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beetlebz · 03-13-2005, 11:02 PM

first off, is anyone here running different tooth pinions front and rear on their clods? the rock crawling craze has hit my LHS, and a couple of the guys are saying they will be running 9t up front and 10t in the back so the front grabs first. sounds dumb to me, but is there any merrit at all to this?

next, in what situations would you need new motor mounts? i plan on running 9t pinions front and back to start, is it at all necessary?

i think lastly... which rims will the BFTs fit on? i dont care if i have to narrow rims, as long as they will fit the tire when im done

if the clod rims wont work, where can i find wheel adapters to fit the BFT rims?

rockclod · 03-14-2005, 05:53 AM

youll have to run the same pinions in both ends. the lesser you go the slower the wheels will spin . you dont want the front and rears spinning at different speeds. thundertech has adjustable mounts for running smaller pinions. or you can run a reduction unit which is the way to go if you want to crawl.

bRIBEGuy · 03-14-2005, 07:46 AM

While I personaly perscribe to Rockclod's logic, there are lots of guys who are mixing up their pinions front & rear.

I think the idea is to put the smaller pinion in the rear, however, as it would lessen the load on the motor, and as such decrease axle-stall.

SR5Dave · 03-14-2005, 11:25 AM

Search!!!

This topic has been covered MANY MANY MANY Times and there are DOZENS of pages of information.

kwj48 · 03-14-2005, 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=rockclod]youll have to run the same pinions in both ends. QUOTE]

On clods it does'nt matter I run 11 in the front and 9 in the rear. It's not a 1:1 truck.

SiameseDog · 03-14-2005, 03:27 PM

wqhat i runn is a 10 tooth pioion in the fronmt and a 9 tooth pinion in the rear. this way the weight transfered to the rear will not stall the motor out.

Grizzly4x4 · 03-14-2005, 05:25 PM

Please read:

Let's talk about the axle stall!!!

Anyone solve THE clod problem?

Grizzly4x4 · 03-14-2005, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beetlebz

first off, is anyone here running different tooth pinions front and rear on their clods? the rock crawling craze has hit my LHS, and a couple of the guys are saying they will be running 9t up front and 10t in the back so the front grabs first. sounds dumb to me, but is there any merrit at all to this?

Dumb?

OK.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beetlebz

next, in what situations would you need new motor mounts? i plan on running 9t pinions front and back to start, is it at all necessary?

you do not "need" motor mounts to run 9T pinions. You can just leave out the brass tubes for the motor screws and should be able to mesh up the gears.

Adjustable motor mounts are the best way to go though, please support the vendors on this site if you can.

Send a PM to "Toyofast" or "Russell" to find out about the Centipede Engineering adjustable mounts.
http://www.monstertruckparts.com.au/components1.htm

Send a PM to "Blade" or email him from the website to find out about the ClodMod Racing adjustable mounts.
http://www.rcbackyard.com/

I use the ClodMod's and like them better than my Thundertech ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beetlebz

i think lastly... which rims will the BFTs fit on? i dont care if i have to narrow rims, as long as they will fit the tire when im done

if the clod rims wont work, where can i find wheel adapters to fit the BFT rims?

BFT's will fit any standard Maxx, Savage, MGT, LST rim diameter.
Mount up maxx wheels with these adapters from HeydCo.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4813

Mount up BFT's to clod or TXT wheels with these from RC Alloys.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4848
http://www.rcalloys.com/pricelist/pricelisttxt.html

Mount up BFT's to TXT wheels with rock rings from DPFab. Send a PM to "rckjeep"
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showt...5&page=1&pp=10

beetlebz · 03-14-2005, 08:05 PM

ahhhh I see. I was told running different pinions was for an entirely different reason. I couldnt find anything by searching because i didnt know what i was searching for

very helpful, very informative. the guys talking about having one axle or the other break traction got me thinking. im going to do some more clod, and more shaft truck research before I drop the dough on the clod

thanks for that grizz!

Grizzly4x4 · 03-15-2005, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beetlebz

ahhhh I see. I was told running different pinions was for an entirely different reason. I couldnt find anything by searching because i didnt know what i was searching for

very helpful, very informative. the guys talking about having one axle or the other break traction got me thinking. im going to do some more clod, and more shaft truck research before I drop the dough on the clod

thanks for that grizz!

Running mixed pinions is to help keep the front axle spin to a minimum. Lower gears are for helping prevent axle stall, which I categorize with the front axle spin.
I was going to tell you to seach but then I realized that you prolly didn't know what to search for.

Clod or shafty is always the debate, do your research and decide what fits your desires. But Clods will always rule.

03-13-2005, 11:02 PM	#1
beetlebz Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 21	a couple noob questions.. first off, is anyone here running different tooth pinions front and rear on their clods? the rock crawling craze has hit my LHS, and a couple of the guys are saying they will be running 9t up front and 10t in the back so the front grabs first. sounds dumb to me, but is there any merrit at all to this? next, in what situations would you need new motor mounts? i plan on running 9t pinions front and back to start, is it at all necessary? i think lastly... which rims will the BFTs fit on? i dont care if i have to narrow rims, as long as they will fit the tire when im done if the clod rims wont work, where can i find wheel adapters to fit the BFT rims?

03-14-2005, 05:53 AM	#2
rockclod Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 12	youll have to run the same pinions in both ends. the lesser you go the slower the wheels will spin . you dont want the front and rears spinning at different speeds. thundertech has adjustable mounts for running smaller pinions. or you can run a reduction unit which is the way to go if you want to crawl.

03-14-2005, 07:46 AM	#3
bRIBEGuy Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2004 Location: Calgary Posts: 807	While I personaly perscribe to Rockclod's logic, there are lots of guys who are mixing up their pinions front & rear. I think the idea is to put the smaller pinion in the rear, however, as it would lessen the load on the motor, and as such decrease axle-stall.

03-14-2005, 11:25 AM	#4
SR5Dave I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 2,399	Search!!! This topic has been covered MANY MANY MANY Times and there are DOZENS of pages of information.

03-14-2005, 02:05 PM	#5
kwj48 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Richmond,VA Posts: 138	[QUOTE=rockclod]youll have to run the same pinions in both ends. QUOTE] On clods it does'nt matter I run 11 in the front and 9 in the rear. It's not a 1:1 truck.

03-14-2005, 03:27 PM	#6
SiameseDog Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 167	wqhat i runn is a 10 tooth pioion in the fronmt and a 9 tooth pinion in the rear. this way the weight transfered to the rear will not stall the motor out.

03-14-2005, 05:25 PM	#7
Grizzly4x4 PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler Posts: 13,137	Please read: Let's talk about the axle stall!!! Anyone solve THE clod problem?

03-14-2005, 08:05 PM	#9
beetlebz Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 21	ahhhh I see. I was told running different pinions was for an entirely different reason. I couldnt find anything by searching because i didnt know what i was searching for very helpful, very informative. the guys talking about having one axle or the other break traction got me thinking. im going to do some more clod, and more shaft truck research before I drop the dough on the clod thanks for that grizz!

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