups require 25-35 psi depending on what you are spraying.
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07-22-2007, 07:49 PM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando
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Does the Iwata have a tank?,or is it just the motor running pumping air? If the paint is rough to the touch,that might be from too much PSI. If you remember Floyds Purple and Orange Hummer and Hal's Green Jeep I painted...those did that when I shot them with my Pasche'. I don't how long you've been painting,but I shot everything at 40+/- PSI and thin the paint as if it were milk......JMO
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07-22-2007, 08:20 PM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Albuquerque
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DJ is right, one of the big keys are to thin the paint out quite a bit. It may take an extra layer to get the depth you want, but it dries faster and looks better. I did exactly the same settings on that brown bug I did that everyone really liked around here. |
07-23-2007, 08:57 AM | #6 |
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I agree. I use a VL Pash brush and an OLD compressor that was my grandfather's. It doesn't have any tank and puts out about 15lbs. That pressure works great for me. You want the paint to have about the consistancy of milk to spray. That'll work great
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07-23-2007, 09:26 AM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In Cali.
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Buy an old cheap hairdryer. This will speed up the dry time between coats. Keep practicing and it will come to you. You will learn as you go. |
07-23-2007, 11:31 AM | #8 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: northampton
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be careful with the heat source tho. If it gets too hot too fast it can crack. Basically will look like the paint is cracked and bubbled
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07-25-2007, 07:47 AM | #9 |
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I usually spray main colors at 20-25 psi and shadows and other effects at 15 or so, just for more control over the paint flow. With Faskolor, I use Windex as a thinner and it seems to be working pretty well. The only colors I don't thin out are my flourescent backing colors, because otherwise they lose their opacity. Although my brush (Paasche VL) struggles with the thick silver, so i'll often do a few coats of thinned silver and back that with white. 70 psi on Faskolor, you're basically spraying dried paint.
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09-26-2007, 03:26 PM | #10 |
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I'm looking at these three from Harbor. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47407 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92415 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95060 Can anyone make a recommendation on which one would be better? Also, about how loud do you think these things are? Thanks, Tom |
09-27-2007, 11:40 AM | #11 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: between heaven and hell.
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But from the choices you've posted I'd go with the 2 gallon because it simply will hold more air and won't run as much. If you plan on using other air tools with it I'd suggest something larger, it sucks starting something then having to wait for the air to catch up with you. | |
09-27-2007, 12:54 PM | #12 |
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I probably won't use it for anything other than air brushing, maybe to blow off my rigs some times but thats about it. How loud do you think these things are? This will be in my basement so I hope not too loud. Thanks, Tom |
09-27-2007, 01:26 PM | #13 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corruptifornia
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Get at least a two gallon tank, you won't have to hear it run as often especially blowing off your trucks...they are all louder than you want to hear....the cheaper ones are usually louder. Ask to plug one in and hear it run. Last edited by Natedog; 09-27-2007 at 01:30 PM. | |
09-27-2007, 04:00 PM | #14 |
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Hey guys, I think I'm gonna go with this one: http://www.airbrushcity.com/2010.htm I guess I should've mentioned that I'm statione in Germany so I can't go listen to them in person. Now I just need to find a good place to order paint from. The hobby shop I found here only had the tiny Testor sized bottles of paint and they were 6 euro(about $10) each Tom |
09-27-2007, 08:49 PM | #15 | |
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It's worth 70 bucks for sure. EDIT: sorry, the one I had was the same compressor, basically, but bigger. Harbor freight will also take just about anything back in any condition if you buy the $10 2 year warranty. I took 6 (yes, six) 12" Tile Saws back within a year (abusing them) and they replaced every one on the spot. Last edited by GreenRiver; 09-27-2007 at 08:55 PM. | |
09-27-2007, 09:04 PM | #16 |
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Wow, I didn't know they were that good about taking stuff back. So how loud is that compressor? Would it wake up the wife if I used it in my basement in the middle of the night?
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09-28-2007, 06:46 AM | #17 |
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You have to buy the warranty to return stuff with few questions asked. That compressor will be loud. I accidentally left mine plugged in inside the great-room of a house I was laying floor in... it kicked on at 3 a.m. after I was long gone. It was loud enough for the owners to be sprung from bed and think a thousand thoughts of terror within a minute before they figured out what the noise was. |
09-28-2007, 07:12 AM | #18 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In Cali.
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I get the warranty too. It is priced on how much the item cost. So it could be more than $10.00 depending on the item price. | |
09-28-2007, 08:04 AM | #19 |
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I picked up a 150 psi porter cable 6 gallon compressor at home depot on clearance for $200. It was the one that came with the finish nailer and a hand sander. It has been great and I think still on clearance. I haven't used it for air brushing yet but will soon.
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09-28-2007, 10:43 AM | #20 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Racking my Brain
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What ever you get make sure it is oil lubed. It might be a little more trouble maintenance wise (changing/filling oil) but is worth it in the end. Ive had this one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94724 from Harbor Frieght for a little over 3 years. I use it at work and I beat the crap out of it cleaning cars(probably 4 a day on average)and air brushing one or two bodies a week). If you go to one of H F's tool sales you cant get one for $75.00.
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