03-14-2013, 06:26 AM | #501 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Yeah, I liked being kept away from the course while others ran, but I wasn't a big fan of dropping all scores from the day. However, we all knew that's how it would be from the beginning of the day... |
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03-14-2013, 07:36 AM | #502 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stowe
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
I have really enjoyed watching the scores and pics roll in from the shootout. My club will be hosting a USRCCA Qualifier and I am also very interested if we should have a finals course and what the format should be. I look forward to everyones insight. Thanks, John |
03-14-2013, 08:52 AM | #503 |
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: BorderLine Crawlers Season 3 is on!
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| No complaints at all
The comp was well run, everyone knew the format going into it, organizers followed that format to the letter aside from having to come up with an impromptu tie breaker for the final (which all drivers agreed to) and a winner was decided. Great driving Don! Only suggestion here is to decide on all possible tie-breaker formats before the comp. The "shootout" format required there be a shootout (per Rich). I like the no-look finals course. It was like a real shootout, you take 10 paces not seeing your opponent then turn and shoot. Last man standing wins. Way to go Don! Was it somewhat disappointing that DWray fell behind in the final out of the trophies? Yes, because he drove his ass off and came up short. I can relate to his feelings (note my last two performances at Nationals...choke...gate!). Only the winner deserved to win. If DWray wouldn't have stroked it in pool play we'd not be having a lot of these discussions. All that said. I don't like finals courses and second SDS's comments. I prefer 7 courses and let the best, most consistent driver win. But until I decide to man up and run a comp I can't complain about how anyone else runs their comp (to paraphrase Erik). Great comp gents. Congrats Don. Welcome to my club DWray...we just need to learn how to drive finals courses. |
03-14-2013, 05:55 PM | #504 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Apple Valley,CA
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Every single one of those reply's is exactly what I was hoping to hear. Its the comments and input from you guys that will determine how future comps should be ran. Just from those few reply's I got a couple of idea's on how to improve on the overall winner. If I remember correctly we were done around 2:30 and I was only waiting on scores from the judges course's around the 3pm deadline. As efficient as the day went we could have easily ran 7 or maybe even squeezed in an 8th course (providing we could find judges). From the sound of it, all we REALLY need to do is keep the shootout course sequestered from all the drivers in contention instead of wiping scores to make guys happy. Im thinking West Coast SHOWDOWN instead of shootout for next time and keep scores from the day going into the last course. For this particular event we did want to give any one of the top 10 a legitimate chance at the title and thats how it went down. Yes that was the reason for sequestered drivers BUT......... as you and I both know sometimes an over zealous fan may be guilty of a little hint now and then once he has seen previous drivers run. I myself am terrible at watching a guy drive and not accidentally shout out "try the left side". So to me (and this is just to me) I would think there may have been the tiniest advantage to running last. And besides that, how awesome would it be to have EVERYONE at the event, including the top 10 previous drivers, stand there and watch you put on a perfect run for the title in the last run of the day? |
03-14-2013, 06:43 PM | #505 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: AT THE DRAGON'S LAIR
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
I would like to reinforce what Erik Dlux said, "a well organized event"! this is very true, you guys did an amazing job at keeping things going fluently, the camaraderie, the professionalism, and good sportsmanship were all there! the snacks and waters on the course tables, for everyone to enjoy, what a nice detail! Not to mention all the goodies and awards handed out all weekend long, makes it feel the drivers efforts are well appreciated! I really like the idea of more courses at this events. On course 4, Hoppa, 8-454, and myself where running drivers thru for about an hour. I really think that kinda thing, gives the day a much more relaxed feel, get the bulk of the people early. It seems to have set a good pace! I would be more than happy to judge for you guys again, if you guys need the help, contributing to help all of us have more fun is at the top of my list! |
03-14-2013, 07:50 PM | #506 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: barstow
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
thanks for all the input guys as it is very appreciated and things to take into consideration for any possible future events. I personally was wanting to step out of the box and try a few things different and having Jim's ideas along with our clubs support and ideas really helped in some decision making. we did research, read about other events, talked to drivers who have been to other USRCCA events, I had only been to 1 USRCCA event before this so I really was after input. little things like the snacks and details always seem to make a difference. Juan you are absolutely correct about making the drivers feel appreciated and judges as well. because no matter how much we do on our end without all you guys it wouldnt amount to a hill of beans |
03-17-2013, 01:42 PM | #507 |
2006 2.2 National Champ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Bear Lake
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Highlight video is up! Video - 2013 West Coast Shootout |
03-17-2013, 02:31 PM | #508 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: FONTANA
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
nice video Brad, thanks for sharing.
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03-17-2013, 02:42 PM | #509 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: barstow
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
very nice Brad thanks for taking the time to make the video and share with all of us
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03-17-2013, 06:06 PM | #510 |
D-Wray 4 Prez! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Shh
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Sweet Vid! I guess my crawling wasn't that great to make the video. |
11-14-2013, 05:04 PM | #511 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: AT THE DRAGON'S LAIR
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Is there going to be a 2014 WCS?
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11-14-2013, 06:57 PM | #512 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Apple Valley,CA
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Unfotunately not this year Juan.
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11-15-2013, 07:36 AM | #513 |
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11-15-2013, 08:26 AM | #514 |
Wanna get? Gotta want. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SLC, UT
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Yep. IMO, best run comp of the year or maybe that I have ever been to? Hopefully somebody, anybody does a west coast qualifier this year...... |
11-15-2013, 08:27 AM | #515 |
RcBros Hobbies Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oregon
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Sucks to hear this, spent a weekend over in eastern oregon and drove over 900 miles looking for a suitable comp spot with no luck. We have several in Western Oregon/Washington, but I fear that if rain were to hit, the comp would be ruined. So I'm torn.
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11-15-2013, 10:08 AM | #516 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Great Outdoors
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
Got any hard-core jeep & rock-buggy clubs near that area? Bet they'd know where the rocks are. Maybe you can find a local on Pirate4x4. |
11-15-2013, 11:00 AM | #517 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: OC
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout
i dont think anyone realizes how hard (LOTS OF EFFORT) to throw such a gathering....hands down the best comp.
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11-15-2013, 11:57 AM | #518 |
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11-15-2013, 10:22 PM | #519 |
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11-15-2013, 11:04 PM | #520 | |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: AT THE DRAGON'S LAIR
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| Re: 2013 Westcoast Shootout Sad to know... Quote:
Hope for next year... | |
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