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the_ghetto_rig 05-06-2011 07:54 AM

Scale rally racing...!
 
This little niche may be common knowledge, but I recently stumbled on it and am now obsessed with getting into it...:mrgreen:..Building scale gates, bridges, podiums...especially here in WI where we've got rivers, asphalt, woods and gravel within yards of each other..now to order my DF-03 and program the lap timer function on my radio..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN9F2cjNDQ

SubaruDriftBoy 05-06-2011 08:09 AM

that was a well made video, the only problem i see is if i did that, id probably trip over my own rc running after it.. but it looks like it can be an addictingly fun time!

nascarkeith 05-06-2011 08:53 AM

Looks like a lot of work chasing the car. I have been thinking of building a rally car to run in the yard or maybe at the track on practice days. The Jang over at Ultimate RC built a pretty cool one out of Exceed stuff. That might be a good way to go cheap.

Ramination 05-06-2011 09:22 AM

Looks awesome, Only thing I think it needs is more/bigger jumps! :mrgreen:

johnnyh66 05-06-2011 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruDriftBoy (Post 3079353)
that was a well made video, the only problem i see is if i did that, id probably trip over my own rc running after it.. but it looks like it can be an addictingly fun time!

It would really suck if you stepped on some one else's!
This does look really fun, I saw a video a few months ago that was shot somewhere in Europe... excellent stuff.

ROLANDROCKSHOP 05-06-2011 12:01 PM

oh yeah the monkeyracing videos rock!!"thumbsup"

DrunkDriver 05-06-2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyh66 (Post 3079490)
It would really suck if you stepped on some one else's!
This does look really fun, I saw a video a few months ago that was shot somewhere in Europe... excellent stuff.

Most of this video comes from a Rally club in Brno, Czech Republic. I almost made it to a race there last year while I was living in a suburb of Brno.

All I have to say is that they do some really cool stuff, and it gets published into the local RC magazine. Scaling is also pretty big there too. The hobby shop I went to there had lots of Rally/Drift stuff.

This is the main website:

http://www.rallybrno.cz/

"thumbsup"

the_ghetto_rig 05-06-2011 02:50 PM

OHBOYOHBOYOHBOY!

I pick this sweet thing up tomorrow...can't WAIT to cover her in mud...

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...aintegrale.jpg


Those monkeyracing videos do rock..I've been watching them over and over, finding new detail and action each time...
I'd love to get together with some folks locally for an event like this, but the best part of rally is that it's still just you and course...

neillarson 05-06-2011 04:54 PM

Her is mine. We are just getting going in northern Illinois.


http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/u...y/DSC_1399.jpg

Check the Illinois section for more info.

FoxintheDen 05-09-2011 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_ghetto_rig (Post 3079976)
OHBOYOHBOYOHBOY!

I pick this sweet thing up tomorrow...can't WAIT to cover her in mud...

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...aintegrale.jpg


Those monkeyracing videos do rock..I've been watching them over and over, finding new detail and action each time...
I'd love to get together with some folks locally for an event like this, but the best part of rally is that it's still just you and course...

Killer rig Pete! I can't wait to see it in action!!!

Grumpster1980 05-09-2011 11:59 AM

The problem is no one RC rally races anymore :( I did the same thing as you did, saw the amazing scale videos and bought a few Rally cars now they sit and collect dust :( No one in my area is interested in it.


Here is what is in my garage

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/zycor..._240Z001_7.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/zycore/Lancidelta10.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/zycore/Tamiya_Alpine.jpg

FoxintheDen 05-09-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpster1980 (Post 3084464)
The problem is no one RC rally races anymore :( I did the same thing as you did, saw the amazing scale videos and bought a few Rally cars now they sit and collect dust :( No one in my area is interested in it.


Here is what is in my garage

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/zycor..._240Z001_7.JPG



Wow, that datson is awesome!

the_ghetto_rig 05-10-2011 07:15 PM

Ok..just wired up an 8-cell for the DF03 and this baby SCREAMS.. I took it to the hard dirt in my parking lot and man, it just powerslides smoothly thru the turns, kickin up roost 'n' rocks...Traxxas can keep its Fiesta, this thing is rally..Better vid up tomorrow..(I had to delete the previous one ..it was just TOO crappy..)

M109R 05-11-2011 01:00 PM

Thats awesome! I've been into r/c racing for about 12 years now and never knew they did r/c Rallys. I was talking to a friend about that not long ago. He was looking at the Ken Block Fiesta...I told him they'd be awesome if they raced them around our area...thats just killer. Only downside- I think it would be tough trying to operate your car while chasing it...then what if someone faster comes to pass you? I'm fat, so I'll stick to crawling lmao.

the_ghetto_rig 05-11-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M109R (Post 3088222)
...then what if someone faster comes to pass you?

I think they run solo time trials, just like crawling comps, so I don't think there's any passing, tho a full-contact rally raid would be fun too..

I got out to a local park today that has LOTS of terrain changes, "scale" trails and obstacles..I had too much fun to get any video done..


But I was able to get started on some scale track barriers...I ran over 'em a couple times, so they got a bit banged up :mrgreen:...I've got material to do a bunch of 1-3ft sections..

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1952.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1953.jpg

FoxintheDen 05-11-2011 06:44 PM

[QUOTE tho a full-contact rally raid would be fun too..

I've got material to do a bunch of 1-3ft sections..

[/QUOTE]

Sign me up for a full-contact rally raid! That would be a good time!:razz:

And amazing barricades! Those looks awesome, and so do the white rims also!"thumbsup"

the_ghetto_rig 05-11-2011 08:50 PM

Thanx Jason..LMK and I'll whip you up some "Fox" barricades for your cup racers..."thumbsup".Seriously tho, you GOTTA get one of these..I was spewing rooster tails all afternoon..this heavy sucker just digs right in..Oh, DF03, where have you been all my life! :lmao:

FoxintheDen 05-11-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_ghetto_rig (Post 3088985)
Thanx Jason..LMK and I'll whip you up some "Fox" barricades for your cup racers..."thumbsup".Seriously tho, you GOTTA get one of these..I was spewing rooster tails all afternoon..this heavy sucker just digs right in..Oh, DF03, where have you been all my life! :lmao:

Alright you got me hooked! I'm going to sell a few things and get my hands on one of these. It seems like it's a great fit for what I want to do and what I like.

If you get some free time I can pitch in for the barricades "thumbsup"

I'll start my search for one tonight! Man my wife is going to love me on this one lol :lmao:

TURTLE 05-11-2011 10:40 PM

Barricades look pretty good, what are they made out of?

the_ghetto_rig 05-12-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURTLE (Post 3089172)
Barricades look pretty good, what are they made out of?

thanx turtle! I work for a garage door company, and those are the drop pieces from when I cut struts..

those are just the prototype, the next batch will look better and get some distressing and mud-spatter...

Now I'm collecting wood scrap for some scale bridges :shock::mrgreen:

@Jason: I'm gonna make a crap-load of obstacles, so you don't need to pitch in at all....but you gotta come over here to enjoy them ;-)

Grumpster1980 05-12-2011 11:16 AM

I have been a Rally racing fan since the late 70's "thumbsup" They do time trial runs where they stagger the cars and the fastest time wins. The kicker is if there are more than one round, the winner moves to the front of the starting line and that is a bad thing. The dirt and rocks make the rally cars slip and slid and when you do that you ae going slower so it's better to run 2nd or 3rd when the course has been cleaned by the first cars tyres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvtFV...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQXiU...eature=related

FoxintheDen 05-12-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_ghetto_rig (Post 3089714)
@Jason: I'm gonna make a crap-load of obstacles, so you don't need to pitch in at all....but you gotta come over here to enjoy them ;-)

DEAL lol, count me in! I'm working on a df-03 now!

the_ghetto_rig 05-14-2011 06:45 PM

Scale wooden bridge..
 
I'm trying to design a scale wood bridge for my modular rally course but would like some input...
Here's the model I'm working from:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ood_bridge.jpg

I want it to be a "tabletop" that you hit the entry ramp at, say, 3/4 speed and catch a little air... but if you hit it too fast, you hit the exit ramp before you are leveled out and WHAMMO!, you're off for repairs..

So with this in mind I am planning (with foxintheden's input, thanx man!) to build it a car length (15") wide, with the entry ramp 15" long, the tabletop 30" long, and the exit ramp 15" long...Do these numbers sound solid?

BTW: I am geared low and volted up so acceleration is dialed :mrgreen:..

Any input is appreciated!

monkeyracing.cz 05-17-2011 04:54 AM

Hi guys! Thanks for watching and commenting our videos. "thumbsup"

For more info about this class in english there is dedicated thread on rctech ...

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...r-c-rally.html

the_ghetto_rig 05-22-2011 11:41 AM

Just finished the bridge..now to prep it for painting..

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1984.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1985.jpg

It's modular:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1986.jpg

The brains of this operation:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1982.jpg

the_ghetto_rig 05-22-2011 12:34 PM

And here's a quick vid I took last week, and some pics of the course barriers so far:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...h_100_1962.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1969.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1970.jpg

Grumpster1980 05-23-2011 05:49 PM

That is awesome! man I need a place like that. I go to the park and they wont take kindly to me making a track.....

Do you have any problems with rocks jamming up your steering? where I run the rocks are murder on my rally cars.

the_ghetto_rig 05-23-2011 07:41 PM

@Grumpster1980:

It's a pretty small park, and the trails I use are behind it in a wooded area..the trails make a sort of long figure 8 track (maybe 30-40 yards long) and at the end of one side is a great FOFF-style dirt hill :mrgreen:
My df03 tears right up it, but with exposed roots in a couple spots it is actually pretty technical..Man, I really need a camera mounted to the front of my radio so I can show you guys..

And yes, the rocks in my steering linkage have been a pain,, but after cutting up some 3/4" heat shrink tube and shoe-gooing it on two sides to my chassis, I've got flexible rock-guard flaps!"thumbsup"..gonna test 'em out tomorrow:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1987.jpg

Grumpster1980 05-24-2011 12:27 PM

Tamiya used to sell a buggy body for the DF-03 I think it is called the Dark Impact and it covered the steering and body and kept the drit/rocks out, It is no longer being made and can not be found anyhwere! I have tried different ways but the rocks keep getting in the steering linkage. Now my servo is getting damaged :x before I put a new servo in I need to find a solution for it.

**EDIT*** Tamiya is making them again! Woot! Just ordered mine! $20.00

https://www.tamiyausa.com/product/it...uct-id=0555108

the_ghetto_rig 05-24-2011 03:37 PM

yeah, I just picked up a barely used DF-03 Avante Mk.II to use as a parts car and it had a perfect over-tray body on it...but I've already got one built out of lexan and panty-hose..it's real ghetto but its also both splashproof and ventilated...

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1988.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_1989.jpg

Grumpster1980 05-24-2011 07:59 PM

can you show what the dark impact body looks like on the DF-03ra? does it cover the steering linkage? Thanks.

the_ghetto_rig 06-12-2011 02:10 PM

Got some updates on the df03..just put in:
  • Castle Sidewinder SCT ESC w/ 12v fan
  • 3S 3800 LiPo
  • 19t Reedy Quad motor
Geared at 26/78, this thing rips! I was unsure if the SCT could handle a 19t on 3S, but after about 5 mins of full throttle gravel-flingin', it was barely warm..same after another 5 mins. I was gonna go with a 10t brushless, but that might be overkill (plus it wont look very scale if its THAT fast)..Got out the trusty can of "sandstone" textured spraypaint to give it that "already been at it for a couple of stages" look :mrgreen:..Now I'm just lookin for some aluminum wheels, but I can't find anything authentic looking..

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_2005.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/100_2007.jpg

rckjeep 06-12-2011 02:59 PM

That was an awesome video, I'm going to have to dust off my HPI RS4 Rally. Though it needs a new body. I think in our new place with big yard I'll build a rally course before we clean out the yard.

Big Daddy 06-18-2011 02:16 PM

I just got out my RS4 rally and put the rally shocks back just for a little extra clearance. It handles soo bad compared to the aluminum shock set up I had for touring racing. But after ten years in the attic she still works pretty good. Of course doing that is what got me looking around and a few weeks later I am the proud new owner of a Honcho.

the_ghetto_rig 06-18-2011 04:57 PM

Just put in a 3900kv brushless and melted 2 rear diffs in 2 days!! :evil::evil::evil:

I forgot how much torque that motor has :oops:...so now until my new diffs get here from Japan, I've got one of the melted diffs locked, fabbed up a slipper clutch (I aint payin $35 bucks for one if I can make one out of washers and 400gr sandpaper!), and concaved my throttle profile (Thanx Castle Link!)..lets see how long this set-up lasts :roll:

FoxintheDen 07-01-2011 07:28 AM

Well my new rally rigs are here and set up! What ya think?
Stock body:
http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSC02272.jpg

After market CF Ford rs200:
http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSC02261.jpg

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSC02260.jpg

the_ghetto_rig 07-01-2011 05:56 PM

Jason, the light pods MAKE that rig! Hit it with some of that spray-snow crap people put on their windows and it'll look like a sweet ice-racer ..oh yeah, I'm friggin jelly :flipoff:!

squatch71 07-02-2011 12:38 AM

That bridge is bad a$$. I converted a 4WD onroad to a rally car, waiting on a subaru body from a Metalhead. Really cool cars. Any of you lock the rear axles for a posi rear end??? Have noticed that when turning the car leans and lifts up one side and that tire just kicks dirt, thought if it was posi it would grip better.

the_ghetto_rig 07-02-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squatch71 (Post 3168574)
That bridge is bad a$$.

Thanx! It's a pretty fun challenge with it being as narrow as it is..

Quote:

Originally Posted by squatch71 (Post 3168574)
Any of you lock the rear axles for a posi rear end??

I do, but not by choice...I have fried 4 rear ball diffs in 2 months:evil::evil::evil:, so now I've got the rear locked up (with one of the bad ones) until I can figure out what the hell is going wrong..It takes 2 weeks to get 'em from Hong Kong and I've only got one good one left..

I think I was running the diff too loose, and the gear (under load) would rub the balls across both plates (rather than spinning between them...The stock DF03 has no slipper clutch, so that's another problem...so now I've fabbed my own with washers, slipper clutch paper from a Savage, and fuel tubing. It works pretty well so far, and is just as adjustable as the $30 one with a spring "thumbsup". I'll get all the bugs worked out before putting in my last good gear..

On the plus side, I threw on some Tamiya Driftech tires, and on 3s lipo with a Titan 21T and locked rear this thing is a smooth drifter!

Quote:

Originally Posted by squatch71 (Post 3168574)
thought if it was posi it would grip better.

It does..but there is TONS of oversteer in certain conditions (running rubber on asphalt)...but with rally blocks on loose or packed dirt, or with ABS on asphalt, it drifts thru turns like a dream..

It still pushes a little thru the turns, but If I throttle it right I can compensate..it might be something I just have to get used to and work into my driving style, like clod-stall...

the_ghetto_rig 07-02-2011 07:28 PM

Well, I just battle-tested my homebrew slipper-clutch, and even in extreme conditions and with a locked rear diff, there were no failures..just a lot of oversteer on loose material..now off to the parts washer so I can check the internals:mrgreen::

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l.../muddydf03.jpg


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