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Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Ok so I posted some pics of my version of a slash 4x4 rally car a while back and was asked by a couple of members to do a build thread. I'm not big on creating build threads it's not that I don't like them I actually read a lot of them on here and on other forums it's just I would rather read someone else's than make one. Never the less I will quite babbling and show you the build. Purpose of Build: The purpose was to build a fun scale looking rally car that I can bash on 3s and not care if I tore it up. Rough time frame to build conversion is 1 1/2hrs. All I used was a bench grinder and a dremel. The build started as a box of parts for a slash 4x4. Much like Traxxas I find a lot of things I can make out of one platform. I really don't think there isn't a type of vehicle I haven't made one into. I bought the Kyosho DRX clear mitsu body and a set of Kyosho wheels and tires and bolted them on. Trouble was the DRX body is obviously not as wide as the slash. This is what I ended up with picture below. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...45-56_2301.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...-42-21_836.jpg So how do we fix this you ask? WE CUT!!! First I eye balled how much to cut off the rear A-arm and ground it down to my desired length and got out my trusty drill and drilled an new hole for the rear hub carrier pin. Since I really wasn't going to be showing this off (I guess until now) I didn't make everything look all pretty my main concern was functionality. below is a comparison of a stock A-arm and the shortened one that I made. Sorry I don't have a measurement of how much I cut off. Honestly it's all in what you are putting on for wheels. Mine are a little shorter so that if I change a body or wheels I can use different hex hubs to adjust the wheels backspacing. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...comparison.jpg Then came the axles http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...comparison.jpg Here is a pic of the rear completed. For the links I just cut down the rears a little so that I could turn them in far enough. On the fronts I was able to just turn them in and not have to cut anything. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...earbodyoff.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...driveshaft.jpg Same thing in the front. Cut the A-arms once I got my desired length I cut the axles. The front didn't require me to cut the links I was able to jsut turn them in. You do need to grind or cut off the top mounting hole on the c hub though to clear the wheel. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...driveshaft.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...comparison.jpg Next came the body posts. These in the pics are actually for the new body I just got and not the original mitsu body. The concept is still the same. For the front I used an aluminum servo plate I had made for a scx10 project and and a traxxas body post mount from a slash 2wd i think. The body posts were ground down to near flush and then screwed to the body post. I am a huge believer that if you buy a RTR painted body then you need to make new body posts to line up if your stock ones don't. I can't stand seeing extra holes in a body. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ntbodypost.jpg The rear body posts were from the same traxxas body post package. To get the height I needed I used a small piece of aluminum and bent it to a 90 degree angle (sorta I basically used a pair of pliers and prayed that it was good enough when I was done..lol). Yes they aren't the sturdiest but I am actually going to make new ones out of xo-1 or summit body posts. Something a lot stronger. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...arbodypost.jpg I have a basic set up in it for electronics (really stuff just laying on my shelf that needed a home). I used one of the newer version castle sidewinder esc's and tacon 3500kv motor with stock traxxas servo. I only run it on 3s and beat the crap out of it!! Oh and a modified proline undertray. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...hunderbody.jpg So here is what she looked like with the original body. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...6_523-Copy.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...5-19_714-1.jpg And here is what she looks like now with the new body and wheels. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r1/sidetop.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r1/subside.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ver1/front.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...arwithbody.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...er1/front2.jpg |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Nice! "thumbsup" Better representation of a Rally car than their (Traxxas) new offering! |
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Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion very nice setup. thanks for the build thread. time for me to get to work.. "thumbsup" |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Awesome modification/transformation of the Slash 4x4 into a Rally beast! |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Looks real good |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Thanks everyone for the kind words. I'm glad I could share another perspective of making a rally car out of spare parts. Don't get me wrong I will be buying a DRX (had to get the ken block wr8 first though) but didn't see the need to right now because this build serves it's purpose x10. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Wow sure as hell looks better than my Slash 4x4 conversion!! Although I wanted an 1/8 not a 1/10 http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/a...C/PA140008.jpg |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion alexchan86 how can you consider that 1/8th scale? You didn't change the dimensions of the vehicle. You simply mounted a body made for 1/8 scale onto a 1/10 vehicle (which we all know that isn't correct size if you do the math). That would be like me mounting a 1/5 scale body on my stock wheelbase slash and saying its a 1/5 scale vehicle. Either way everybody is entitled to their own opinion of how they determine scale sizes. This is way bigger than my HPI WR8 and it's also considered 1/10 scale. Nice car.. I looked at bodies like yours and found a place overseas were you can get ones just like this but really was drawn to the scale look and dimensions of the Kyosho body. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Hi Matgyver -- thanks so much for posting this thread! I have a question for you. Did you try to switch to Slash 2wd rear arms to narrow the track? I'm just wondering if that would have narrowed things up without having to modify the 4x4 arms? Thanks, Steve |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Nope didn't even look at any other option because I had 2 sets of the 4x4 arms from other builds. Generally I wouldn't even use the stock arms because they are very fragile but because I was reducing the overall length the "blocky" style was perfect. I would have probably used RPM ones but they didn't have straight edges were I needed to drill holes. Honestly I think since traxxas uses these on multiple cars now they should just give you an extra set when you buy the car. hehe |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion So it looks like the wheel base works stock? |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion For the most part. The body is a little shorter but I was able to trim out the rear wheel wells to get it to match up for the most part. It really depends on the body also. I think the subaru body fits it a lot better than the mitsu body did though. Not that the dimensions of the wheelbase are different on either one it really has to do with the styling of the body and the wheel well openings. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Sweet conversion! I'm looking into converting my MERV into a rally car. Only body I've found so far is the proline (in 1/16th)... not sure about tires/wheels either (yet!) Cheers, T |
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Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Thanks Matgyver! My fab skills are woefully inadequate... We'll see what happens this winter when I build a D90 kit. I have become quite adept at tearing down, fixing and rebuilding my Ridgecrest. Cheers, T |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion what is the new width of your front end? hex to hex? |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion I will have to get that for you. I will try to post it tomorrow. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Here's a quick video of the car. Found a cool place that I can drift and hill climb at! lol <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aRNERQP1rSA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion nice! subbed your channel also speedwiegands dog? |
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LOL good observation!!! He's getting famous maybe we should just start making vid's of him. hehe |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Here is some better pics of the finished conversion before I destroy the body. lol http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...131941_779.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...131932_721.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...131925_340.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...131951_455.jpg |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Just an FYI if anyone is interested in this vehicle I will be posting it for sale on RC tech soon......If you are interested you can PM me with any questions. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Just curious if you were able to get the front hex to hex measurement? |
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9" hex to hex |
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Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion How do you think the Fiesta body would fit on it? I ordered the new rally friday but im considering returning it and getting a roller and doing what you did. |
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Do you already have a slash 4x4? If it was me I would actually order the RTR and sell the body, wheels, and radio because the "rollers" that are on ebay are way to much right now. I did the math and if you have the capability to sell the other parts then It makes more sense to buy the RTR. The Fiesta body looks like it would fit fine with a little trimming around the rear wheel wells. Actually I might order a clear fiesta body and do something different on it. If I had money to throw away I would have my buddy custom paint it to look just like the RTR body on a new traxxas 1/10 rally and send some pics to traxxas "attention design department". |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Thanks so such for this 'how-to' thread. I've always wanted some type of go-fast rig but the Slash 4x4 I had last year just didn't do it for me. I'll find another Slash and do a Rally conversion to it, it should provide the durability that I want along w/ easy to find ( and inexpensive) replacement parts that will be needed to fix crash damage. "thumbsup" |
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No Slash, Still havent decided what i wanna do. Its just the body that is sooo ugly to me. If i keep it I was planning on selling the RX/TX. I got the green because i wanted to do a ken block fiesta paint like the HPI but bigger. And because of tower ezpay otherwise i would have got the DRX. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Duude why you selling it ? Have seen this rig in person and it is amazing, do want. |
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I was kicking around the idea of getting the new traxxas 1/10 rally. Sell the wheels/Tires and burning the body in protest and posting it on you tube. I just want to see how well the lcg handles. Doubt it will be ground breaking difference considering the environment I drive these in. I would still cut the arms and use a Kyosho body though. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Although the Traxxas is bigger. I think it is a good competitor against the DRX. The Traxxas has a real nice layout. Very nice design. It turns like no other. It throws it's weight around like a rag doll. It has good suspension. It just needs a makeover that's all. And tires, tires, tires. Always need tires. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Speaking of tires for a while I have been in search of just a little more traction for this vehicle. I have ordered probably about 3 sets of tires to try and run on this car and still look kinda scale but couldn't find anything I liked. Keep in mind I wanted to use the kyosho wheel because of of the styling. With that in mind this is what I came up with. Having 2 basically new sets of the super soft style kyosho tires I decided to cut the tread patterns to allow for more bite in the looser dirt. Below is a comparison of the stock and cut version. They look and feel like they are going to do exactly what I want but unfortunately it has been raining here for 5 days and it will have to wait until the weekend for me to test them out. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/.../rccrawler.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...rccrawler2.jpg |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion My cuz just texted me. Mine is @ my Uncles house. Still undecided on if I should keep it or not lol. Havent even completed the Brushless System in my Exo yet smh. Thinkin about stripping Rally of electronics throwing them in exo and run it like that for now. Then strip rally and sell tx/rx, Bodies, shocks, wheel & tires. And follow your rally car method. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Yeah those tires look real good. Let us know what you find out and how many packs until worn. |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion How did you fit the kyosho wheels? I thought they were 14mm hex and the traxxas are 12mm? |
Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion This new bumper from JConcepts should work nice for this conversion. JConcepts IFMAR World Champion, Illuzion R/C bodies, tires and accessories- Press - Details |
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Re: Slash 4x4 Rally Conversion Ok quick update. I was able to put multiple 3s packs through it over the weekend and the tires held up very well. I ran 4 packs total so far on various surfaces and can't believe the difference in traction. I'm sold on this mod and will be doing it to the other set of tires I have on white wheels. Here's some pics and vid of the day. http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...244404_929.jpg http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...244630_255.jpg Rear Tire http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...244602_363.jpg Front Tire http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...244616_784.jpg <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/W2qdSk9fp0g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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